Will this game have Moors?

Janissaries at the time aren’t different than Mamluks. Devshirme system was first practiced during the rule of Murat II (1421-1444 1446-1451). Ottomans never used Christians in the army and Janissaryes are only a small part of the Ottoman army before they seiged the de facto rule of the state and at that times they are selected from Muslim families. Even those selected with devshirme system are only an ex-Christian, they are assimilated and converted to Bektashi Order. Bektashism isn’t a strict religious order, for example thanks to that some Tengriist and Zoroastrianism traditions are still practiced by some smaller communities of Anatolian Turks and Kurds. Apart from that If the family have only one son or if they live in a city or if the father is a craftsman or if the boy have a distinct appearance like mismatched eye colors, balding or deformities they are safe from devshirme drafts.

Around 1380s a grandson of Murat I( Davut, son of Shahzade Savci Bey) fleed to Hungary and later become a friend and an ally to John Hunyadi but i do not know whether he is a courtier of Sigismund or not. Maybe we can see him with Cumans (that archers with “funny” hats from the trailer).

@blackdreamhunk All Jews are share their ancestors with Arabs, your misconception originated from Beta Israel. By the way It isn’t something like Beta test of Israel, its mean “people of Israel”, Beta is anglicisation of “Beyt” an Arabic and Hebrew word. Like all other Jewish people they too inter married with locals.

About Tutankhamun, his birth name is Tutankhaten and if there any Pharaoh that also an Abrahamic Prophet it will be his father Akhenaten. Akhenaten abandon the old polytheistic Egyptian religion and formed Atenism, actually his name was Amenhotep but he change his name to Akhenaten at the same time. Atenism is a monotheistic religion but its more akin to Zoroastrianism than any Abrahamic religion. During his rule Tutankhaten abandoned the Atenism and change his to Tutankamun.

Abut Amen/Amun/Amon and ending word of prayer, Amun is a God from ancient Egyptian pantheon. He and other Egyptian gods are “archenemy” of both Atenism, Judaism, Christianism and Islamism. Amen is shared word of Hebrew and Arabic like Beyt and many other words.

In the alternate universe of Pharaoh Jesus, Jews, Christian, and Muslims would be end their prayer with aten instead of amen.

North Africans share more DNA and culture with other Mediterraneans than rest of the Africans. Beside Moors are result of melting pot in the Andalusian Chaliphate. By the way most important realm of Africa at 1403 isn’t Abyssinia, Axum, Granada or any Mediterranean country but Mali.

About the Coat of Arms, you can trace back all of those families to Crusaders and Spanish nobles of Reconquista, its mean their ancestor slay more Muslim than others. For medieval europeans both Africans, Arabs, Gypsies have black skin. Even the orginal Aryans (Persians and Kurds) and Turks from Central Asia was pictured as black skined in most of their art. Beside Coat of Arms have strict rules about colour, you can not pick a color at whim. Most logical choice to represent the decapitated Muslims in Coat of Arms is black.

Despite the fact that this post contains a huge amount of information on history and sience so far, I believe it contributes very little to the actual game developement.
I’ve written a paper on people of colour and their appearance in europe from the ancient time until the modern era and as far as my knowledge goes, there wouldn’t most likely be any people of colour in the area where the game takes place at that time.

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Frist off I don’t have agenda this is historical facts. Lets not forget that black people did not invent racism white people did. second I don’t see " GLORIOUS PUNS"

10 Arguments That Prove Ancient Egyptians Were Black

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TRHJ3GMHAHR5ELKMB


I really don’t want to turn this into a discussion like this but no one invented racism. The mechanism is always there it’s just your upbringing defining the parameters.

Anyways what do ancient Egyptians have to do with early 15th century Bohemia?

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How is my information misinformation please explain???

No that is not what I said, I suggest you read my post again.

Dud Arabs don’t predate black people, really Arabs where around back then??? Then Show me where Romans and Greeks would write about these Arabs living in africa and Sudan!

Jesus was a hebrew and had ancestors who came from Egypt where brown-skinned and black-skinned people with roots in the Sudan lived [before you say “he was
white” just because you were taught that, please read up on the original people
of the Nile and the various invasions of the area that became pre-Christ Egypt
by light-brown-skinned (Alexander the Great) as well as dark-skinned people
(Nubia) groups]. Even the Bible’s limited descriptions of Jesus describe him as
a man with hair that was “white like wool” and feet that were
"burnt like brass." [Sounds much more like a wooly-haired black than
straight-haired, white-skinned person to me, my friends]. Certain whites now
accuse blacks of “rewriting history” but it was, indeed, people of
European descent who rewrote history and, wrongly, promoted an image of a red-haired,
blue-eyed Jesus Christ throughout the world.

there were no such thing as arabs in those land arabs are a AD people NOT a BC people. please stop telling garbage there was no such thing as Arabs at that time!there is NO Arabs recorded in history they are an AD people.this back up by hard science DNA etc! show me proof ancient historians, or ancient text that says Arabs lived in that time frame in that area of land.

The Greeks
knew how to read and write. The romans knew how to read and write. the
Nubains( kingdom of cush) knew how to read and write. Ethiopians knew
how to read and write. The Egyptains knew how to read and write.

Where are the Arabs historians?

/b/

I sense a lock incoming. I suggest you debate the finer points of history somewhere else

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I haven’t made any. Read my posts again if you don’t believe me…

If you want to claim sudan was arab please explain this for me!

show me where is say they were Arab in bible torah or your qurrans



more your garbage!

You forgot this one

lets talk about european racism and racism in this forums

I am going to stick this right here

Yea the ancient Hebrews sure looked like Arabs!!!

You have the answers to the original question. At first everyone politely answered but then you steered this thread toward discussing racism.

7/10

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