Nah, I’m just an Earl.
The thing is, usually barons would, in case of lack of better suitors (unlanded nobles), be choosen from the minor noblesse (ie knights) or noble bastards whom have proven themselves worthy.
A commoner would have to do such badass things for him to be named baron outright, that it would be an enormously famous history, if it had ever happened.
Of course I’m always refering to title granting. There have been countless low-borns taking titles by force. But that would require a much larger coup, since if Henry (assuming he gathers support from enough soldiers) manages to steal a barony for himself… He’ll have to answer before the count, whom probably won’t be happy about it. And from there, up the chain food.
Of course, cunning dirty Henry could be in cahoots with the count to tople Baron Evildude, and take the title for himself as a reward… But that would require that Henry had something that no minor noble around the place could offer him. And ofc that the count hated the baron for some reason.
Aaaand about the knighting thing, I do recall reading that you won’t be knighted, at least in Act 1.
(sigh) For the love of god… I don’t think I’ve once spoken of becoming a baron… The only thing I’ve said is that becoming a knight would be possible… Nothing else.
not really. name one and i can give you a logical explanation with historical backing. most obvious one is probably reading and writing. henry is cohorts with the local nobility. his father is a favored blacksmith of racek kobyla, he received a privileged upbringing. already henry is not “peasant”, but he is till a commoner. as such, he is still not going to be made a knight willy nilly. although i don’t thing it’s out of realm of possibility. but to go from, may possibly be knighted to deposing barons is a huge leap.
that is not imagination, that is just willful disregard of common sense.
Why did you quote something that I quoted? That wasn’t said by me, I used that to make a joke, if you’d like to actually check.
I’m not sure why you have such a huge problem with what I’m saying. I’ve never said it is likely, or probable, or that it should, or will happen, I don’t think I’ve even said it will, but the fact remains, that their is a possibility of being knighted, at least their would be in this world. That is all.
I reiterate, I’m not talking about barons, I have never been talking about becoming a baron, or deposing of them, I’m not sure why people think I am.
I have to say I again since people aren’t getting it: I AM NOT TALKING AT ALL ABOUT BARONS, I only had one point, which no one seems to understand.
Maybe the title of this topic should be changed to “Possible to become a noble,” baron, knight or whatever.
- I say “no commoner has been made baron, that I know of” in reply to the thread.
- You reply me “not that you know of”.
- I reply that if it had happened, I would know it.
- You argue that you aren’t talking about barons, for some reason? Why do you reply a post that does, then?
I assume that was directed to me, since 213 doesn’t even use the word barons and talks only about knigthing.
Yeah… He did. If you’d like to actually read his post… :I
It was directed at him, the way he was talking, it made it seem as if I was arguing that becoming a baron is possibility (not saying anything their)
Would you? I wasn’t aware you know everything that has ever happened throughout history:/
In short I was replying too a post that made it sound as if I was speaking of the possibility of becoming a baron… Which I never was… Ever. To the “Now that you have heard of” thing I said, that was probably a terrible joke on my part… Sorry.
I will say to you the same thing I have said to some other guys:
“Just leave it [as it is]. Nobody knows who you guys are. I mean, you don’t need to feel compelled to ‘defend your honor’ or reputation as a ‘gamer’ or something.”
xkcd #386: Duty Calls
The original poster’s question was:
“Is it possible to become a Baron in this game? Pledge loyalty to a Count or Duke and receive a castle or something?”
It would seem that he was interested in receiving a castle. Will that happen? Possible but improbable. Now, none of us is from the Dev team (@warhorse), so it would be better if you’d just ask one of them.
Mmm, god thing I never asked anyone!
Me, you, historians. As I’ve already said, commoners didn’t get promoted to noble (upper nobility, no less) for no good reason (if they did at all). I’ts not “a certain day, Henry the blacksmith woke up and found a penny under his bed. That was a good day for Henry”. It’s “and a certain day, Henry decided to take in arms in defense of duke Wulfrid, whom was being besieged and had already lost all his belongings outside his castle, to the hands of his hated archenemy duke Wulfrod. Henry, with his unmatched charisma skills, travelled from village to village recruiting an enormous army of peasants. Eventually, he leaded them against the forces of the evil duke Wulfrod, camped outside Wulfrid’s castle, and defeated them in an epic battle”.
Then he MIGTH be rewarded with a barony. And something that certainly would be remembered by someone.
That was my quote, and that’s not the point I’m getting at. The fantasy element is based on things that happened in the real world, or are things people could have done in the real world, but so are the Call of Duty games when you get down to it. The fantasy element comes in us doing things with characters that most of us probably aren’t doing or won’t do in real life: acting like a knight, hunting, even making things as a blacksmith.
We’ll still be pretending to do things through a character that the majority of us would not otherwise do for real, or at the level of skill we do things at in the games. Just about any game we could play fits that bill.
I’m not arguing about the possibility of commoners becoming barons… When I said that, I was pointing out that you claimed to have all knowledge of medieval history, even that which wasn’t recorded or was lost.
Hence you saying: “If it happened I would know”
That’s all, just an observation.
Wow, this blew up. I haven’t read everything but the “pledge loyalty” comment was just an example. What about leading a peasant revolt? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engelbrekt_Engelbrektsson lead a peasant revolt and captured/destroyed at least a dozen castles. I personally can’t see why after several years of war the peasants wouldn’t become dissatisfied and war weary and thus revolt. Unless the devs intend to end the war in a few years and have a short time of peace before an expansion for another war.
Since this is realistic game placed to real historical events in real world, there is no paesant revolt and no dozen castles.
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Reality is unrealistic, then.
only if your definition of reality places 1434 swedish peasant revolt inside bohemia 1403
Was there a Henry the Blacksmith who lost his smithy and father in a fire in Bohemia 1403?
With different name very possibly.
We know there is no historic precedent for peasant(s) overthrowing nobility? Do we?