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here everything is down the officers discretion . most prefer to "educate " rather than simply punish .

but the rule of thumb is if you’re caught doing double the limit they will give you a courts summons for dangerous driving .

ive been pulled over doing 130 on the motorway before at about 2 in the morning by a unmarked police car . but as the road was basically empty he told me to calm it down and sent me on my way .

im always respectful to them and generally they are back and never had any problems . the moment you get out and start swearing at them , they will go over your car top to bottom and do you for every possible ticket.

generally i cruise at 110 ish on the motorway (limit is 70 ) and dont get many issues , but i do enough driving to know what motorways (highways ) you can get away with it and what ones have all the cameras

Well ive never been pulled over luckily. But every time i see a cop on the road i start getting nervous, you never know if something as simple as getting pulled over can turn deadly.

Ive been with family members when they’ve gotten pulled over though. Even when you’re respectful the cop always seems pissed and ready to snap at you. Police are taught here to treat every citizen as a potential threat.

My brother and his friend were pulled over once because the car had a break light out. They got out of the ticket because my brothers friend started acting gay towards the cop. When he asked for the license and registration my brothers friend said “anything for you handsome man”. :smile: The cop let them off the hook after that, and was apparently very creeped out.

long read but a good one from the mayor of london after Benedict Cumberbatch (actor ) gave a big rant on stage how we should taking loads more refugees.

It’s madness to take on Benedict Cumberbatch, I know: he’s popular, talented, a landmark of our culture. He has legions of fans, many of them female, some of them in my immediate family, and some so fanatical that they apparently style themselves “Cumberbitches” and patrol the Twittersphere, ready to plunge their electronic machetes into anyone who disses the great man, rather like the lethal Amazonian bodyguard of Muammar Gaddafi.
So I am grateful that I wasn’t there in the audience the other night when Cumberbatch rounded off a performance of Hamlet with a stirring extempore soliloquy, on the failure of this country to take more Syrian refugees. “F––– the politicians!” he cried, to wild audience acclaim. I am glad I wasn’t around because I think – or at least I hope – that I might have shouted “rubbish”, or at least murmured some feeble dissent in a voice loud enough to provoke my neighbours.
Indeed, if I had been thinking quickly, and full of truly suicidal bravery, I would have mounted the stage myself – and offered a speech in reply. In an ideal world, someone should have challenged that audience of exhilarated bien-pensant Londoners. Someone should have responded to the great actor, and this is what he or she should have said. Come off it, folks. Yes, of course we must do everything we reasonably can to help those who are genuinely in fear of persecution and fleeing for their lives. We should certainly receive those for whom Britain is their only hope of safety, and David Cameron has done the right thing in pledging to bring 20,000 of the most vulnerable from the camps in the area.
And yet the truth is that there are many millions now on the move, not because they are necessarily in immediate fear for their lives, but because they are in search of economic betterment for themselves and their families. That is a noble ambition. No one can be faulted for seeking a better future. The question is, how many should we take – bearing in mind the impacts both on the countries of destination, and the countries of origin, which are being steadily denuded of talented workers.
It might have been instructive to put that question to the audience, once they had calmed down. If 20,000 is too little, what is the right number for Britain? Cumberbatch spoke of 11 million refugees from Syria. How many should we take, in all decency? 200,000? Half a million? I think at that point there might have been a certain amount of shuffling in their seats. Some people might have discovered some fascinating and overlooked detail in their theatre programmes.
The truth is that good people are capable of two inconsistent desires in their hearts. They are perfectly capable of being simultaneously indignant at the slowness of politicians to take more migrants fleeing Middle Eastern war zones, and alarmed at the failure of politicians to cope with the consequences of the rapid and unforeseen growth in UK population. As we learnt last week, the population of this country is set to grow by another 4.4 million just in the next 10 years. It is going to hit 74.3 million by 2039 – 80 million by 2050.
That is an astonishing change, when you consider that Britain was only about 54 million when I was born. This boom is in many ways a compliment to this country – the most dynamic economy in Europe, the place people want to be, where ambitious and energetic people can see a future for themselves. And yet you could not argue that this fundamental change represents the settled will of the British people – and especially not when 51 per cent of that demographic expansion is to be caused by immigration.
The reason people get so aerated about this issue is that they feel politicians have somehow tricked them. First there was the Labour Party that decided in the late 1990s to take the brakes off immigration, and to turn a blind eye to illegals, for the utterly cynical reason that they believed that immigrants were more likely to vote Labour. That conspiracy, for obvious reasons, was not explained to the public at the time, though some Labour people have since fessed up.
Then there has been the general failure of government since to get a grip on the numbers – in spite of repeated promises to do so. It is a painful truth that we said we could cap immigration in the “tens of thousands”; and yet this year alone we have had net immigration at 330,000. It is no wonder, when you have your natural fecundity rate turbo-charged in this way, that we have been struggling to catch up with the homes and the transport infrastructure that we need.
Now, I am not remotely pessimistic about our future, and with care and imagination we should be able to find the space. For all the talk of a Northern Powerhouse, Manchester is still a third smaller than it was in 1931. And I am not sure that we want the opposite problem – a falling population. In Japan they are going to plummet, over the same period, from 125 million to 90 million. They buy more nappies for old people than for babies, and have more pet dogs than kids under 15. People understand the problem of an ageing population, and the need to pay for pensions and to keep the economy moving; indeed, most people are prepared to support some level of immigration, provided it is controlled.
But it feels at the moment as if there is a giant plot – abetted by big business and tacitly supported by the forecasters in the Treasury – to use the excuse of EU rules to keep immigration beyond democratic control, so that the numbers keep rising, and so British companies get the skills they need; and all the while politicians can limply claim there is nothing they can do, except perhaps for some misguided and counter-productive restrictions on student visas. It won’t wash. There may be a case for immigration; there is no case for a lack of control. Cumberbatch was right to bash us politicians – but not for the reasons he gave.

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i get like that when they pull up beside me :slight_smile: i dont know where too look because i can feel them checking me out :slight_smile:

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Well ive never been pulled over luckily. But every time i see a cop on the road i start getting nervous, you never know if something as simple as getting pulled over can turn deadly.

Ive been with family members when they’ve gotten pulled over though. Even when you’re respectful the cop always seems pissed and ready to snap at you. Police are taught here to treat every citizen as a potential threat.
[/quote] i have been pulled over about 4 times , mostly for speeding :slight_smile: never received a ticket though somehow .

although one was because they thought i was a drug dealer . as apparently a man of my age driving a car i was at the time (audi A5 ) was a bit odd . i was driving through a rough area however .

but they were pretty open with the reason and had a laugh and a joke with me checked my details against my registration to make sure it was mine and sent me on my way

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How many immigrants is that ass hat going to personally house? Good read btw

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Yeah and you’re thinking the whole time “don’t fuck up, don’t fuck up” :smile:

Ive never been pulled over :sunglasses:

Was this you?

“Totally being honest” :smile:

@TheDivineInfidel

London’s getting hotter and hotter… Interesting thing is that these Scorpions were the gun of choice of thugs in Central, Eastern and Southern Europe in early 1990s, but I haven’t heard about their use at least in the Czech Republic for quite some time.

I guess that the Libyan stockpiles must be getting to UK in really large numbers now. Let’s hope that the tens of tons of unmarked SEMTEX we delivered to Libya after end of Vietnam war (there was a huge cargo ship full of it bound for Vietnam but war ended there while it was on route so it was redirected) don’t get to wrong hands too…

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Very easy to smuggle with there size I guess , I’d imagine mainland Europe will see an increase from what the refungees are bringing in from all these war zones .

A lot of our shootings are with shotguns . Stolen from gun owners etc . Had one the other week , a specialist armed crime squard raided a house and one of the criminals did a runner and a unarmed detective gave chase , the bloke turned round and fired off a shotgun round in the officers direction and hit him partially . (He survived )

He didn’t get far before he was cornered by armed police and arrested .

I don’t think so. Czech volunteers are basically the only ones providing effective aid on the Serbian-Croatian and Croatian-Slovenian borders (in hundreds of Czechs now) and from what I’ve read following their accounts, I can’t imagine anyone would carry firearms for whatever purpose.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.810299335753564.1073741839.750390391744459&type=1

And for those terrorists among them (and there surely are some among the hundreds of thousands) it will be much cheaper and more convenient to just buy them on black market on the Brussels main train station (as did the Charlie Hebdo terrorists as well as the clumsy train terrorist stopped by the US soldiers on TGV) than carrying them and risking they will be caught somewhere on the way with a bag full of Skorpions.

Skorpions go legally for about €150 here, and about ten times that price on black market. Possibly less if you decide to buy in Brussels instead of Prague :wink:

(Yes, there is “purchase” button on the page and I can buy it right now and have it delivered to my home tomorrow - just that the licensed seller will check my gun license and purchase permit between doors).

FYI the Skorpion was designed mainly as a sidearm for pilots and tank crews who are not expected to fight in the field but may need it to get out of a dire situation when they leave their plane/helicopter/tank and are trying to reach own units. The gun has basically no recoil even on full auto which makes it the favorite of mafia since their personnel can be highly effective with it even if they have no firearms training.

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Huh, I talk Scorpions and I see that the new one is right now the NRA’s gun of the week! :slight_smile:

Unfortunately the imbecile US import laws make it PISTOL instead of SBR in US.

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Damn the U.K having full auto crime, we haven’t had that since the North Hollywood shoot-out in the early 90s and those were illegal. In fact in the past 80 years only two people have been murdered by legally obtained full autos.

I don’t envy the countries where the people can’t carry fire arms for self defence. They will be in trouble soon.

Czech nationalists started decorating road signs to Germany.

The sign in Arabic reads “GERMANY”.

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i would disagree , a vast majority of the migrants are fighting age men , in the hundreds of thousands many have not been searched at any point . any terror cell with a finger out of its arse will be taking full advantage of that situation and smuggling in as much as possible .

as the British intelligence agencies are currently screaming about as our many other nations homeland security branches .

and the media these days doesnt like reporting on anything deemed to make these "innocent " scared refugees look bad because it hurts their sympathy campaign .

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full auto crime ? someone didnt read the article :slight_smile: was semi-auto

At approximately 12:25am a semi-automatic firearm was discharged in the vicinity, causing damage to the front of the car and to surrounding street furniture.

somethings never change :slight_smile:

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "The suspect is described as a black male, believed aged in his late teens or early 20s, of slim build and wearing dark clothing.

so all this talking of knives has made me buy myself one for no apparent reason .

just ordered a KA-BAR
an 8" one . i have zero use for it but it will look good on one of my shelves and can be used if any silly bastard tries breaking in

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I know I’ve already said it, but if I needed something for HD and firearm wasn’t an option, I’d go for tactical tomahawk.

http://www.teraasekeskus.com/images/extra/WaltherTacticalTomahawk1.jpg

Oh, i read sub machine gun and thought full auto.

Not to mention the damn media says every shooting involves a full auto machine gun, :smile:

This is true. :smile: