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we have plenty of idiots to do them jobs dont worry . besides im not saying no uneducated immigrants it more about our ability to choose

india 
 we can afford to pay more and offer better conditions . on the flip side these people often send money home to their families etc so we win and india also wins . as long as its on a controlled level

i employ a lad who is a year younger than me . he got a first at university in economics . he works alongside me and if im honest works alot harder than i do :smile: i have no degree 
 i earn roughly simply on salary here so not including any assets and investments about 5x his wage .

uni is not everything .

It seems like the only thing you’re guaranteed to get out of collage now a days is an STD and crippling debt.

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If you don’t see the contradiction in your own argument, then I am afraid there is nothing I can add to the discussion to move it forward.

Biology is a high school class, I don’t think there are “biology” degrees anywhere (maybe apart from teacher prep).

Be specific. Did he study a meaningful program? Was it a good school? Was he a good student?

It is kind of difficult to imagine him not being able to find a job if all the three aforementioned were fulfilled.

Isn’t that what the degree is aimed at?

To be fair my cousin just finished master’s at physiotherapy and she is complaining at the tiny wage she has as a hospital therapist. I told her to go on her own, make a client base and start earning more, but hey, that is a risk not many are willing to make (based on what I pay to my private therapist, she should be able to earn the hospital’s month salary in a good week on her own).

I can do hard work and I can do nature and I can do horse shit.

But manning public bathrooms or picking rotten shit from plastic waste on the line, fuck that.

Well the solution would be to send them all home.

And hire locals for triple the salary.

Then go near bankruptcy for not being able to compete with foreign imports.

So its time to ban imports and keep the triple salaries.

Which leads to triple prices to consumers.

Which leads to consumers buying less.

Which leads to layoffs.

Which leads to people willing to work for much less just to keep the meager job in economy going to shit.

I am not saying you need to do social suicide the way UK did it in the past several decades (and it was their own policy, not EU’s fault), but going all Trump on immigration will not help you in the long run.

Well I much prefer an Ukrainian lady to clean my office properly and well while I pay some money to subside some local idiot’s social housing rather than having him fuck up my office doing clean up.

That is a common misconception that you can leave low paid jobs to local idiots, but if that was true for the most parts, someone who comes from a country far away, has no connections and doesn’t speak the language would not be able to get the job in the first place.

I am not saying someone can’t be successful without one, but unless that person is a dumbfuck (and universities are full of those according to my experience gained while studying 3 unis in 3 countries), Uni will be helpful to their further career.

i disagree . locals are generally more expensive however and often more clued up on the employment laws . someone who cant speak the language and has no family in the country is easy to exploit

Why don’t you tell me how I’m contradicting myself.

He went to of the two big collages in my state, CSU which is supposed to be a good school, he was an A student (literally all he did was study for four years straight). He wants to be a doctor, he had a science major, i remember he took Chemistry, and got to dissect a human body in one class. I honestly don’t know what it was exactly we don’t talk much but ill ask him about it next time i see him. He was apparently taking some of the hardest classes you can possibly take. He’s going back to get his masters in a year or two (on the advice of my great uncle who’s a doctor).

Because he lacks experience, he was applying at hospitals( i guess he needs experience working there to get into med school), and he couldn’t even get a job doing simple paper work. He had an interview at the local grocery store a few days ago, but that was after he had been applying at places for months, all the while he was pissed that he just spend thousands of dollars and four years of non stop studying, and is struggling to even get a minimum wage job.

And he’s not the only one, all his friends, all my cousins, everyone says it’s a bitch to get a job despite having degrees. Hell even my father who is immensely qualified is having a hard time getting a job.

I think, but getting a teaching job is insanely hard, so it’s not too surprising.

Well i think that is a you problem.

Trump is only proposing enforcing our current immigration law, so I’m not sure what you mean by this.

Doesn’t this prove my point? That it’s money not lack of work ethic from the locals that causes companies to hire immigrants.

what does he have other than a degree ? from an employer’s prospective most people have degrees these days and especially if he is applying for jobs to lead to a role as a doctor . you need something else to make you stand out . military service is of course a good one but other things as well clubs etc something that says he has some get up and go not just a book worm . ohh and dont act a boring cunt no one wants to work with a boring cunt

so today is the day, huh?

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Why do you have the ridiculous lines to vote everywhere? Would it be so hard to open more voting places?

There are 3-4 in my general area, I’m going to go in soon to avoid potential lines, this will be my first time voting, but i haven’t heard any of my family members complain about super long lines.

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( i know you’re a wh40k fan so you’ll get the reference)

Even if he losses, this election has done a good job shedding light on how fucking corrupt of a nation we’ve become. No one will ever trust the main stream news again.

I’m not going to able to fucking sleep till it’s over, ive never been this stressed over an election. Every time i get optimistic i just remember this “It’s not the vote that counts, it’s who counts the votes that matter”.

I like WH40k but I know actually really little about lore

Well that picture shows the God Emporer of man kind killing the dragon, which is a ctan (necron gods)

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i suppose i should read some books

There is much speculation weather or not Trump is the God emporer. The Emporer watched humanity from the shadows guiding it. But when an age of strife came about (like we are in now) he revealed himself to the world and united humanity and led them in a glorious galactic conquest.

Yeah the lore is insanely in depth, when i read about it feel like I’m reading non fictional events.

This is a good video, i recommend you start with this one.

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