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It doesn’t matter what you pay for for the final product (incl. taxes), what matters is what kind of money Saudis can get for crude oil.

Interesting, still an exception though I’m sure.

Just making an observation. But seriously don’t you Euros pay 11 bucks a gallon?

4.18 bucks per gallon if I’m counting it right. ($ 1.1 per liter).

Damn, the highest i can remember ever getting in my state is like 3 bucks a gallon, and it’s usually more expensive in my state.

Here something like 70% of the price of petrol is tax . Fucking piss take but prices are low here compared to normal (about £0.98 litre )

I think Obama was trying to push something like that through and it would have made gas ten times more expensive, pretty sure it failed thank god. If gas got too expensive it would seriously fuck up my life.

Gas hasn’t been this cheap here since i was a toddler. I can remember my mother paying for gas with some coins we found in the couch cushions. :smile:

@TheDivineInfidel @snejdarek

I think this is the first guy to get a confirmed kill with a spoon.

Ive been stuck watching time travel videos that i know are fake, halp.

Offer is still on the table @snejdarek.

@TheDivineInfidel

If the money is right, I will be buying AR 15 for Christmas, I plan to put north of €2.500 into it (incl. scope and red dot sights and few other perks).

Now, given that I have next to no experience with shooting rifles (I don’t count renting one at range now and then and running 30 rounds through it)…

What would you say is the better way to master the rifle basics?

CZ 455 Varmint bolt action .22LR with heavy barrel, scope and bipod?

OR

vz.58 semi-auto (just sights, no scope).

The price for each is about the same, I would be buying new for about € 500.

If you order the parts, and put it together your self, you can get a decked out mil spec ar for around 600 (500 euros) U.S dollars with all the bells and whistles.

Customizing AR 15 in Europe is about as easy as customizing a vz.58 in the US. Desirable, but pain in the ass and next to impossible.

I will be buying Czech, either PAR MK3 or VAR. They are up there in quality with the absolute top echelon but for about a third of the price.

BTW finding a seller that would let us shoot Ruger LCR before buying it has proven impossible.

Actually most are sold out and waiting for mid-March delivery to stock up. We are going to IWA in two weeks so unless we see something else there we will buy LCR as CC for my GF in March.

Why is that? Are there really no European companies that manufacture tactical gear?

For some reason the websites want me to confirm that i have a fire arms license.

Start with the VZ.58 and get used to shooting a longer weapon . To many people just jump to a longer range weapon and want to shoot from 1000 yards before they can even get a decent grouping at 100 yards with a basic rifle .

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I’m voting for him now.

@thedivineinfidel

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Until last year when the buying frenzy started (Czech gun owners bought 50K guns which would be equal to Americans buying 25 millions new guns) http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=797574 a new vz.58 costed €200. They now go for double that price but I guess you can imagine it is quite hard to tap the semi-auto rifle market when the most sought after rifle is this cheap.

Don’t forget this is the rifle Czech Army was using in Afghanistan until 2014 and soldiers were more than happy with them, despite the age of the design. Slovak army still has them as primary weapon.

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worst comparison ever .

That’s like comparing the us federal government not wanting Texas to declare independence to the federal government not wanting to be ruled by Mexico.

Plus the United Kingdom is run on the basis of a free democracy and parliament …the EU is not

Sorry, but this comparison makes no sense either. I’m guessing the fed would represent the EU in this case, and Texas Britain. But if the federal government represents the EU in this example, then who does Mexico represent?

If the U.K is truly telling other countries to stay in the EU, then that is highly hypocritical, especially if it’s as bad as you claim.