Troll cave II

If Hillary gets into office expect increased tensions and possibly a war with Russia, but that seems to be what you guys want.

Also you would think that if Europe was this terrified of. Russian invasion they would increase defence spending and build up their militaries , but no many countries seem content to rely on U.S protection.

Yes, but could stop doing that and not be OK with it when someone else do that.

Ehh no. Nobody wants that and you know it so please stop. It looks like fear mongering.

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Hhahhaah, me fear mongering? I guess you haven’t been reading your country men’s posts. Clinton has outright refused to have conversation with Putin, has shown zero indication of attempting to work things out with them, and has been playing tough guy and saying Russia will pay for its actions.

She has also been the target of Russian hackers so it’s quite clear the level of contempt they have for her. Let’s throw in how much of a war mongerer she is (supporting the Iraq war) and her huge rule in destabilizing Lybi by killing Gaddafi. She has also insulted Putin publicly on numerous occasions.

But sure trump will start ww3 with peace talks.

Yeah you do - you talk about global conflict. And I did and react with actual quote. I’m not saying that Clinton is better - I think there is perhaps no less evil this time but I don’t know enough and it’s your choice.

Well that’s all bad but hardly enough to provoke a conflict with Russia in my opinion. And with Trump - yeah I don’t believe he would intentionally cause any war. He’s not idealist and war usual do not pay off.

For starters Crimea is pretty fucking stable .

Where was the resistance to this "invasion " the Crimean people had every chance to pick a side and they did very visibly . They choose the Russians .

I’d hardly give it the credit of calling it an invasion . About 2 shots were fired and they were warning shots !

Had there been resistance from the Ukrainian army and Crimean people NATO would of kicked off a lot more but there wasn’t and Putin knew that which is why he was willing to do what he did .

The man is no an idiot he is never going to risk a war with NATO . And vice versa

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Russia is not a credible threat to the west anymore . But Eastern Europe love to bang on about the supposed threat because while it apparently exists they get cheap American military kit free joint training and billions of investment from the west .

On top of that the added funds generated by housing foreign troops in their country .

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I am about to think you really believe that.

Ukraine is the country and that gets destabilized. Meanwhile Crimea was flooded with Russian soldiers so no wonder
But most importantly - invading a country and army making referendum when the country is in that state as Ukraine was is hardly democratic. None who values sovereignty can recognize such referendum.

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Ok I’ve just saw your next post. Russia is not in that position now but will take any opportunity that will occurs and who knows what future brings? Eastern counties should invest more in military, I agree on that - but USSR it is not just ghost of the past.

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I’d say the EU destabilised Ukraine . Had the EU not entertained the idea of membership knowing full well that Ukraine is a very divided and grey nation and not one the west should be touching Russia would not have invaded Ukraine . There would of been no benefit to do so .

He took Crimea because of the navel base there . The EU divided the country as it does everywhere it touches and it flamed up .

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Why exactly is this funny? I don’t get it.

ohh jheez

It’s playing on the irony that someone criticised trumps knowledge of the constitution and trumps response was basically that the man has no right to stand in front of millions of people and critisise him in that way .

Which of course he does have the right to do under the right of free speech

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Oh, i feel dumb now.

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Hilary : North Korea sucks !
Black people : nah North Korea is cool
Hilary :

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Dear god, why do have an erection.

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While the top quote is false, Margret Sanger was extremely racist, held meetings with the KKK and was very fond of eugenics. But you know Donald trump was endorsed by someone who was a member of the KKK 40 years ago, and he took a day to disavow him, so Donald trump is literally Hitler.

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Its all a puppet show.

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It wouldn’t at all surprise me if my vote counts for nothing, but if there’s a chance it does i feel i have a moral obligation to vote.

Vote locally, its who you put into office locally that inturns becomes the deciding factor of where your states electoral college votes go.

But if the federal elections are rigged, why wouldn’t the local ones be rigged as well? There was plenty of shady shit going on in my state last year.

Nothing is rigged perse just highly currupt.

Your local officials are easier to hold responsible. Many states have laws that help keep the states electoral votes in line with the states popular vote.