For me, the #GamerGame will always be about hysteria and extreme emotions on both sides. Nothing game changing, only huge flamewar on the twitter and other social media. It is really not about corrupted game journalism or whatever the claims are. It is about feisty gamers on one side and hysterical activists on the other. Not much reasoning at all. The Intel thing is just cherry on the top of the pie, which proves how stupid this whole thing is.
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Well, Iâll try, but thatâs somewhat more subjective. I mean, like Danielâs team & their game just getting blacklisted, thatâs news that just happened this morning. Should I not post stuff like that? Because Iâd think most here would want to know. Iâm not trying to be sarcastic at all, I just want to bring up things related to #Gamergate, because Daniel clearly cares about the issue & shouldnât the fans of his game know as well? :-/
I didnât say you shouldnât post it. But why not using the threads which are already there? 
As about the game being âblacklistedâ, thatâs just speculation so far. There seems to be a lack of coverage of the latest update on major US gaming sites indeed but that could also have other reasons. I think âblacklistedâ is a way too political term for that without at least having solid proof for it being politically motivated.
But if you ask me, itâs Dan himself who is at least in parts responsible for that (if itâs really the case that major sites refused to publish news about Kingdom Come on purpose). He obviously doesnât seperate his personal opinion from the game he and his company are making which isnât the most clever thing he could have come up with. Itâs one thing to have a certain point of view on topics but a completely different thing how you do proper PR as a company. What Dan does here (e.g. by wearing this shirt in the video) is actually very bad PR because he mixes up his personal (political) opinion with facts about the product his company is making. It seems very childish to me and clearly not âprofessionalâ. By following this route Dan puts the game and his company in danger for no apparent reason other than his own ego. Maybe he should think about the fate and future of his employees next time before he mixes up a political or at least personal agenda with the product of his company again. I mean, isnât that what #gamergate is all about? About doing your job âin a professional wayâ without implementing âpropagandaâ? I donât see Dan following this credo her, quite the oppositeâŠ
Again, stating your personal opinion is good and there shouldnât be any reason to not saying what you think. Thatâs what twitter is for. But Dan is going far beyond that. Imo he uses Kingdom Come as a kind of experiment to investigate whether his assumptions about #gamergate and journalists are true and thatâs a dangerous and irresponsible endeavour. I wouldnât mind if the game would be a one-person project with only Dan involved. But IIRC there are about 60 people working at Warhorse and about 36,000 people whoâve backed the game and itâs in no way reasonable or justifiable to use a project of that size and involvement for some personal experiment or personal (political) opinionsâŠ
Edit: I want to add that imo the lack of information on major US sites about the game (or at least the newest update) is also very sad and unprofessional. Despite the passive aggressive behaviour of Dan towards parts of the the (US) gaming press they shouldnât let their personal feelings guide their actions. As journalists they should cover the game nevertheless and there is no excuse for not doing so, at least as long as they are not personally attacked by Dan (which e.g. might be an issue with Polygon).
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At this point there is no specific proof KCD has been blacklisted by some gaming media outlets. It wouldnât surprise me, but a lack of attention to an update made a few days ago is not evidence alone of anything one way or another.
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I canât agree more. This is exactly what I thought watching the video. If you accuse someone of bringing so called âpolitical propagandaâ to non-political medium, the right way to fight against it will definitely not be to do the same thing. By that we will end up in the infinite circle.
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Ultimately itâs Danâs choice how to handle things like this. Just from reading one of the recent interviews he did, itâs pretty clear why heâs as anti-censorship and anti-oppression as he is. It may have the side effect of affecting Warhorse and KCD in some way, but there have already been people who said they had no specific interest in this game but would pledge because of the stance he took (whether they all did or not, we donât know).
Thereâs obviously a risk involved any time someone speaks out against a group trying to bully or influence others, but being silent out of fear you might end up targeted next is not a good way to live whether itâs about a video game or anything else.
People can argue all they like about the way Dan chooses to express his POV on this, but whatâs done is done. The game has already garnered a lot of attention as it is, and thereâs nothing that stops people like us from continuing to spread it via word of mouth. Get enough people talking about it or looking at it, and it wonât matter whether or not a gaming site chooses to ignore it or criticize it simply because of Danâs opinions.
Donât be afraid of gaming sites and journalists.
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By the way, if anyone is concerned enough that Danâs way of handling all of this jeopardizes the chances of KCD releasing, thus wasting what youâve put in toward it, I would suggest you contact Warhorse to seek a refund of your pledge. Otherwise, have a little faith. Thereâs still a ton of time left before the game is due out, anyway.
Nice confirmation bias there⊠now that youâve explained how you would react in such position, perhaps you could manage to admit that this is all you did? 
As for ronin, people make everything that happens âabout themâ are about as interesting to me as roadkill (not at all) because their opinion is directly related to how much or how well it meets their âme me meâ meterâs needs.
I donât put pennies in that well.
Oh look, people have given Techraptor ad impression views for this article. Even though the title is misleading, the evidence is non-existent, and the amount of coverage of KCD overall is ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED.
Drama much? Sheesh.
We are not talking here about Polygon, Kotaku or RPS, which are site with clear position in this foolish flame war. We are talking about sites like Gamespot or IGN. All those sites have been neutral on this topic so far and they still want to be. If they show the video with Dan wearing this t-shirt, they could be easily accused of or proven to be supporters of GamerGate by some hysterical voices from both sides. This is unfortunately the effect of how irrational and hysterical this whole thing is.
Second thing, this is not about concerns whether the game will or will not be released or whatever. The game is for everyone, not just for GG supporters. If I were forced to take a side, I would be probably called SJW because of my POV. I disagree with Danâs opinion, however I respect it. But I didnât back his opinion, I backed the game and I donât see it fair to use the game as a tool for fighting this fight.
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Letâs see what happens when Warhorse puts out the end-of-update teaser/trailer as a unique, specific video.
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And ultimately, the game itself probably canât be separated from being part of Danâs particular fight. Itâs already been a struggle to make the game he wants to make without having others tell him what should or shouldnât be showcased in it. Itâs his vision, so in the end it should be up to him (and whoever he allows into being part of the process) what makes the cut and what doesnât. In a large part, that adherence to his own vision is part of what this whole thing seems to be all about.
I donât agree at all. You kind of act like Dan did something completely ânewâ here, fighting against structures and big players in the industry. Reality is, that other companies have done the same already years ago without the need to follow specific campaigns. I donât see how his vision for Kingdom Come has ANYTHING to do with #gamergate in particular. Letâs take other kickstarter/crowdfunding games like Divinity: Original Sin, Wasteland 2 or Broken Age. They are all successful independent projects with the developers following their specific visions while maintaining full creative freedom and independence. None of the creators of these games needed any political or personal agenda to make that possible. They seem to know the principle of seperating personal opinions and professional work and attitude.
Of course itâs Danâs decision how to do PR for the game, nobody questions that. But as someone who seems to enjoy criticizing other people he should be at least open for critique himself. I can only strongly suggest to seperate personal opinions and your professional work if they not necessarily belong together, especially if there is a chance to damage the reputation of your company and in the end the product youâre making. As much as I applaud Dan for being honest, straight forward and direct I think you MUST live with compromises when you are the CEO of a company with a lot of people and stakeholders involved. Reality is not always that easy and certainly not always black and whiteâŠ
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the difference between discussing something openly and propaganda is a distinction people like to forget. itâs lazy thinking. at itâs extreme, itâs the kind of thinking that equates justified homicide to murder.
This is completely unrelated to what he said I fearâŠ
But while youâre at it: Dan isnât a supporter of the open discussion, at least not if you have a look at his actions and twitter posts. Heâs clearly taking sides and even making fun of people of the âother sideâ. That caricatures the whole alleged point of gamergate. Itâs fighting propaganda with propaganda, aggressive rhetorics with aggressive rhetorics. Thatâs typcial for biased flamewars but not for anything that could or should be called open discussion.
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Sry, but unfortunately Iâm not your guy who would swallow your bait and start another pointless flamewar here. I respect your opinion and you shall respect mine. Thatâs what reasonable people usually do. Iâm not here to censor Dan either, he has his full right to express his POV and say whatever he thinks is right in his opinion. However Iâm bit concern about bringing this issue to things connected to the game itself. It is in my opinion unfair toward people in his team, who know nothing and donât care about GamerGate and toward supporters and backers, who also donât care about GamerGate or are on the opposite side. It would be shameful for US media, if they ignore KCD because of Danâs opinion, but it is also shameful to indirectly bringing this topic to video, which has nothing to do with the topic.
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Wow. Just wow. So Dan is partly responsible for politicaly bias and colluding journalists. I mean, WOW. I canât believe anyone can actually say that.
Just to make it clear, Iâm NOT saying that they do ignore him on purpose because of #gg, itâs too early to tell, even though itâs suspicious. However, Iâll use assumption that they do as you worked with it.
You are hypotheticaly accepting, that some US journalists deliberately ignore game dev and his game, because he dared to critisize them, and you actually blame for it a DEV?? Really? Do you realize how disgusting and pathetic it is? Itâs EXACTLY the same as if someone exposed a corruption case, got fired from a job for that, and you would say âItâs partly his fault, he shoud have thought about his job and his family and shoud have not cared about corruption. Itâs very irresponsible and unproffessional to compromise own job and family by exposing corruptionâ. Because by accepting of hypothesis that these journalists punish Daniel for his stance, you acknowledge that they are exactly the kind of scum trying to silence everyone who opose them that Daniel were saying they are all the time, yet you have the stomach to say that even in this case itâs âpartly Danielâs responsibility.â Again, itâs disgusting.
We can also use thematic feminist example. It is EXACTLY the same as if you blamed a raped woman after a rape was proven that itâs party her fault, because she had a mini-skirt and itâs really irresponsible to wear a mini-skirt at night, and to put in danger herself by that.
Journalistsâ work is to be objective. If they deliberately take revenge on someone and damage him through their media because he dared to critisize them, there is absolutely NO excuse for such behavior in decent society and itâs NEVER fault of a man who critisize them, not even partly, as itâs NOT partly a flirting womanâs fault that she was raped.
I never said that. That wasnât my point after all.
Please read my post again. Especially the last paragraph.
Did you really read my post? I clearly stated that itâs GOOD and RIGHT to state your opinion. I just said that such a discussion (or something childish like his shirt in the video) might be counterproductive for selling a product like a video game.
And you know, in the real world people always make compromises. Like I said, the world isnât all black and white. You cannot expect to attack people and later expect them to work for you. That doesnât work no matter if you are right or wrong. Humans usually donât work like that and if you want to succeed in our world and maybe sell something you better learn that pretty soon. Itâs one thing to be open and direct on twitter. Many people are. But usually they mark their account with words like âwords/opinions are my one and not those of my companyâ or something along these lines. You know, thatâs because they are grown up people who have understood that it isnât always the best way to piss against the wind no matter what and no matter the casualties. Like Iâve said before, as a CEO of a company you have something called responsibility, responsibility for your employees and your stakeholders. That should be your first and primary objective and not some experiments like compromising your product with your personal opinions about political or at least highly controversial issues. I mean, whatâs the purpose of that? I donât see it.
Nothing Iâve said can be compared to that. And please stop trying to silence me with over the top or shocking alleged synonymsâŠ
Game developersâ work is to make games. Thatâs exactly what I wanted to say. Itâs not very helpful to criticize others for showing a bad behaviour by doing exactly the same. As much as some journalists compromise their articles Dan compromises his game by following a certain agenda or implementing private issues (may it be revenge or whatever).
To be completely clear here, by corruption of game journalism you mean this, right? 
LordCrash: I havenât seen any of his opinions being published as Warhorseâs. If somebody cannot (or do not want to) see the difference between him and the studio⊠then that is just wrong.