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Who the hell do you think you are fooling? They have cameras to stop heavily armed terrorists :wink:

How are you? What happened to you that you needed German healthcare?

Just wanted to know what was up with the random questions in the survey . Almost as if you was questioning the entire setting and feel of the game .

Off the record of course :wink:

And these guys . A group set up specifically to respond to any such attack .

Yeah, well, such SWAT teams are everywhere. But then when SHTF, like it happened in Uherský Brod, it takes them time to get to the place. And time is something the victims don’t have.

We are now retraining large part of the police force so that there will always be 2 heavily armed highly CQB trained policemen capable of reaching any place in the country (not only large cities) within 10 minutes. That is on top of the normal patrol cars all having body armor and a select-fire rifle in the trunk.

Indeed these men would be your second level armed response . Nornal armed police here all have body armour and assault rifles amongst other weapons in their cars .
We also have the SAS counter terrorism wing who are ALWAYS on stand by and ready to go at a seconds notice . Anywhere in country as they have their own helicopter squadron which can take them anywhere .
Special forces as protocol are notified the moment any large scale incident takes place in the UK That could potentially need their expertise . But they’re generally a last resort to fully use as they don’t negioate once they go in they’re there to kill the bad guys not arrest them

In terms of a mass organised shooting with multiple shooters . People are going to die regardless of it happening in . The us ,UK or cezch Republic .
London would react very quickly my personal worry is if they attacked another large city where the response wouldn’t be so quick .

The unit in the picture from what I’ve read is a specialised metropolitan unit so would be based in London . So they are not going to be in much of a position to respond to a large incident in say Glasgow . They would have to rely on regular armed police and for the miltary to arrive

Although It is possible each police force is getting such a unit and it’s just not being made public knowledge

Well, here the tiers were so far like this:
1 standard patrol (2 guys with pistols, body armor, 1 select fire rifle in car/other stored at station) - everywhere
2 rapid response patrol (3 guys with pistols, body armor, select fire rifles) - 4 major metropolitan areas and nearby (ca 1/3 of country)
3 local SWAT (with helicopters, 8 units covering 14 regions)
4 URNA - our counterpart to your SAS, stationed in Prague, also with its own helicopters, nationwide jurisdiction

Now there will be that 1.5 level covering the remaining 2/3 of the country doing both general patrolling as well as being highly equipped and trained for CQB on top of the 1.0 level.

This is the standard equipment of the 2.0 level, the 1.5 will be similar, just that it will be 2 cops instead of 3 and will be doing also more general patrolling duty.

seems quite similar to ours .

we also have
"british transport police " who are 70% armed . these are the police you generally see when landing in the UK
http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1000-3/photos/1331253499-controlled-explosion-carried-out-in-trafalgar-square_1096093.jpg

generally they just walk about airports , train stations etc in pairs . also though like today i walked past 3 sitting in a jeep outside of my local train station i get on , on my way home .

then we have metropolitan police , who are like federal police i guess . they’re responsible for counter terrorism and also the greater london area
their armed police who you see all the time in london drive around in these

with 3 in each
or these if its more of an armed traffic stop

they carry this kit in their cars at all times

but generally you will seem them like this
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01888/SNN1013GX2_1888641a.jpg
minus the mp5 if they’re just dealing with a small street incident .

on top of that we also have the city of london police :slight_smile: who are responsible for the "square mile " the main financial district of london
who are normally like this

generally the Met police would deal with any large firearms or hostage situation in london . that being said however if an incident such as the irainain embassy happened again . the SAS would be used simply because they’re far more trained and experienced in dealing with hostages in a well defended building

ohh and on top of that we also have escort officers on bikes who are all 100% armed and are their to escort the queen and other officials etc , so they would also respond

Quite similar here. All cops have their pistols and shotguns, most have m4s in their cars.

british armed police record . 2 people killed by police in the last 4 years .
In 2013-14, there were 14,864 armed operations that took place and only two bullets were used. That means firearms were used in 0.013% of armed police operations.

The only person to be killed during the 14,864 operations in 2013/14, was Dean Joseph who was threatening a woman with a knife when he was shot in September 2014. He was being taken to hospital but died on the way.

US police have killed 503 people already in 2015 . yep i think you have a few issues :slight_smile:

@snejdarek be interesting to see the cezch stats . should be about the same ish as the UK’s i would imagine.

and yet we still get the families of the thugs moaning they were only shot because they were black . i can almost guarantee the majority of them 14k armed call outs were involving street gangs who would be majority black . yet only two were shot . so you can be sure as hell they were shot for a damn good reason

You’ll never fly in it, you’re too fat to be an astronaut.’ The Duke dashed a 13-year-old boy’s ambitions of space travel

what the queens husband came out with :slight_smile:

Well, we really don’t have the American police gun overuse problem, but we are nowhere near the UK numbers either. A speciality of Czech police - one that they don’t have even in US - is the practice of shooting on evading vehicles - most usually aiming at wheels or engine, but sometimes hitting also occupants.

In my quick search I could find that there were 71 gun uses (shots fired at perps) and 136 warning shots (usually to the ground, as firing into the sky is not considered safe) fired in 2008. I am not sure about number of casualties, but generally there is not an issue with cops shooting a person for a wrong reasons (apart from the above mentioned cases of occupants of evading vehicles getting shot by mistake).

Interesting thing is that about 90% (2008) of shots fired are the general patrol officers, 5% road police, and the rest goes to specialized detectives and SWATs. So while in UK you have specialized “armed cops”, here the gun uses go mostly to the “first in line” cops.

Well you will never see Czech cops with select fire rifles during “normal duty”, only if they are after something. Otherwise it is locked in a safe in their cars.

Or maybe the U.S has a population of 300 million and the U.K has a population of 60 million. It’s honestly absurd to compare our countries in most cases. Plus i doubt you have heavily armed gangs or even cartels in this case who are actively targeting police. Its far more dangerous to be a cop in the U.S and i bet you’ll find most of those shootings were justified.

That sounds pretty dangerous. If you were to miss in a high speed chase then you could easily end up hitting an innocent bystander or cause other motorists to crash.

The cops generally don’t shoot at the car until they reach a place where there is a little chance of a stray bullet hitting an innocent bystander. Last time they actually did hit others (fortunately only cars, not people inside) was, amazingly, not the general patrol that do about 98% shootings on cars, but a SWAT when their 2012 arrest attempt of a fake cop went wrong. I guess that these guys think too much of themselves and won’t even contemplate missing the target, well, they hit two other cars in this chase (apart from doing quite a lot of damage to the evading vehicle). Video in the link:

Here general patrols were chasing car some 120kms. The guy got hit in the neck but managed to drive further 50 kms to hospital where he collapsed at the entrance door. (video in link)

There were in about 2010-2011 two unrelated cases in which the cops were shooting at the engine compartment, right side, but for some totally stupid reason there were passengers at the front seat hiding down under the dashboard (instead of sitting). The bullets went all the way through, in both cases the passengers were immediately dead. I think that after this the police stopped targeting the engine compartment and do either wheels or driver directly.

Case 1 in Prague: the driver actually ran away on foot after the passenger was shot dead. (Cops were busy trying to help her instead of running after him).

I can’t find pictures of the other case, but while the first one was some recidivist, the other started as a mere driving away from a gas station without paying.

worked well here

There is an annual international snipers’ competition (both police and army) in the Czech Republic called “Ride of the Kings”.


I’d really love to try shooting a sniper rifle from a heli one day!

wouldnt mind having a go myself

If you ever make it to the U.S you can do hog hunting from a helicopter in the southern states mainly Texas i believe.

Theres several compaines that take people and you can shoot as many as you want because they’re way over populated.

well thats my flights booked :slight_smile:

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