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#10597

BTW I have a German friend who is into knives, guns, he even teaches self defense classes. He’s got about 16 firearms and shitload of knives.

In his sport shooting club (you need to be a member of a club in order to get through red tape in Germany) most people say they wouldn’t use their firearms (which must be at all times locked in safe and the government sends police periodically to check it into your house) in self defense no matter what.

He is scared to talk out loud his pro-self-defense opinion because the club chief must sing off on any of his future gun purchases and he is afraid he wouldn’t do so if he voices his mind.

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#10598

The kind of shit i hear come out of Germany these days utterly amazes me.

Speaking of guns, my father got his FFL license so I’m going to try and get a job this summer and scrape together 500 bucks so he can build me a sweet custom Ar.

#10599

To add insult to injury, it is not just a common gun shooting club, it is military reservists shooting club.

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#10600

What kind of job typically pays what kind of money where you live?

#10601

Well there are a ton of fast food places around where i live and those almost always pay minimum wage (8 bucks an hour) there are two grocery stores within a 10 mile radius of my house which is where i would ideally like to work, and they pay around 10 dollars an hour.

#10602

A quick search found a job offer at McDonalds for $ 3.70 in a small town near Prague, I guess it would be around $ 6 in Prague.

I expected the difference to be higher, especially given that here you get full health insurance coverage.

From my student years experience, the most pleasant work was in construction. I especially enjoyed digging holes out in the open, less so working within buildings. Working as cashier in Tesco was also fine - especially night shifts (it was open 24/7). The worst of the worst was bakery. The heat and monotony (checking up to 160.000 pieces of croissants on the line a day) was killing me.

#10603

Damn, the cost of living must be really low in your country.[quote=“snejdarek, post:10602, topic:21032”]
Working as cashier in Tesco was also fine - especially night shifts (it was open 24/7).
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I think if i had to work night shifts at a gas station i would want to have a pistol, but sadly i can’t own one till I’m 21.

Maybe i could get a job painting houses, although i still have nightmares from painting my own house last summer. I actually talked with a painter and he said we were crazy for trying to paint the whole things by ourselves with roll brushes.

#10604

i dont think its so much the idea of someone owning a gun its more the way the american attuide comes across .

like your all gun totalling maniacs with your tops of waving around ridiculous amounts of weapons screaming "USA ! USA ! "

example ! ask @snejdarek what he carries for self defence in terms of a gun and its a small compact pistol , fair enough not many would have an issue but then ask that question to an american and most would picture the yank screaming about how he carries 3 different assault rifles 2 revolvers and a .50 cal machine gun just in case just to get his morning paper .

thats the image your portrayed as over here , hence why we think your all hill billy 3 tooth Donald trumps :smile:

#10605

Well criminality here is really low compared to US. Even gas station stints are not that dangerous.

The Tesco I worked at was a large grocery supermarket with own security. Security’s only issue was keeping drunk homeless out, not gun slinging.

I think you could rent a two bedroom appartment for $250 in that town.

#10606

Feel free to look through those comments, tons are Europeans saying “Why do you feel the need to own guns” or “guns are death machines that kill people”.

Well then that’s just plain ignorance on your behalf. People do not just waltz around with Ars, you’re probably referring to an open carry demonstration. Those people do not normally go out with their rifles it was simply for a protest.

#10607

you have tesco ! i thought that was only a british thing :smile:

#10608

i know that but im just telling you how the US is portrayed . most think Americans are thick and ignorant .

#10609

thats because not many here feel the need or desire to own firearms , its not in our culture . where as in the US you associate freedom with gun ownership

#10610

Well all i can say to that is I’m glad we separated from Europe 200 years ago. For people who have had some of the most brutal genocides in history (all carried out by their governments) a lot of you people seem to love relying on the state.

Perhaps you could answer my why Europeans are so interested in our politics. I mean we never hear jack shit about your issues on the news, but it seems to me that all your news reports are the things wrong with our country. The only time i ever hear about European politics is from the troll cave.

I’m legitimately curious.

#10611

Can’t say how common gas station robberies are where i live ( crime is really low in the area i live) but nearly every CC video i see that takes place in the U.S it happens in a gas station.

#10612

its not about relying on our government its simply not on our minds . its a non-issue . the fear of needing a gun or any weapon here is simply alien . we have no such fears walking down the street or going to work/school . regardless of any stat you could pull up its simply not on our minds as a majority .

hence why @snejdarek comes across as a bit weird to people here .
if his first thoughts on going on a day out is what weapon he can carry .

"theres a lovely restaurant in that town should we go ? looks good but can i take my glock in ? "
the idea of that is just fucking odd to people here even though to @snejdarek its completely normal and justified in him feeling safe and "dressed "

maybe you could answer my question as to why your president feels the need to lecture me on how i should vote in the EU referendum ? and why he feels the need to come all the way to the UK in a few months time and do a big speech on why i should vote to stay in a lose my national identity and freedom ?

#10613

Let’s just say that armed robberies do sometimes happen at gas stations here, but shooting a clerk is unheard of.

#10614

Well it is about relying on your government for protection. The general consensus in Europe seems to be that only the government can be trusted with guns, despite everything that has occurred within the last century alone.

Well you already know my views on my president so ill say nothing further there. But i was talking more about the average European not politician. It seems to me like most Europeans are interested in American politics, i see many actively arguing about our issues online just like in the comment section of that video.

And what Obama does in our countries is rarely reported on here, the average American just doesn’t care about what goes on in Europe, but it seems every European and their mother is obsessed with debating Americans about their rights.

And that is a bit rich of you to complain about Obama lecturing you on the EU, when we had a Brit over here for years, who even had his own T.V actively trying to discredit the 2nd amendment.

How do you think brits would react if an American got his own show on the BBC, and started preaching about how Britain needs to stay in the EU. I think Obama should mind his own fucking business and go fuck himself, but i would like Europeans to do with same when it comes to my rights.

#10615

I’d say shooting a clerk is pretty unheard of there too, because a lot generally seem to be armed. :wink:

#10616

Well both legally and technically, I can carry whatever I can effectively conceal. It is actually surprising how small of an issue it is once you get used to being armed. It is about as much trouble as having an extra mobil phone. Just that mobile phone is not helpful in situation when a firearm is needed.

In past two years, I have once had to reach for my gun (dogs), once I was extremely satisfied with having both the gun as well as spare mag while the need to actually reach for it didn’t materialize (14 drunk football hooligans in train carriage insulting people) and just this Saturday I was glad I did have it on me too (a man was chasing a girl on the street in the night, I got to them when he caught her… only to find out it was public transport inspector chasing a free rider).

The way I look at it is that I have only one life to live. I have the freedom to decide to be armed or disarmed. Chances are that I won’t ever need to use a gun. But as long as Czech Republic is not on par with 1970s Switzerland where they had literally zero crime (bar the occasional intra-marital fights or bank frauds), I prefer to be safe than sorry.

Gun is like a parachute. When you need one and don’t have any, you won’t ever need it again.

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