Troll cave II

I really hate, when people are concerned about their security on the internet, and don´t want to give us their address, but they want, that we deliver a physical package to an Email address instead. Please no. That´s not why I have become a Community Manager.

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Aaaalrighty, ima just goona kill u, cuz you gonna die anyway, gurl.

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haha is this a common theme :smile:

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OH HELL NO !

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The president of the United States :sunglasses:

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Idk, the way he Kept trying to kiss her at the end I think she needs to join the #MeToo movement and talk about how he groped and sexually assaulted her on stage the fucking nerve of the orange bowl of jelly!

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It will be the end of donnie tiny hands blumpf.

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@SirWarriant I need your superior moral skills here.

I have a request of a refund via email for moral reasons. A christian user can´t stand that there are scenes with nudity in the game, and doesn´t want to play it anymore for this reason.
If moral comes from god, and you believe in him and his morals, and he does too, how come you are okay with it, and he wants to have a refund? Morals are not fluid but universal and fix, but how can you explain that?
Who of you both is the one with the broken moral compass? Is it him or you? And how do we know?

Please, @SirWarriant, it is an important issue, christian moral costs us real money right now. I need to understand this issue.

No chance would I refund :smile: if he purchased it more than 30 days ago stand your ground ! Bloody crusaders

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I guess all the other stuff in the game like murder, getting drunk, and stealing is alright though.

Nudity is fake, and unless he’s playing the game only to view the nudity, i really don’t see a moral crisis.

You guys are honestly a little too generous with refunds in my opinion. If i had a dollar for every idiot who failed to do proper research on the game, then demand a refund a year down the road…

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Your best warrior king was a Crusader so watch your tongue you heretic filth.

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I would say, even if he plays the game only to view the nudity, thats not a problem. So what? Let him masturbate every day on this stuff if he wants. I don´t see any problem in this.

Yes, thats the funny thing.
He told me he wants to have a refund because of the offensive content in the game, and if he knew it earlier, he wouldn´t had bought it.

I asked him, what offensive content he meant, as he wasn´t specific, and if he meant that you can kill somebody with a sword and murder people. I asked how he could miss that, as we even advertise the game on this.

But he said, that he had no problem with that. But the nudity.

Did you ask me this question of the sole purpose of trying to bait me into another "hah gotcha " morality question? To try and paint me as a hypocrite?

You asked me if i nudity in a game was against the morality of christianity, and i answered as best as i could. I attempted to give you a loop hole. I do not believe a christian is going against his beliefs playing a video game with nudity, unless he’s playing the game specifically for the nudity, which in that cause you could say he is probably violating his own moral code.

That would be the response i would give.

Yes, I asked you to show you another that moral isn´t objective but depends on your subjective view on the world. I don´t want to paint you as hypocrite, I just want to poke a few holes in your worldview.
Your theory about moral just collapses, because it doesn´t work.

You are both christians, but you have different opinions on what is moral, and what is not moral.

He doesn´t want to play a videogame with nudity at all, because of moral christian reasons. How come there are different christian moral values, which are the right ones, which are the wrong ones?

I guess rape, murder and robbery are cool then, because morals are relative to your subjective world view.

No we have differing opinions on weather or not the specific thing violates the moral code, not if all morals are subjective. There is a huge difference.

Christian morals in general regardless of domination, are actually pretty similar, and simply follow the ten commandants, which are also pretty much the basis for western morality.

There are difference of course some branches take thou shall not kill to be, no killing under any circumstances what so ever including war and self defence, but this is due to a mistranslation of the original commandment.

The argument here is
does x violate our moral code, not

Why are the morals we follow, better or worse than others morals.

Me and the person i question would most likely agree (if he is a christian) that adultery is bad but where we might differ, is what adultery applies to. And i do not believe it applies to freaking nudity in a video game.

Yes, completely. It depends on your view. If everyone would think rape, murder and robbery is wrong, nobody would do it, because everyone is the hero of his own story, everyone is the good one from his perspective.
Robin Hood took the money from the rich people and gave it to the poor. Good or bad?
And if you cut the middleman, you declare yourself as the poor, can you rob people then? It is only fair from their perspective, where is the difference?

You just need to declare yourself as the victim somehow… poof… everything goes.

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Really?

You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Holyshit! What in gods name does this shit even about?

You shall not covet.
Are you serious? This is a value of our society?

You shall not make idols.
This one?

I agree with you, that we have certain values in our society which are more or less universally seen as good or bad, because they have a good or bad influence on the society.
You shall not murder.
Makes sense, you don´t need to be a god to come up with this. If you are a society, or better a community, you sould work together and you should not kill each other, or steal from each other. Stuff you don´t want to happen to yourself, so don´t do it to other people.
BUT if it comes to other groups, this doesn´t count anymore. To kill somebody can be the good choice, the moral choice.
Where is the border of killing somebody, and murder somebody?

Moral is an regulation system of society to bring attention to a society problem, to generate an in-group and an out-group around a problem, and then this groups fight for what they think is good.

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So did you give him the refund !?

Nope, there is a right and a wrong. Murder= wrong. period. If you want to believe that it’s all subjective be my guest, but i wouldn’t feel safe around you.

Yep, Sundays have always been seen as a day of relaxation, and at least in the U.S up until very recently you would be hard pressed to find a business open on a Sunday.

What exactly are you trying to prove?

What the fuck are you on about? What are you trying to prove here?

Are jealously and envy not seen as negative traits?

If they are worshiped as a god, yeah it would be wrong by Christian morality.

Again if you spent five seconds googling shit your “Checkmate christians hur der” wouldn’t fall flat so much.

Are you seriously trying to argue western morals aren’t Christian in origin, and nature?

So it’s only wrong if it has a negatvie impact on society?

How about a hobo who has no family and lives under a bridge? If i were to blow his brains out, society would not be negatively affected.

And this is why the largest mass murders in history have been carried out by rabid anti theists, since you have such a twisted view of morals, and how they should be implemented in society. Since in your mind the only thing that makes murder wrong, is a simple difference in point of view…

Morals need to be more than just “simple points of view” in order to have weight and impact.

you miss the point . he is saying when does it become murder ? is a soldier a murderer ?

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That is clearly defined in western morality, which is heavily based of the Ten Commandments. Murder does not include a solider who kills in a war.

This was covered a few dozen posts ago.