Life expectancy wasn’t high for many reasons, but primarily the young tend to die fast due to recklessness and wars. However once you reached a certain age you could expect to reach a good age unless you found yourself with a disease that you couldn’t fight off. Overall you’re right though.
I’m about 50/50 in agreement with your statement. With the exception of your comment [quote=“Dushin, post:29, topic:15559”]
I can’t really imagine how our blacksmith Henry would fit in those scenarios. Even if you caught them in the act you would probably not jam a knife between his (or her) ribs because you aren’t a vigilante of some sort.
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Really…considering the three play styles are bard, warrior, and assassin I don’t see why it would be unimaginable to jab a knife in someones ribs for raping another person. (Except for maybe if you’re a bard.) You’re a human with a conscience and you’re fighting and killing. One thing you certainly wouldn’t mind is killing the women who’s raping a poor boy. (or man or whoever.)
I think life expectancy had even more to do with dying in childhood or infancy than wars and such, diseases and hunger are to blame. Looking at my family tree 12 seems to be the magical age that once you pass it lets you reach adulthood. I even got some ancestors born in the sixteenth century who somehow reached 80.
I can already imagine it.
“Hey whassup king clausy, I eh… I jammed a knife between the ribs of quartermaster because I saw him getting his way with this nun”
“HENNNRY!!! Not cool man, totally not cool! You are so fired”.
Well actually being fired might be the least you could expect.
Anyways An Assassin might fight in now I think about it. Some noble women wanting revenge/honor killing, bypassing court and publicity. Of course the same can be done in the village setting, would like it if they made it some sort of moral complex though. Maybe a monk or nun who feeds the poor and is good 364 days a year but not the 365th day. Same with the noble thing where killing this one noble might severely cripple the military command of “the good” faction.
@Madaras… it took me about an hour to figure out if i was going to post here. and i still don’t know how i should word this.
it almost sounds like you are looking for something that IMO a game doesn’t need to be good. relationships in games are to help drive a story i think. and having a homosexual relationship in a game like this is not only not realistic (for what ever that may be worth) but i just don’t think its necessary. and and the fact you had to make two threads JUST to argue your case to try to make it seem like it is necessary just isn’t landing for me. but if i EVER some how manage to get around to actually making the game i am writing i will send you a PM to know when to expect it as i DID integrate the option (from the beginning) to have a relationship with who ever the player wanted. but as i said my games story is driven by this. Warhorses story may not be. don’t force it man…
well i think i found a good way to express (with the little knowledge i have about making a game) why i think this topic is just not needed. i hope it wasn’t to harsh about it though. hope all is good.
That’s why the statistics excluding people dying before the age of 5 or 6 are the only ones that hold relevant data about primitive societies with high infant death rate (amazonian indians, subsaharan african tribes, medieval tech and medicines-level societies). When most adults die at the age of around 50, each pair gives birth to 6-12 kids out of which 3-5 die pretty soon, the life expectancy gets significantly lowered.
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Medieval level of medicines was easily a millennium above Amazonian Indians and Subsaharan african tribes. I got a few neat accounts (in old Dutch) about primitive brain surgery being preformed in the 11th century.
It kinda relates to this somewhat funny documentary.
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I don’t know how you came to the conclusions I wrote to threads to make the same case. This thread is about realism in games and “how far should it be taken” because as I mentioned (a few months back) there is obviously lines that we know shouldn’t be crossed, but where are those lines. That’s pretty much the point of this thread. Though I do appreciate being kept in the loop about any interesting games so thanks.
Why? I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow to the knee!!
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ive seen mud crabs more fearsome than you !
Indeed I do. I think it’s been greatly overlooked in all forms of media (well except for porn and you-tube celebrities and we know how they’re flourishing) I grew up with it always man falls for girl, Girl is put in danger, man saves girl, girl blows man…(or in more G rated thing marries man) That has been done over and over until now it’s simply predictable. We have the Man and women stereotype and even movies like (the recent) Godzilla have become well stupid because they plug in that “expected” norm, and try to use that norm HARD to pull at your heart strings, and so nothing is unexpected. Love is a beautiful thing and it doesn’t need to fit in a cookie cutter pattern. I for one love women I really do. Romantically and emotionally I’m attracted to them, however physically I’d never want to have sex with them. It just feels wrong and gross and awful. (No offence ladies) however men can be charming and incredibly (sexually) attractive. So I don’t fit the gay stereotype or heterosexual. Because I’m a man who wants to marry a women and a bi-sexual man (so that she can get some too) However that’s a little about me personally and I only mention it to make a point and that is there is more to humans than a single minded direction. More than one path more ways of experiencing the world around us. If we allow ourselves to not be cultivated by the “norms”. Not that norms are bad, they help to define us as well and the come about by the majority of people in a location being similar. However one does not need to be forced into a norm and vice verse all parties can accept each other and even enjoy each other. Heck even I want to see the little mermaid meet her prince.
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If you add some mythical monster or enemy you got 99% of pre 1900 literature/stories. I think people love it 
Anyways I haven’t read your other thread but I am not sure if Bohemia circa 1400 was the right time and place to get in a relationship with a guy. Living in a closed off monastery or as a noble or even royalty you might pull it off (and cases are known) but as a village blacksmith it’s probably harder.
Anyways no appreciation for funbags?
I was just reading your post again, and a lot of post from my other threads and recently played dynasty warriors and mixing all that together came a thought. Like Liu Bei a man who became a hero by following the path of benevolence. That is by caring about the people. I could see a possibility where a blacksmith could become a hero by doing just that. You might help someone who was raped or who you see being raped. You might proved coin for the poor or save a farm from raiders. You might rally people together To fight against a bandit camp or overthrow the local corrupt town minister. You deeds and desires could spread and more people would follow you. I actually quite like that thought. Though your journey to power (whether intentional or not) would unlikely go unnoticed and the ones in power will try to crush you before you become a problem. Anyhow not completely on topic, but a thought you sort of provoked.
I never heard about Liu Bei so I searched in the Internet about him. It seems to me that he became Emperor (he proclaimed himself) because he was a skilled and ambitious soldier and politician, although I’m not saying he wasn’t benevolent.
Anyway, it is said that there will be an advanced reputation and law system and three different classes, so the things you say could be interesting (but always having in mind that you are a blacksmith and it is the medieval period), acting as a knight and helping some farmers against raiders for example, as you said.
Yup that’s part of his history as well. However that’s more like highlights than anything. He declared himself emperor of Shu. At this point in history there was actually three emperors. 3 factions warring over control of china. However that is neither here nor there as it’s said.
Back in those days Chinese commanders could fly though, take on 500 men all by themselves and snap a bundle of spears with their little finger.
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you play a nameless character, not joan or arc or jan zizka, or even some minor notable history character. you’re literally anonymous, so your actions will likely be confined to believable fiction. helping poor people…by proxy of helping your lord perform some service, guarding his property, etc, makes more sense in the context of this game than a “journey to power”
Now you’re looking awfully misinformed…again. So go to the “game” page and read about our “hero” “The son of a blacksmith will emerge a hero” So yeah, you pretty much are like Joan d’arc or any other random hero figure that became plucked from obscurity by their actions.
if he was like joan of arc, we’d know about him from history books. clearly, he’s nameless. apparently the paradox went over your head.
Ok well now I see where we are divided. The setting the fighting the clothing are historically accurate, but this game is a fiction. This is a historically accurate setting, but the story isn’t one from history, but written by the developers.
Actually, it’s a mix of both. A historical story bent a bit here and there, filled with our stuff where gaps were left by the time. The hero is not nameless technically speaking, his name is Jindřich/Henry. But I guess 213 is talking about his historical existence. I am not sure if we confirmed whether Henry is or isn’t a historical figure si I will leave that question unanswered.
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