Magic in middleages

There is a witch being burned in one of the trailers. I’m guessing it’s a witch anyway.

That or the village fete got a little out of hand! Hey-o!

There should only be magic present in the sense that people speak of curses and witches, and you yourself can deal in the alchemy skill, which could be viewed as magic by some, but magic should never be present in any other form like healing spells or casting fireballs. We’ve all seen the witch at the stake in the trailer, so of course people believe in magic in the world of KC, but it shouldn’t be more than a belief. Just like the religion, which will most likely be present everywhere in the game. You can see all the christian symbols, the priests, and people killing others in the name of their maker, but you should never see God intervene anywhere, no burning bushes, water turning into wine or splitting the oceans.

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It is a witch, she turned me into a newt!

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without magic, please

I think this was already decided with “Dungeons, No Dragons”.

But it would be immersive and setting compliant to have female herbalists derided as ‘witches’ and have alchemists the object of superstitious fear.

The more superstition the better, it will only add to authenticity.

nah, no magic. that’s the difference of this game to maintream-shit , so why arguing about it?
but! in the trailer, where someone steal another ones coin-purse, the crowd is watching some one who gets burned on a stake… a witch i suppose? but people getting accused to practice magic don’t add magic to the game, does it?

NO magic, but strange stories and legends that just turning out to be bandits or operators behind these stories, YES

The ignorance in middleage can give a little play in this aspect but nothing of strange people with apparently powers that can be explained

If what you said earlier about “blessing” and “alchemy” being “magic” holds true then sure, well spoken words and chemistry are intimidating and might get a reaction (huehue…reaction) from certain crowd but I’m sure they will be called something other than magic in the game.

I don’t want the fantasy game magic, but in medieval times they believed in “magic” what we know as science. But people at that time knew that world was flat and the Sun circle Earth, and they did believed in witch craft and they arranged witch-hunts. And that is my point, they should do quest about witch hunts and burn her in fire or decapitate.

Interestingly, renaissance and baroque people were more superstitious compared to middle ages.

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I’ve always been a practitioner of magic. Mostly illusions, but some more subtle things as well. I think NPCs hexing people would be interesting, though for those die hard anti-magic people here (whom I have no problem with) hexing could be as simply done using alchemy and slipping it their concotions into the towns water supply or food sources (such as cow or chicken feed or even wheat)

Nobody actually believed the world was flat back then. It’s very easy to see the curvature of the earth when standing by a shore. People knew it was round but no one knew how big it was. That’s what people disagreed about, like when Columbus wanted to sail west to take a shortcut to India. The disagreement wasn’t that the world was flat and they would fall off when reaching the edge, it was that Columbus thought earth was much smaller than the king of Portugal thought, who he tried to get financial aid from. He got the same thing from the spanish court as well, that he underestimate how far away India would be, but they later changed their minds.

Sure, this is late 15th century, what did they think before that? We have a greek guy called Eratosthenes, who lived in 270 BC, and he calculated the circumference of the earth, as well as the axis tilt. He actually was pretty close in his calculations as to what we know today. He got the result of 46,620 km, and the earth is actually 40,075 km. He was ~16% off.

So yeah, people might’ve argued in history whether he was right or wrong in how big the earth was, but people still knew it was round. Had to be. On the other hand, it was always popular opinion that the earth was the center of the universe and that everything rotated around us. It was unpopular to believe otherwise, like Copernicus.

12th- and 13th-century the Earth was considered “round like a table” rather than “round like an apple”.
But I know what Greeks did, I’m Greek and I know the history, but that’s why we call it the Dark Ages, not Light Ages.

No, that can’t be right.

Don’t know if we can trust wikipedia but there is some info and my teacher teach me same thing in history class

And as you see in your own quote, it doesn’t mention anyone in medieval Europe believed in a flat earth.

I can understand how one can tangent from magic to a flat earth discussion, however no one is using that aspect to make any points on superstition or magic so I don’t understand why it’s being discussed here. Out of respect for the topic would you please make a point related to the conversation (which is magic in the middleages) . Thank you.

Burning witches would be great ! :smiley:

That would be a fantastic “type” of bardic route.
Also known as “The Mystic Bard”