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Many states would. But if the U.S ever had another revolution or civil war quite a few states would brake off like Texas. They would help topple the government but they probably wouldn’t stay with the Union.

You spent close to a 200 comment argument with me and @snejdarek saying that a big uprising would be instantly crushed by any government.

it would be without the support of the military yes . hitler will tell you all about that one , thats something he learned at the munich putsch . for any leader to take power he requires the loyalty of the army . without an army a dictator is just a single man .

but i dont think either of you are even comprehending the point im making . when i say you have to fight under one flag not multiple ones for an uprising to have any chance of being successful and progressive

For fuck’s sake that was an attempt of what was a bunch of fucking hooligans to take over power. Not in a single instance did you get anywhere near to talking about popular militia, like the one that is in Switzerland today or the Hussite militia that rolled through the Czech Crown lands in the 1420s making cannon-fodder and laughing stock of the best European professional armies.

In Afghanistan there is dzillion of various fractions, tribes and families fighting their own small wars and vendettas, only currently using the name of taliban as what you call “common flag”, but once the common enemy - the invading forces - are gone they will be at each other’s teeth.

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A modern army would wipe the floor with an uprising unless of course the entire country split .

Comparing wars of hundreds of years ago to today is stupid at best . In them days the army would have to fight you man to man . Now they do not .

And don’t attempt to bring up Afghanistan as the mission in Afghanistan was never to destroy the Taliban out right but only to win the hearts of the people . And stabilise the country .

You just made the point I’ve been trying to make this entire fucking thread in the last line of your paragraph .
when the government falls multiple militias always turn on each other in this day and age . Not a single modern revolution has it not gone that way .
It would in America too because the left wing would want a left wing America and the right wing would want a right wing America and the two would be free to kill each other .

Is that what happened in Afghanistan?

For fuck’s sake, are you for real?

It took us almost 20 fucking years to defeat the Viet cong in nam. And the only reason we did was because the decided to attack us in one large assault out in the open instead of operating in small groups in the jungle.

The left wing would be utterly destroyed if it came down to civil war. They would probably side with the government how ever most of the military are right wing southerners not to mention all the gun owners and militias are right winged.

A revolution the left would side with the government and still would lose.

after 3 tours of Afghanistan 2 of them being as an officer im fully aware of the objective of the war . and it was NEVER to destroy the taliban .

ISAF are not their to wage an offensive war never have been .

exactly . before you were doing what we are doing in Afghanistan . which annoys me . the mission isnt to kill the enemy , hunt them down where ever they’re . its , this is your area , provide security to A, B and C and win hearts and minds .

that was the basis of my operations in the regular parachute regiment .

a great example of this is on my second tour (my first as an officer ) we were positioned about 8 miles from a very important Taliban strong hold . where they trained , lived and operated from .

we used to be like a training exercise for them , many of the Taliban’s new recruits first contacts was with our patrol base . i cant even begin to describe the amount of times i asked for permission to assault it . and every time my request was refused .

and that was common all through the war . the frustration amongst officers was unreal . hands tied behind our backs constantly . if the gloves had come off i have no doubt the war would of been over years ago . the taliban crushed . completely.

when ISAF did fully attack we crushed everything . AC130 's Apaches , you name it when we brought it in the taliban were wiped the floor with , but the pure bureaucracy in requesting such an operation with such support was unreal and normally refused

exactly my point :smile:

on to another very interesting topic . at the minute im taking it with a pinch of salt but

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A perfect excuse to go back into the middle east. Do you still seriously believe 9/11 was done by Osama Bin laden?

im not fully convinced by either side in that topic to be honest . i take both arguments at face value and tr and keep open minded but yes i lean more to the side of it being set up . the CIA have history of supporting such operations .

Watch this. A pilot of a show that aired 6 months before 9/11. See if you can find any coincidences between this fictional event and the terror attacks of September the 11th.

@TheDivineInfidel you ignored this video before respond dammit :wink:

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Why the hell is this on the Warhorse News page? Oo

@Tobitobsen

What is it? 20cahrsssss

A link to a fundamentalistic christ spokesman on youtube…

Weird can’t imagine why that would show up there. And accident perhaps?

I have no idea, thats why I am asking :smile:

I think it may was be an over-motivated christian warhorse employee with access to Warhorse news page. But Jesus is not “the good news” …its not a “news” anyway
… its 2000 years old stuff you know… nothing new about it.
And how can some omnipresent stuff be news at all? I mean, if Jesus is the only truth, he must be omnipresent. But he is not, because if he would, there would be no need to save people from world without Jesus. There would be no way without Jesus if he is the only truth. But if he is not omipresent, how can he be the only truth? Jesus stuff is weird… :frowning:

Well i can’t really see any over motivated Christians in warhorse seeing how from the stats ive seen the Czech Republic is 90% atheist. :wink:

The only reason i could see it being on there is either a mistake or perhaps it relates to the game, because it does take place in Christian Europe.

Yes, I know about the 90% atheists, thats why I am so confused (well, I don´t know they are 90% but I know czech is pretty atheistic). But that don´t mean there are no christians at all, and maybe some fundamentalistic ones. Maybe they need some to do a game like “Kingdom Come: Deliverance”. I mean christianity was very important in 1403, so you need someone who knows about it if you want to produce this game. And who knows best about christianity? Yes… christians…

I especially like the 1:30 part of this video with automatic english subtitles
"If you don´t know cheeses you go to hell" :full_moon:
So good I know so many different cheeses… gouda, mozzarella, parmesan, camembert, cheddar, feta, allgäuer, emmenthaler, bavaria blu, harzer cheese, limburger, brie… I am saved :smile:

90% sane people them :slight_smile:

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