#6533

Here’s the video of it happening. He was also standing to the side of her, but i don’t think someone this young should have been shooting a full auto, especially an Uzi, because the amount of recoil.

#6534

Didn’t work for this Czech American:

Doležal is one of the most typical Czech surnames.

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#6535

The world has gone mad…

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#6536

Yeah but that’s because she is female, and lied and said she was genetically black.

I don’t intend to deny my Caucasian heritage, but I identify as a black man so society must accept it otherwise they are hypocritical trans-racists.

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#6537

no thats a perfect comparison in terms of the control the adult has of that car .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6530, topic:21032”]
When you’re controlling a car even if you are driving safely it can still turn into a deadly situation. Not so much with a gun.
[/quote] a well organised and well run gun range is a safe place yes . a reckless one which allows children to fire powerful weapons is not a safe place .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6530, topic:21032”]
No the adult is. I always shot with my father kneeling behind me, holding me, and the gun at the same time. He pointed i merely got to pull the trigger.
[/quote] then your father should of been kicked off the range and had the rifle taken off him as clearly he has no respect for the rifle . he did not have control of the weapon kneeling behind you . you had control of that weapon .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6530, topic:21032”]
understood them quite well, since i was introduced to firearms at a young age. I first shot when i was 5. A .410 into an empty field.
[/quote] a .410 is fine i personally wouldnt start a child on that but id say a under 10 could control a .410 well enough .

#6538

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thought you would like this one :slight_smile:

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#6539

Hundreds of people have been diagnosed with cancer in the wake of the attacks, but doctors and researchers are still uncertain whether there is any direct link to 9/11.

that would be because they used a small nuclear device to melt the steel beams in a flash of a second . :slight_smile: a small enough device that the radiation could be contained to ground zero and for only a short period of time :slight_smile:

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#6540

No it’s not. A car is way harder to control than a gun is, we both know this. If the child is control of the gas or brakes, many things can go wrong. They could hit another car, fly off the road ect.

We weren’t at a range, we were in an empty field. Perhaps you could explain why the situation was dangerous? Could the gun hit us, or someone else no. So how exactly is that a dangerous situation???

The only thing my father didn’t do was pull the trigger. I was not in control of the weapon, i was merely in control of when it fired.

.410s have hardly any kick. There was nothing dangerous going on, you just have the British attitude towards guns.

Here guns are not scary death machines, only to be used by governments. I grew up around guns, and i know how to safely handle them, because i was educated early on.

No one in my family has ever had an accident with a fire arm. My brothers were hunting by the time they were 12, and my uncles were hunting at an even earlier age.

#6541

@snejdarek, @Skoruligr what age did you first start shooting?

#6542

#6543

a child could flinch and pull the trigger unexpectedly , and send a round of into who knows what . the adult behind simply would not have the reaction speed to stop that . .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6540, topic:21032”]
We weren’t at a range, we were in an empty field. Perhaps you could explain why the situation was dangerous? Could the gun hit us, or someone else no. So how exactly is that a dangerous situation???
[/quote] person appears at the other end of the field . you as a child dont see this . pull the trigger before your father has time to stop you . the potential for injury in huge . ok its very unlikely . but , expect the unexpected .

but as i said i wouldnt have an issue with a child shooting a .410 .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6540, topic:21032”]
.410s have hardly any kick. There was nothing dangerous going on, you just have the British attitude towards guns.
[/quote] which is why i said id have no issue with a child firing such a gun .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6540, topic:21032”]
you just have the British attitude towards guns.
[/quote] if by this you mean i have common sense then correct .

its about educating the child about guns before letting him enjoy them in a safe manor . .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6540, topic:21032”]
Here guns are not scary death machines, only to be used by governments. I grew up around guns, and i know how to safely handle them, because i was educated early on.
[/quote] im sure ive been around more than you have , i by no means see them as a scaring death machine . i just respect the firearm and appreciate its power .

i first shot a shotgun when i was about 11 (only one or two shots if i remeber correctly however ) and one of my fathers friends house (dads friend was a farmer with a lot of land ) i then shot a lee enfield at 13 with cadets and a L85A1 which is semi-automatic only version of the SA80 a few months later . before i touched any of them (other than the shotgun ) i had to do a "weapons handling " course . where i had to show i was safe and competent operating the weapons before i was allowed to go to the range to fire them

#6544

Thats why you pick a safe un populated area, where you have a long range of visibility. You then make sure it’s safe before you allow them to fire.

Huge open flatlands. Literally impossible for us not to see someone coming from at least two miles.

And if you’re shooting in the woods, just make sure the area is clear before you let the child move in to pull the trigger.

If someone is blundering through the woods towards the sounds of gun fire, then its their own fault they get shot.

The best way to be safe, is to put a target at the base of a hill, then theres almost no chance of shooting someone approaching, because they would be far above the target, and easy to spot.

Did you miss this part?

As i told you i grew up being educated about being safe around fire arms, and i wasn’t allowed to shoot one until i demonstrated i knew how to safely handle an unloaded one.

Your attitude shows differently. I described to you the situation in which i first fired a gun, and you just said it was dangerous, without stating reasons why.

Most people do the same thing here. I know people who were doing their hunter safety in kindergarden.

#6545

Air rifle probably at 6. Rifle a couple of times since 14. But I got to buy my own only at 28. I was quite a lot abroad in Slovenia, Austria, Germany, and I wasn’t sure whether I’ll live here or elsewhere, only after that cleared out I got license and guns.

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#6546

Also a good reason to stress trigger discipline. If you’re not ready to fire, keep your finger away from the trigger. If you can get them to understand this, then you can avoid accidents like that from happening.

#6547

Do you think that a child under 13, can be taught to operate a fire arm safely, under extremely close adult super vision?

#6548

I think that our sport shooter’s association starts at ages younger than 12 with guns on flobert rounds. 12 is usually change to rimfire and 15 change to centerfire (that is also the age you can legally get license and own firearm, although not CC).

But otherwise, under supervision, sure. I think the kid needs to learn basics about gun safety at 6 at the latest if you have firearms in your home. Sure, their primary place should be in safe, but that doesn’t exclude possibility of kid getting to one eventually.

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#6549

I taught that to my GF so thoroughly that when we were on defensive shooting class last year, the instructor told she has the best trigger discipline he has ever seen :slight_smile:

That’s her second from the right:

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#6550

I have seen 911 debunking sites that claim that its the displaced air pressure traveling down the elevator shafts causing it.

Supposedly it blows out a each floor.

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#6551

But for that to happen wouldn’t there have to be an air tight seal in the towers? And why wouldn’t it blow out the whole floor. In that picture it’s only blowing out one section…

#6552

then i have no issues with how you was brought up . my opinion is unchanged however , no child should be firing a proper weapon . a simply little .410 shotgun or .22 rifle at the most to learn the basics

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6544, topic:21032”]
Your attitude shows differently. I described to you the situation in which i first fired a gun, and you just said it was dangerous, without stating reasons why.
[/quote]no i did not . my first response to hearing your situation with the .410

this was my reaction before reading , under the impression you was allowed to fire a proper rifle .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:6546, topic:21032”]
Also a good reason to stress trigger discipline. If you’re not ready to fire, keep your finger away from the trigger. If you can get them to understand this, then you can avoid accidents like that from happening.
[/quote] easy for you to say at the age of 18 , a 5 year old is not going to be as sharp .