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What exactly is funny about that?

I don’t really know, it just made me laugh. I think it was the name queer parade, and it reminded me of this.

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It was pain in the ass but I finally found a local gun shop that is supposed to get a Ruger LCR from the next shipment and which hasn’t been reserved yet.

Meanwhile I found a friend of a friend who claims that it’s recoil is significantly more felt than from Glock 43, which would defeat the purpose. He would let us shoot it but he is 400 kms away.

I think we will buy it anyway once it arrives, but it kind makes me doubt the choice.

@prometheus

watch it all . amazing video

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What’s so amazing about it? Call my cynical but I am unmoved by this.

Also, “surviving slavery”. As far as I understand slaves had quite a value in US, so in general, their survival was in the masters’ economical interest. I don’t think that “surviving slavery” is some achievement, unless we talk about mediteranean muslim pirate ships in the middle ages, where the average survival rate was about 2-3 months. (In my favorite book on the topic, the author describes slaves as a commodity on par with today’s motor boat oil - most of the raids in which millions of French and Italians were enslaved at the coast were actually in order to have fresh manpower for the ships, less so for other spoils).

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he is more getting at the fact that people have been through all of these tragedies and then others wont even revise for an exam . he is not coming at it has a historical point its more of an expression to emphasize that the young black community should be grateful for what they have in todays day and age compared to what they did have . opportunity wise .

depends what you take from it . personally that particular part does nothing for me because i cant relate to that feeling being a white individual . but i enjoy these sorts of videos , im quite deep and motivated so i can zone out and listen quite well and relate it to me working towards my own goal in life .

Yo, we wanted you to feel safe so we put a cleric into da statistic.

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I was not really moved by the speech either, how ever I’m kind of made of stone when it comes to things like this. :smile: I did repsect though, how he didn’t once bring up “white privilege” or any of that nonsense aside from the slavery comment. He actually tried to encourage these kids something more successful blacks should be doing, instead of playing the race card.

Compare his speech to the one Michelle Obama gave to those collage students, hers was negative and all she pretty much did was tell the kids that they have no chance due to the colour of their skin, his was pretty much the polar opposite. Because when it comes down to it, they need encouragement not some ass hat telling them they’re oppressed and have no chance in the world.

Not to mention none of those people in that room were ever enslaved :wink: That would be like calling my self a survivor because some my ancestors immigrated to America during the potato famine in Ireland.

An outsider started liking my posts, We have been breached! lol

I have to stop posting in this thread the activity shows up on my profile, being a moderator I am more likely to be looked up.

Same lol, @Prometheus don’t be shy come out of the shadows. :smile:

I’m afraid that’s not going to happen my friend, the Troll cave isn’t done with you yet. (please get the show reference)

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/65436941.jpg

I figured you would love the show I’m talking about since it has tons of like vision questy stuff in it. Does a black smoke monster ring a bell?

What show?

Dammit, i just edited my post giving you a really broad hint. Me and my edits.

The show lost?

Correct ding ding. In all seriousness i don’t think it was you posting that lead him here, he was liking my posts in the “What weapons do you own thread” and it has tons of links to the Troll cave in there. Because when i go to your profile none of your troll cave posts show up. Same goes for the other trolls.

Oh and were you a fan of lost?

first few seasons, they dragged it out, and during the writers strike the plot went to shit.

You may regret asking me to come out of the shadows once you get to know me better! Actually, I always check out any gun topics, as I am a staunch defender of the Second Amendment in the U.S. I started on the topic about what weapons we possess and finally linked here. I do enjoy my guns, and have been a shooter, hunter and reloader for a very long time. I started hunting birds, mostly Bobwhite Quail, with my father at age eight, using a single shot H&R 410 shotgun. My father bought me my first deer rifle for Christmas when I was eleven. It was a Remington 660 bolt action carbine in 308 Winchester (7.62 NATO) caliber, which I used to kill my first buck deer a couple of years later. My Father made me carry the (unloaded) rifle around with me for for a week–in the house and outside too, as we lived on a rural farm. His reason for “making” me carry the gun around was to make me very aware of where the muzzle was pointed at all times. He also told me if he even once saw the muzzle cover a person, unloaded or not, he would take the rifle back instantly.

I literally grew up with guns. I am 55 and my Father is a WWII Navy vet and spent his time during the war in the south Pacific. He had a four-gun gun rack on the wall, and it held his four long guns–a Winchester Model 12 pump 12 gauge shotgun, a Remington Targetmaster bolt action single shot 22 rifle, a Remington 742 semi-auto rifle in 30-06 Springfield, and a Japanese 7.7 Arisaka bolt action he brought back as a souvenir from the war. The guns were not locked up, and we all knew the Model 12 stayed fully loaded. The guns were not a mystery because my father always made it plain that if we wanted to look at one of them, all we had to do was ask. He would make sure it was unloaded and let us look all we wanted. We also knew we damn well better never touch one without asking him first as well, but because we could see them any time, the temptation to sneak one of them was nonexistent.

When people talk to me about gun controls, I always tell them my Father’s story. My Father was born in 1923 and grew up during the Great Depression. Like most kids then, he walked to school. This is sometimes hard for some people to believe, but when he was in the third grade he and most of the other boys carried their 22 rifles to school with them. When they got to school, the teacher just stacked their rifles in the corner of the class room, not locked up, just propped in the corner. The kids still had their ammo in their pockets all day long at school. Most of them had very sharp pocket knives too. But not a single person ever got shot or stabbed.

So what was different then than it is now? One thing you can be sure of–if something changes, the change is not caused by a constant factor. Guns were just as available then (if not more so) than they are now, so the availability of guns would have to be considered (at least) a constant factor. It is not the availability of guns that makes a person decide to take a human life; but rather, it seems to be a lack of respect for human life that makes being fired from a job (or rejected by a crush, or a hundred other trivial occurrences) reason enough to kill someone.

Here in the U.S., we have two very good historical examples from which to draw conclusions about how regulation/prohibition fail miserably at stopping people from getting what they want. The Prohibition of Alcohol in the 1930s and the so-called “War on drugs” that has gone on for decades shows the futility of trying to regulate or prohibit something the people really want. In both cases, the only thing that happened was the creation of a huge and lucrative black market, with increases in violence that come from organized crime. Despite the spending of billions of dollars, the hard work of tens of thousands of law enforcement officers, and the many thousands of people incarcerated as a deterrent, I could still walk out in any city in this nation and get any kind of illegal drug I wanted in an hour or less. And that is for a ‘consumable’ item that must be constantly replenished. There are already as many guns in the U.S. as there are people, and most any quality gun will still be working just fine a hundred years after it was made.

There is much more to be said, but I must leave it at that for tonight!

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I think that the Hollywood death cult has a lot to do with it. In American cinema, death and brutality is dealt with a something casual, murder is not something to shy away from. Meanwhile sex and nudity is absurdly pushed away from the screen.

And then there are the media with all their glorification of murderers. The guy who shot up a pub in the Czech Republic last year would certainly not sign his profile by media. Basically all we learned was that he was a deranged psychopath who was spitting on people. We never got to see his picture. If he wanted to make any statement by the act, it never got public. In US, meanwhile, you get this:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CCH-_2628y8/hqdefault.jpg

Now, a movie about the largest Czech mass murderer has been made. I am a bit worried that it might move some psycho to try to “make a name” for himself. Here’s trailer (put subtitles on):

But still, US is probably better than Norway given the way he is treated there (not to mention getting 21 years for murdering 70 people).

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@sirwarriant

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

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