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It was the objective to appease Germany to prevent war . [quote=“snejdarek, post:4670, topic:27880”]
Stop shitting into your own mouth. Who would support us? UK, France, Italy, Poland and Hungary all sided with Germany, and on pretty fucking clear terms.
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They were backed to take you peacefully through military means is an entirely different story you just won’t admit it because by admitting it you come to the realisation that you surrendered you own country . Far easier to blame others . [quote=“snejdarek, post:4670, topic:27880”]
We didn’t lay them down when we stood against Germany alone and when we had 100 KIA and over 2000 MIA.
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Ohh come on get real . Your military allowed the occupation to take place don’t deny it , its fact there was no unified official resistance only small groups of people with an actual set of balls . [quote=“snejdarek, post:4670, topic:27880”]
We were more than ready to fight despite being outnumbered 7:1 by Germany, but there was simply no possibility against all of them Nazis and Nazi supporting UK, French, Italian, Polish and Hungarian fuckers, with the latter two making it militarily impossible.
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Show all the plans you like you surrendered. When you had 1.2 millions troops and defences ready . You could of held Germany for a good while and even if you lost you would have cost them a lot of men possibly shortening the war and changing history …but you surrendered.

About sums up your country . Full of guns but lacking in bollocks to use them

You really only look on that from your simplistic point of view of an island country.
You said it is easier to blame others. Well,it is same with you.

Man, when ever you post that map it actually makes me thankful for the countries that border mine. :smile:

That is the whole point.

We could have held for years against Germany alone, but we could not fight Germany, Poland and Hungary alongside the entire border of a country that was shaped like a dachshund.

The initial was the setting before the UK intervened in favor of Germany, up until that moment we lost 100 KIA and 2000 MIA. Following British and French intervention suddenly we faced united front of Germany, Poland and Hungary, with strong backing from London and Paris.

Against Germany alone we stood strong outnumbered 7:1. Then we surrendered when the balance of scales tipped in a way that left no strategic nor tactical possibility of military resistance.

UK had nothing to lose and nothing to gain if they let Germany take on Czechoslovakia (which may or may not have happened as German high staff was vehemently opposed to it), yet they decided to make a pact with the Nazis with no clear gain for anybody out of it, but the Nazis.

I know you suffer from the Polish syndrome - Poles too have a hard time acknowledging that their active support for Hitler in his campaign against Czechoslovakia played instrumental role in their own downfall and loss of life.

We don’t blame anyone . We didn’t surrender . We held on allowing the world a stage to unite to beat hitler .

If trump signs a deal with Putin tomorrow handing over complete sovereignty of the Czech Republic to the Russians . Would you surrender again ? Most likely

So you pussied out . It looked to hard so you gave up .
Russia may have backed you had you asked and accepted there help but instead you surrendered. [quote=“snejdarek, post:4674, topic:27880”]
Against Germany alone we stood strong outnumbered 7:1. Then we surrendered when the balance of scales tipped in a way that left no strategic nor tactical possibility of military resistance.

UK had nothing to lose and nothing to gain if they let Germany take on Czechoslovakia (which may or may not have happened as German high staff was vehemently opposed to it), yet they decided to make a pact with the Nazis with no clear gain for anybody out of it, but the Nazis.
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8 men attacking your mother . Would you leave her ? Are the odds to tough so just let it happen . [quote=“snejdarek, post:4674, topic:27880”]
I know you suffer from the Polish syndrome - Poles too have a hard time acknowledging that their active support for Hitler in his campaign against Czechoslovakia played instrumental role in their own downfall and loss of life.
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Nothing but respect for the poles they didn’t surrender they went down fighting them jumped straight back up and were some of the most lethal RAF pilots in our ranks

Yeah, you didn’t. Because of geographical position most likely.
But I guess it is pointless to say to Brits to get offf their high horse…

But it was you who did not make it stop while you can and that cost you more.
You did choose dishonor as well.

We just haven’t got any foreign country to throw to Hitlers path to buy some time to get out of the continent.

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It’s not our responsibility to defend your sovereignty. It’s YOUR responsibility.

Again with this "it’s your fault " attitude . It was your own choice to give up your sovereignty.

Armies of three countries invading a small isolated country alongside the entire border with numerical advantage of over 10:1 and active support of two major European powers that have massive colonial powerhouse behind them.

Pussied out.

OK.

Nobody asked you to move a finger. On the opposite, we would have been satisfied with you not moving a finger for an inch. Instead, you started muscling up behind Hitler.

And that is where this wise man’s quote comes from:

It was our decision, sure. And even though I understand it, I think we rather should have fought and that the shame of our decision was something that helped Communists to stay there for so long.

But you helped to create the opportunity for the Hitler, can’t you see that’s something?

Also World War wasn’t just about Czechoslovakia. You lost a lot there too and it was you who refuse to stop it when it would be so much easier because of fear of war just like we did. And it came nevertheless.
It was foolishness from your side as well.

I can’t speak for my country but I can speak for myself and I would like to believe that the cache of ammo and guns I currently have may be put to a good use in such a scenario.

But more importantly, Poland and France failed to understand that giving up a military powerhouse of Central Europe to Germany for free will hurt themselves. Over 1/3 of tanks invading France were of Czechoslovak origin, so they paid the price.

Given that the Czech Republic has been for the past 25 years producing the most advance stealth aircraft revealing radar technology not only in NATO, but worldwide, I would like to believe that Mr. Trump would see the inherent issue with giving that up to the Russians.

what difference would it make to your chances of survival ? none we certainly were not going to militarily support hitler . so its a bullshit excuse . you pussied out .

the lovely quote is more fitting for the czechs to be honest . you had the choice to either die on your feet or live on your knees and you made your choice .

just admit it , it was your weak government who gave away your freedom . not us .

i certainly dont agree with the appeasement of course not . I fail to see however how we have any control over your sovereignty . you had the means to defend yourself and you instead chose to agree to the appeasement . [quote=“Wenceslaus, post:4680, topic:27880”]
Also World War wasn’t just about Czechoslovakia. You lost a lot there too and it was you who refuse to stop it when it would be so much easier because of fear of war just like we did. And it came nevertheless.
It was foolishness from your side as well.
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of course i agree . its only natural to want to avoid war but yes we conducted ourselves poorly in the first stages of the war
. However we learnt from our mistakes and made it clear we were prepared to fight to the bitter end .

bit like the 1.2 million troops you had in 1938 … all talk :wink:[quote=“snejdarek, post:4681, topic:27880”]
Given that the Czech Republic has been for the past 25 years producing the most advance stealth aircraft revealing radar technology not only in NATO, but worldwide, I would like to believe that Mr. Trump would see the inherent issue with giving that up to the Russians.
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let me tell you 100% the only nations worth a wank in NATO are France , UK , USA . the rest is just cannon fodder .
if Russia steam rolled europe the czech republic would fit into "acceptable temporary losses "

yes certain small countries are very well equipped in certain small areas but would still remain fucking useless in a full scale war across Europe .

It’s very easy to say that when you have 20 miles of ocean between you and your enemy, just saying. :wink:

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GG frogs.

20 miles of sea is not far at all … ask the germans at Normandy :wink:

also being an island does have a major disadvantage … you can be starved . as the germans tried too.
i dont think anyone could honestly say they think Churchill would have surrendered at any point . no matter how desperate it looked

he also marched out as the winner to the EU national anthem . i nearly threw up at the sight . RIP france . surrendered to germany once again

It was far enough that the Germans had to completely abandon any attempt at a land invasion. You would have been boned without that water.

Of course without water, we likely would have been too, our military was in no shape to fight early on, the only thing that would have saved us in a hypothetical land invasion by Germany is how massive the U.S is.

You weren’t in any real danger of that thanks to our constant supply ships. :wink:

Maybe not Churchill, but the rest of your people like would, as would most nations facing something like that. Either way, this is all hypothetical, both of of our nations can act smugly about stuff like this because of the oceans. Even if we’re beaten someone where else, we can withdraw and continue to shit talk at people. :smile:

Like Le pen said, a women will rule France, either i or Merkel.

well yes of course because they lacked the navel power to launch such a strike , which would have required them to have navel dominance . as well as being unable to take the air .

indeed . had we had a shitty navy however it would have been a different story . [quote=“SirWarriant, post:4688, topic:27880”]
Maybe not Churchill, but the rest of your people like would, as would most nations facing something like that. Either way, this is all hypothetical, both of of our nations can act smugly about stuff like this because of the oceans. Even if we’re beaten someone where else, we can withdraw and continue to shit talk at people. :smile:
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benefits of winning eh :wink: we were lucky to have both a strong prime minster as well as a strong king who refused to leave london and would travel to areas bombed the previous night and try and keep moral up . which he did . so lots of small things combined .

id imagine even if the czechs were lucky enough to have 20-30 miles of water between them and germany they would likely still bend over and run a ferry service for their german masters then try and blame their lack of bollocks on someone else

Of course, just hypothetical though. Bottom line you cant compare the situation our slav friends were facing at the time, to yours.

Probably, although i still doubt Germany could muster enough troops to sustain an invasion of your nation, while occupying all of Europe, and fighting the Soviets on the eastern front. Such an invasion would take years to plan, and time was not a commodity Germany had.