Troll cave II

First phone call regarding ISIS

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I knew this was coming, it’s a good thing no one is buying their horse shit.

Apparently he’s unable to grasp Democracy, and can’t grasp why his propaganda failed.

“It’s all because of racism and sexism”

I hope him and his band of dingle berries fuck off to Canada.

i dont really think it is about propaganda… they just dont want to have an jackass for president.

Which I can understand as we do have one jackass as president too. And he wants get into Putins ass too.

Propaganda is reporting only one side, and being biased, which is what Colbert is he is a lying piece of shit, and he just can’t grasp why all his efforts of lying and bashing trump failed.

Trump- " We should try to have peaceful relations with Russia "

Media (and you) “HOLY FUCK, HE JUST SAID HE LOVED PUTIN, HE JUST SAID HE IS GOING TO SELL EASTERN EUROPE TO PUTIN, HE IS A KGB AGENT.”

I seem to recall you slavs were sucking off Obama pretty hard when he got elected, and he said the cold war was over and that we should move on with Russia. Hypocrites.

Didnt he said he admires him?

Anyway, being in peaceful relations with russia is a good thing, but being in peaceful relations NO MATTER WHAT is not good. Let’s see what Trump will do.

I am not saying that he will necessarily do the wrong decisions, but that is THE problem of Trump, isnt it? That you dont know what he does as he never had a political carrier.
Thats what Doc is saying all the time, Hillary is more predictable and Trump isn’t.

I must say I am really glad Trump won. because he is a change, and I am excited what will future years bring…

now go fuck yourself… this is not about revenge this is pure fear of another decades under the red hand of comunism or whatever pleague Putin wants to bring here.

He said Putin is smart, and that he has completely outmaneuvered Obama at every turn. Which is the truth, you can hate Putin all you want but the man is very smart and cunning.

The media is trying to make it seem like Putin and Trump are best friends, which is garbage.

Trump has been consistent in his views for over 30 years. Hillary meanwhile out right destroyed the most prosperous country in Africa, and was responsible for starting an international migrant crisis, but yeah sure, Trump is the loose cannon who is unpredictable.

Hillary mean while has flip flopped on nearly every one of her views within the last 8 years alone.

No u

Your fear is irrational, and it is dangerous. Russia is not going to invade any NATO nation, because the world would literally end. The best way to cool things down with Russia is to have friendly ties with them.

If Russia turns aside our offers of friendship and cooperation, then fine, we did all we could to resolve things peacefully. But we should at least try don’t you think?

I get why you’re afraid of Russia, and in your place i probably would be too, I’m sorry for what i just said but i don’t want another cold war.

Well… I would agree in some kind. But I would describe it in a different way. Hillary only has one view: become president.
She wanted to become president so badly, she don´t have own ideas. She just tries to be the biggest sellout to companies while trying shine in the right light before voters. She knows that she can´t share every opinion, but she tries to make that possible “break down barriers” - “stronger together” - “avoid content”, thats Hillary clintion. She don´t have an opinion, no spine. She is a very shallow character.
There is no flip-flopping, because there was never a steady course.

She called half the nation a basket of “deplorables” said anyone voting for Trump was a sexist racist bigot. Trump invited all the Bernie Sanders supporters who were robbed to come over to his camp, and last night he did not bash the people who voted for Hillary over him.

Not to mention she has radical fringe leftist views and anyone who doesn’t agree with her is a “racist”

In 2008 she was against gay marriage (same as Obama), then she became the champion of it in 2012, she has flipped on Abortion as well, and she called young black men “Super predators” and now says Trump is racist for pointing out that the inner cities are hell holes. Back in 2012 her and Obama were calling Mitt Romney “paranoid” for saying Russia was a growing threat, now she wants a war with Russia.

I’d say she’s a flip flopper for sure.

I disagree, she is a marxist in many ways, just take a look at her mentor a man who she says she admires (Obama also highly praises him)

They disagreed on one thing though, Saul thought the people should become radical to influence the government, while she thought the radicals should be the government.

She’s been consistent in her racism though, another one of her mentors, a man who she has spoken highly of many times.

Was a Grand Dragon of a KKK chapter.

As she says you must have a “private and public postion” Her private views have very much remained unchanged, but her public views have gone all over the place.

Go Russell

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Yes, sure. Hillary doesn´t play fair. Bernie supporters are sexist, because they don´t support her.
So if you don´t want to be racist, or sexist, don´t vote for Trump or Sanders, stronger together!
She is bullshitting a lot.

I doupt that she have a real opinion here. I think she was not against gay marriage at that time, she was just telling that she was against it, because of the polls. Later the opinion of the people changed, so she changed with them to keep it up to date because it is the current year… nobody knows what her opinion is, I think she does not care and just try to share the opinion with as much people as possible to gain votes.

You are kidding me? Corporate Sellout Hillary Clinton is a Marxist? A Marxist? Why does she cooperate with her biggest enemy then, the upper class bourgeoisie? I don´t understand why she should be a Marxist, how the hell did you get into this idea?

The Chicago Cubs hadn’t won the world series since 1910, and everyone was saying “Trump will win the presidency when the cubs win the world series”.

Well guess what happened. :smile:

Her mentor

Also you should take a look at real world communism, it always consists of a super rich upper class elite while everyone else is dying of starvation in the streets.

Marxist leaders are always in it for themselves, they stir the people up with their “make everyone equal” chants, but in reality they are looking to line their own pockets, which is precisely how the Clintons operate.

Russia China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam. All these nations had super powerful rich elites(some still do), while the rest of the nation was impoverished. Real world communist leaders are master scam artists.

Yep Russia invades Ukraine but thats alright.
Finland is handing out booklets what to do when Russia attacks, but thats alright.
Dead bodies of journalists who critisize Putin are popping up, but thats alright

Your ignorance is dangerous

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2459, topic:27880”]
Also you should take a look at real world communism, it always consists of a super rich upper class elite while everyone else is dying of starvation in the streets. [/quote]

Yes, that is true, And I know very well about it. But that has nothing to do with real world communism per se.
If you look at demographic data you will see that education correlates directly with political alignment.
The more educated people are, the more left and liberal they are on average, while as lesser educated people are, the more right and authoriarian they are.
Education also correlates directly with wealth. And this is also one reason for a natural left-liberal media bias, which is existing. Who studies journalism? More leftists then right wingers.
And this upper class leftists speak for a poor left wing audience that barely exists, because they speak for people who are most likely right wingers and who have completely different opinion. Strange topic…

Well, I see your argument here, and there are in fact similarities, but this is still not marxism, because there is a very different way in how marxism works… or should work… in theory… (because it does not work, its broken… or it will break you if you try to use it) …but exactly this theory is marxism, and her politics are far away from this theory.

i did not say otherwise.

I dont want another war either. thats why I think people should be careful when dealing with russia.
You said it yourself… Putin outmaneuvered Obama, because Putin is hell of an inteligent politician

Ukraine is not a NATO nation, Russia won’t invade you because it would end the world.

Good on them. But let’s be honest and realistic, Europe loves to brag about being “Demilitarized” and now you are vulnerable (conventionally).

NATO members should strengthen their military, but at the same time we should try and reach a peaceful solution with Russia. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.

Western politicians do the same thing (at least in the U.S). Putin is not a choir boy, nor would i want him as my president, but above all else i don’t want to be buried in nuclear ash.

Yes you’re correct, so tell me what Putin would gain from invading a NATO nation and causing a nuclear war? Ukraine is on their border, they want a buffer zone, and Crimea has an important naval base. Putin isn’t just some mad dog, he does things for a reason, and what practical reason would have to go to war with NATO?

The old CCCP teritory? Of course he would not want a war, but taking a bit here and there might actually work.
We are continent of cucks, remember the Hitler and Sudeteland?

If that were true then why does the left garner the inner city, and poorly educated demographics here in the U.S? Poorly educated people are actually( in the U.S at least) far more likely to vote left due to benefits.

Again i disagree, things have changed. I know tons of people with degrees who are working at fast food joints because they can’t get jobs in their fields.

It’s own special brand of Marxism, ive heard it referred to “Chicago Marxism”. But bringing up the “Theory of Marxism” makes no sense because when Marxism is actually applied in the real world it ends up completely different then it does on paper. Marxism on paper is a glorious magical utopia, while Marxism while applied in the real world is millions dying in a ditch of starvation or being shot, while an elite class lives like kings, and if you take a look at the leftist run cities (Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburg) they are in ruin while the leftist politicians live nice and comfy.

Real marxism will always just remain an paper idea.