Everyone who played Day-Z mod or Mount and Blade can tell the difference betwen 1ps 3ps. 3ps is basically cheating. You can peek around corners or lower walls without fear of detection (sneaking difficulty just dropped down to zero). you can see man hidden in grass because of different perspective, in combat you see even what’s behind you.
In 3ps you have to solve camera collisions and expect player to see things from completely different perspective. (more detailed roof textures I guess)
Exactly! It is single player so no one is affected by how others are playing the game. Why then not allow each one to customize the playing stile according to personal preference? I will for sure try this in 1st person although I normally prefer 3rd person and I would like the possibility to change.
Because of this omg…
Game view just matters to game design. Why so many people can’t understand it? I’m sure it’s not first nor last time I had to wrote it.
I will still play the game if it remains 1st person only, but I would really prefer the option to play in 3rd person. I may be wrong, but I can’t imagine it being that big of a development cost in terms of time or resources to implement 3rd person. Textures, animations and whatnot should already be there given the simple fact that you can already see NPCs performing any possible action that your character could perform, and probably wearing anything that your character might wear.
You didn’t read even post above yours did you…
In Kingdom Come the combat system is designed for 1st-person. People seem to forget that when they’re demanding 3rd-person. It can’t just be switched, the controls and movement would be fucked up completely.
This means: it’s easier said than done!
Yeah, well, they denied it multiple times already.
I think and I hope they won’t change all combat related stuff just for a bunch of people because this means tons of extra work. The other thing is, they said before that there is no 3rd-person most of the time, so when making the deal people can’t complain they didn’t know beforehand or were cheated or something.
more about my opinion regarding 3rd -person here:
Oh I read it, I just rejected your premise.
More like ignored ignored completely…
Warhorse, when you open shop PLEASE add a stretch goal to add 3rd person, 1 person is “horrible” to me and so many others.
I respect that some prefer 1 person and feel its better and gives more immersion but not to me, not to all of us. 1 Person just doesn’t do it for me, I don’t feel more immersion at all, to be honest I feel less immersion. When gaming I can’t use all my senses, I don’t have a feeling of height, body, awareness, etc like in real life, and that’s what I get with 3rd person.
Maybe someday with new technologies (VR glasses + camera like Kinect + etc) things change, but right now 1 person just doesn’t do it.
Please consider this, thanks.
Note: to all the people “hating”, this game is not mp and more important, I’m not trying to remove or change 1 person, just trying to add something I like more.
I believe you’re not going to see a 3rd person option unless they significantly change things about the combat system.
It’s not hating, it’s being realistic.
I really like first person, just look at the mechanics behind this technology:
In this type of first person you can’t see your body… In Kingdom Come is proper first person. You can see everything from shoulders to toes. (or verything in reflection I guess) 
Short version: it’s called Full Body Awareness
In Half-Life 2 you just have arms. 
Maybe this pic is about HL2?
But there was no AK in the game.
For combat all they need to do is move the camera to the back of the player, kinda like aiming in 3 person shooters.
But I’m not worrying about that, they are developers, I’m pretty sure they can figure out several impressive ways in how to include this option.
Warhorse, please? As a stretch goal?
Note: regarding the cameras they’ve showed so far I’m not impressed at all, and I don’t think I’m gonna like them more. Just look at how horse riding looks, what a waste of awesome animations/looks/etc…
EDIT: My opinion is as good as others opinions, same value and same importance, no more, no less. Stretch goals are created to include new things, that’s the point of stretch goals.
There’s no point discussing with you guys because:
-I’m not trying to remove 1 person or make it worst
-You aren’t going to convince me
-I’m not going to convince you
So don’t waste your time with me, I will do the same. My message is directed to Warhorse and to all 3 person fans.
Warhorse, please consider this request, since the minute I’ve seen your game that I felt for it, but one thing is missing. 3 Person for all of us that love it, please try to add a stretch goal for it, I will gladly help you with my money, and so will others.
Thanks!
Warhorse, please? Do NOT add 3rd person as a stretch goal. Stay focused on designing the game the way you want it designed without the pressure of adding anything else in that might delay the release of the game.
Exactly!
Please refrain from “popular” stretch goals which weren’t part of your vision.
@BlackRL
Want to play a 3rd-p RPG? No problem, there are plenty out there. But good 1st-p RPGs are very scarce, so just leave this game alone. Go and play your run-of-the-mill games. We don’t need your “opinion” which is basically just a negative attitude, you don’t need to be impressed and we don’t need you to like it. We need people who support the game!
Also, they certainly don’t just “need to move the camera to the back of the player”. It’s obvious you didn’t read the thread or watched the videos. It’s 1st-p for a reason, look it up.
You clearly have no clue how a game is being developed!
Are you sure you aren’t blackdreamhunk by any chance?
[quote=“Kickstarter”]
Do you plan to implement 3rd person view?
We are sorry, but we do not plan to allow you to control your character in 3rd person view (TPV). You will be able to see your character e.g. in cutscenes, dialogues or in the inventory screen, you can also see your body and hands all the time. We believe that FPV allows for better immersion in the world; we also think that we can make the FPV combat work. Moreover the many of the systems, including combat, are designed with FPV in mind and wouldn’t work in TPV without a major redesign.[/quote]
You couldn’t be arsed to read the FAQ, could you, but hey, why don’t you just demand some random stuff instead. And, of course, just because you’re willing to spend 20 € they should bow before you.
Lol I just don’t understand the vehement hatred all you No 3rd Person Whatsoever people have. I get you want it in first person, that’s fine, but…shesh - these people are just politely (usually) asking Warhorse to reconsider not implementing a 3rd person. Personally, I’m fine if there’s no 3rd person, I just don’t understand the utter hatred being expressed about 3rd person. Oh well I guess that’s the internet.
I don’t mind people wishing for it.
I do mind people who don’t seem to understand it’s not as simple as just moving the camera back from a game that’s built around the first person setup.
I do mind people who forget that adding a completely different way of playing the game would likely delay its release date.
I do mind people who don’t take the time to read past threads to see why Warhorse is not considering a third person view.
I do mind people not respecting that this is the way Warhorse is choosing to make their game.
The 3rd person is already implemented in game , we have seen even some Devs play with it to demnstrate featurers.
To negate it its like putting the head in the sand and pretend to not have seen it .
@Cerberus
A lot of People want 3rd person for different reasons , most for nausea others for vanity , This wouln’t stop thers to play in first person if they want as most do in Skyrim .
To forbid with such an hate other people to be able to play the game and even exhort them to leave the forums, the game and stop asking for that feature is pretty unpolite and rude and you might be a King supporter and me just a peasant , but that doesn’t meanthe game is yours anyouhave the what to do .
