Yes and unless you are being detained you have a legal right to remain in your vehicle. An officer has no legal authority to remove you from your vehicle unless you consent to a search of persons or property or if you are being detained, at which point the officer has a legal obligation to declare what you are being detained for and that you are being detained.
Simply saying im giving you a lawful order is bullshit and not legally binding. Trust me bro I have actually been arrested and gone through this whole process personally.
Exactly you can’t say so for sure either.
So had she lived they would still be making a big deal out of it?
Black people get wrongfully stopped and arrested everyday in this country (helps them paint pictures by falsifying statistics (same shit they do with marijuana arrests)) but it doesn’t always make the news.
It become news worthy once the person has died especially if in police custody. before death its really hard to spin propaganda around.
Its a propaganda race war they aren’t going to show anything that suggests equality in this country.
Wow you really buy into that “all Black people are bad propaganda” no offense but often times you come off as having the mentality of “niggers get what niggers deserve”.
Keep in mind that when talking about any group of people/race/religion/social group that media lies and you cannot form opinions based on a minority.
Just because a few thousand undereducated (and highly manipulated) people take to the streets in a protest of ignorance, doesn’t mean they represent the other 41 Million black people in the country.
All cops get a bad wrap because a select few, the same way an entire race is blamed for the issues of the minority of the group.
In the UK they always invite you to sit in their car and they record you the entire time .
Not sure if your legally required to however as pretty much everyone just goes with the officer .
The woman certainly didn’t help her situation . I don’t think it has anything to do with her race I think the officer just didn’t take well to her attitude which she showed right away .
When you see some of these guys on YouTube who go through all their rights etc (normally white men ) they do it in annoying way yes but they never come across aggressive where as this woman came across as aggressive . So I think the officer just decided he didn’t like her .and went to town on her .
Which we could argue is unprofessional but at the same time human nature .
The issue I take is the black communities habit of continuely separating blacks and whites . When in doing so they hinder the very message they’re trying to push .
If we just concentrated on the rights the officer may or may not have broken in the said situation and remove the whole race part we could have the same debate and actually make progress in these situations of how an officer should act .
But instead we are drawn into the silly argument of blacks vs whites which isn’t going to progress anywhere other than feeding divide
I completely agree. He displayed classic police bullying, but she also failed to control her attitude.
Unfortunately in America police have been trained to treat citizens (regardless of race) as potential “time bombs” and vice versa media and anti police propaganda makes citizens feel and act like the live in an Orwellian society with Egotistical sociopaths with guns patrolling the streets.
Honestly what annoys me is people cannot see this an American issue.
Not all police abuse their power, Not all white Americans are racist, Not all black people are ignorant Trouble makers, but 100% of Americans are effected by the high level of ignorance and manipulation that is going around these days.
It wasn’t that long ago that the hot topic was immigrants, border control, and Mexicans were the “enemy”.
Unfortunately the “Black Power” movement is coming back strong and its emanating from the most depraved undereducated communities (the people most susceptible to believing whitey is the devil).
Whats the most appalling is when people bring up rights activists who fought for equality not separatism and supremacy.
Also the rise of the Hebrew Israelite’s doesn’t help the mix. History has shown us before what happens when a people are taught they are god’s chosen people.
Yeah ive seen that picture, the tank was lost to friendly fire.
Probably in the back. The Abrams is not made to clear cities, or combat infantry, its made for killing other tanks. The frontal army is very strong but it suffers from weaker back armor.
So if a tank say has its track knocked off you count that as a kill, even though it can be fixed and the crews are still living? That’s like saying if one part of your car is damaged the entire thing is destroyed.
The Abrams was used more heavily and used longer in Iraq.
They weren’t ditched. We didn’t lose them. 80 were sent back to the U.S.
Most the damage reported was relatively light and was an easy fix.
Texas state law could be different than where you live. The cop they interviewed said they could legitimately order you out of the car,.
So do whites, even more so than blacks.
Lol where are you getting that from? A cop does risk his job if he arrests a black person theses days. Just look what happened in Ferguson. The media completely lied their asses off about what really happened and people refused to believe that the shooting was self defence.
I will say this though. I don’t see whites rioting and looting, every time time a white person is arrested or kill by cops.
White people were looting and rioting after the oj Simpson trial.
Blacks make up 13% of our population, and they commit over half the murders in this country. That makes them the most violent ethnic group living in America.
That’s not stereotyping that’s a fact. I’m well aware there are good black people in this country, but i wouldn’t say they vastly out number the criminals.
And there was no reason behind all the negative attitudes towards illegals?
Many of these tanks well practically all but one . We’re blown up by US forces after ditching the tank . In my books the enemy however took it out .
This is common practice .
This happened many times with the Abrams as your wiki article details of you read it . Practically all of these were due to mine/IED attacks damaging the Abrams to the point the only option is to ditch and destroy .
Thsys the result of enemy contact in any ones books therefore it’s an enemy kill . Paint it which ever way you like .
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Probably in the back. The Abrams is not made to clear cities, or combat infantry, its made for killing other tanks. The frontal army is very strong but it suffers from weaker back armor
[/quote] no they were all full armour penetrations
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They weren’t ditched. We didn’t lose them. 80 were sent back to the U.S.
Most the damage reported was relatively light and was an easy fix.
[/quote]many ditched . Read your own source .
23 taken out of service , never to be used again . They’re enemy kills
You generally come off with an attitude against black people. Just how you perceive im against Christians (when im not), im not saying that is what you think but that is the perception you put out.
No more or less then he does with any other person, skin color does not determine mentality/personality. Regardless of statistics that suggest otherwise. Statistics lie and are manipulated on a regular basis.
Just like you don’t see this happening “every time” a black person is arrested. Only when it works to create a separatist agenda.
Lazy much? or disrespectful? i deserve my own rebuttal goddammit!
That or any other that suggest black people are more prone to commit crime. those crimes are not committed by the whole 13%. Black people are no more or less dangerous to an officer than any other citizen, Unless they are in an area known for higher crime rates against officers.
No its because you chose to except they are the “problem”.
This was the case for many American ones yes . As the us high command had the bright idea of rolling tanks down the narrow streets of Baghdad .
Not the brightest idea . Many of the issues here was an RPG was able to penetrate to the engine disabling the tank . But that’s. Not a huge issue repair wise as the engine can be take. out and replaced and it just plugs in .
But not great for the crew in the situation in the time
I did but i was halfway through typing my reply to your last comment and @TheDivineInfidel comment, so i just put it in the same comment.
Still not a false statistic. And actually yes, if you compare the numbers more blacks commit crimes than any other race in this country, its not racism its a fact.
Yes i agree all this race baiting and race wars, are simply a distraction. And they work very well.
Yeah ive seen her videos before she destroys feminists. She went to a slut walk and was accused of rape because she was filming it lol and they claimed she didn’t ask for their consent to film. Another funny thing is all the feminists at the “slut walk” were so ugly no one would touch them even to rape them
I’m sure the soldiers appreciated having a 63 ton tank to hid behind when they were getting shot at. And i can think of a dozen of different ways an Abrams would be use full against a building full of insurgents
Yes thats a bad weakness how ever most tanks have that weakness. The Abram’s could be somewhat compared to a King tiger in the aspect that is has excellent frontal armour, but has a weak back. Anyway I’m sure the M1a2 or even the M1a1 fixes those issues. The normal m1 is an old tank design now. And there’s talks of the M1a3 coming out in a year or two.
Very few crewmen were actually killed inside of them. In fact more tanks were damaged than, crewman were killed.
Worst idea ever . Bullet magnets . Get well away from it .
The issue they had in Baghdad was the insurgents/Iraqi troops . Being on roofs and high level windows . In a narrow street a tank can’t get its turrent up to aim at them . And dropping the building is a no go because the building has to fall somewhere and when you have a street full of your own men and tanks you increase the risk of killing your own men . So the tank becomes useless .
Then because of the close quarters , air support becomes useless because it’s likely to kill your own men . So the only options is to push out of the kill zone as best as you can .
And with a broken down tank you have huge issues and generally the best option is to ditch it , strip it of any kit and blow it up and pull back .
A very shit situation to be in
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Yes thats a bad weakness how ever most tanks have that weakness. The Abram’s could be somewhat compared to a King tiger in the aspect that is has excellent frontal armour, but has a weak back. Anyway I’m sure the M1a2 or even the M1a1 fixes those issues. The normal m1 is an old tank design now. And there’s talks of the M1a3 coming out in a year or two.
[/quote] yes they fixed that on the A2 thankfully .
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Very few crewmen were actually killed inside of them. In fact more tanks were damaged than, crewman were killed
[/quote] yes indeed but many were badly injured , you were a lot slower reacting to this as we was . After the incident in the chally of the man losing part of his foot we right away upgraded all the tanks to put Doncaster armour on the underside to protect the crew from mine attacks .
But as th MOD said at the time . A big enough bomb can destroy any vehicle
So standing in the open with no cover, is worse than standing behind a bullet proof tank?
Tank shells don’t really collapse buildings. As they are made more to penetrate.
Well ive read a lot of people say the U.S suffers from " large army mentality" and that we are less cautious with our men, but again i read this over the internet.
Now you have changed the situation completely (you love doing that ) . If there Is not other cover then clearly that’s the only option . But in a town your best option is a building or better cover . The enemy would be raining everything they have on the tank so not great to be stood behind it when there are RPG’s and bullets bouncing off it .
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Tank shells don’t really collapse buildings. As they are made more to penetrate
[/quote]depends on the building . If you hit a main supportive part of the building there is every chance it will come down .
Besides as I said the enemy won’t be occupying the first floor they would be on the roof or as high up as possible to give vantage over you .
Remember we are taking about the streets of Baghdad here not open country side so the turrent simply won’t get that high .
Tanks are useless in towns . Common sense really that a tank is built for open country .
Joking ain’t you . Our education system kisses Americas arse . I was taught more American history at school than I was british . Never taught about the British empire yet had to learn about the American civil war .
In the UK we are taught to be ashamed of our history and it pisses me right off . Considering there is so much to our history .
