Anyone else alittle paranoid of knife attacks?

Oh you are ok with a weapon made originally for killing but then adapted for other uses. Its the same case with guns made for killing but then people found many more uses for it.

What is the difference between “standard telescopic baton” and totschlager? I thought that is the German word for the telescopic baton. This is the first pic google throws at me as totschlager:

First, I read too many articles about Czechs who had some small knife with them for bread or apple or whatever and got criminal charges for that while just cycling in Germany (or doing some other nice touristic activity). After all I am a law abiding citizen and if I am not sure that what I do is within the law, I don’t do it.

Second, I can’t really see myself using a knife against anyone. Maybe if I was defending GF or family member, but I am not sure if I could do it in defense of self. Gun takes much of the nastiness of knife away for me.

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Its ironic because its called a self defense tool in your country but a death machine in others. Its the same way with guns.

The TotschlĂ€ger has a metalic ball at the top and it extends same as a “Springmesser” with a spring and not a slash/thrust like the normal telescopic baton. It can easily break a skull. That’s why it’s forbidden and the telescopic baton isn’t.

Please define “metal ball”. The one I carry when I don’t have a gun is the same as the one in the pic above.

Why does google throw standard telescopic batons as totschlager then?

BTW, to get back to the fact this is a gaming forum, here are some that may be in the game:

Then you probably have a normal telescopic baton, also known as Teleskopschlagstock in Germany.

Also, the TotschlÀger is flexible which adds more power to the attack.

The Picture you showed me is actually a telescopic baton. I found it again and it said so in the description.

This is actually a Stahlrute, but it’s almost the same.

There’s your difference. :smiley:

They looks may be different, but you see the essential parts which are different.

Oh, yeah, these clubs are looks damn scary. :smiley:

OK, good to know. The interesting thing was that when I was trying to find out about legality of different self-defense means (from Czech perspective) I read quite a few blogs/forums/posts/articles of people who were crime victims in Germany and were crying out loud for not being able to have even a pepper spray to defend themselves and to walk defenseless the very streets they were attacked on every day. I can’t imagine living in constant fear of being attacked/raped again like that.

Pepperspray is only allowed for women and elder people as far as I know. I as example don’t go out at night that much because of the possibility of beeing mugged. And if I do, then I only Keep in the City. I’m quite fit and young, so I’m not scared of really beeing hurt, I can run ;). What I keep with me as defense most of the time is a “Springmesser”, because they’re quite easy to carry in your pockets.

was it relevant for me to bring it up ?
i joined up at 16 and left at the beginning of this year after 12 years (just long enough to get the pension :smile:) i served in Afghan of course .
its not so much the fact that they kill that makes me say civilians shouldnt have them , its the damage they CAN do and what a miss aimed shot with a high powered weapon could do . easily fly through a wall or window and kill someone . there should at the very least be a weapons licence that you have to pass and a weapons handling test on any weapon you buy.
its not right that you can just walk in to the shop and walk out an hour later with a gun .

And again, stuff I say may or may not be wrong. (Not really again, but ye know what i mean)

such as ?..

Hunting, sporting, collecting. I seriously doubt you were in the military. Anyone I’ve ever talked to who’s served are very pro gun. A car can easily crash and kill a car full of innocent children yet you want cars legal. You are way more likely to be killed in a car accident than by a gun. So lets ban cars who’s with me! Almost all American gun owners grew up around and used them since they were very young. Most families who own guns put there children through hunter safety like my own family does. As we already know banning guns would cause 2.5 million more violent crimes to occur. 80% of gun murders in America are committed by gangs. If the police cracked down on gangs instead of letting them run wild in cities such as Chicago we would have around 2000 murders per year. Then the illegal immigration issue. We dont even really have a border unless you count a rickety old fence that dosen’t even have barbed wire on it. Roughly 2000 Americans are killed by illegals per year. Have proper border patrol and that takes away most of that 2000. Wow i just solved our murder rate without banning a single fire arm. Our government is completely incompetent and wants our guns so they can control us.

thats because they are most likely american too as you’ve never left the states , im not anti gun at all im against people that dont have a clue how to use one being allowed to own one .
ohh yes because then youd have 0 murders wouldnt you . how stupid you sound each time you write that same statement .

Never said zero but if we took care of those problems we would have under 1000 murders per year. I don’t think you are getting the point PEOPLE WHO OWN GUNS LEGALLY KNOW HOW TO USE THEM. Ive told you several times and i will say it again people over here grow up around guns and are taught to be safe with them and respect them from a very young age. It the illegal gun owners like the gangs in Chicago that are irresponsible with them. A gun ban would not even affect them in any way seeing how their guns are illegal. The illegal come from Mexico you may call everyone in north and south america American but they dont see themselves as Americans. When someone is called an American it means they are from the United States of AMERICA see the key word i used in caps. Would you rather call us united states of americans?

if it wouldnt affect them then we would have the same gun issues as you . the guy who shot up sandy hook was both white and legally owned all the weapons

He did not legally own the weapons his mother did. She was an irresponsible gun owner who didn’t keep her guns in a safe and taught her mentally insane son how to use them. P.S everyone in America knows sandy hook is staged its laughable you still believe that it happend.

hahahaha ohh god you just keep on getting better

you literally are the stereotypical american .

  1. never left the US
  2. thinks the governments try to kill you
    3.blames everything on immigrants
  3. Gun nut
    5.most likely fat
    let me guess it was the aliens

The government completely staged it. Conveniently all the bodies were cremated none of the parents actually cried tears for their dead children one father was actually laughing and smiling the day his daughter was killed on the news. All the witnesses storys contradict each other. The school nurse claimed Adam Lanzas mother was a teacher there but then the rest of the school says she wasn’t. hahahahah i pity your stupidity.