i pitty your entire nation
Admit it George even if you dont like our gun laws spend five minutes watching the interviews with the parents the day after the children died and they are smiling and having a damn good time talking about their dead child cracking jokes and laughing.
link me then âŠ
If you actually think they are grieving parents who really had their child killed a day ago then youâre not worth my time.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sandy+hook+robbie+parker+laughing take your pic out of any of the videos on that page they all show the same thing.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sandy+hook+parents+interviews
Watch all the parent interviews you can see they are actors and bad ones at that.
ill grant you its a little odd but what gain would the government get from shooting kids ?
- Cant afford it i would love to go outside the country but its expensive.
- I never said the government was trying to kill me i said they were corrupt which they are.
- I blame 2000 deaths a year on illegal immigrants which according to the FBI is true.
4.I myself dont even own a gun at the moment but my family owns quite a few. - I dont consider myself fat but you never know over the internet.
Because the American people will believe anything the media tells them. I never said the government shot kids i dont even think anyone was harmed it was all staged acting. Ever since Sandy hook the government has been pushing even harder for gun control its there extra leverage in a debate. Pires Morgan constantly tells pro gun people on his show that if they dont agree with banning guns they dont care about the dead kids( that never existed) at sandy hook. If kids start getting shot it turns even more people against guns can you now see why the government would gain from staging such an event?
As long as the license is shall issue and the process is transparent, I agree with you. That is, I like the way the system works in the Czech Republic and I would not want it any other way (incl. the US).
But at the same time I am far from telling Brits or Americans that their system is wrong. I may not like it, but it is your country, your system, your rules. Just donât tell me that I would be better off unarmed, as same as I wonât be telling you to get arms. Everyone should have a choice to decide for themselves if they want to be armed or not for self-defense purposes. When seconds count, the police are minutes away, no matter whether it is inner London or Texas countryside. I would hate living in a country where I would have to rely on the government to protect me from sociopaths and psychopaths, but if you are happy with it - good for you.
I donât know many soldiers, but every single cop I talked to in the Czech Republic was very supportive of civilian gun ownership. Mostly with the argument that they may be good in solving crime, but when the shit hits the fan, they canât be there on time. Granted that it is in system with licencing and back ground checks.
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Nope. Pepperspray is only allowed for use against animals. You are allowed to use CS gas, but that isnât useful when someone is intoxicated. Youâre pretty much defenseless in Germany if youâre not a martial art expert. 
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If you dont mind me asking what country are you from?
Iâm from Germany if you were responding to meâŠ
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Reading this discussion is nice
I live in Brazil, one of the most violent countries there is. Iâm a lieutenant for the reserve of the brazilian army, it were my âuniversityâ but itâs really useless inside the country. Our cops are corrupted and my brass really means nothing, although it were supposed to be an higher degree than in any of our many police forces. It only compares to our special elite force (BOPE). ANY corporation that isnt this one its 80% corrupted
Here if a woman goes out after 22h, on a periphery neighborhood she has an 50%+ chances of being raped and/or murdered. Who lives in the center has a bit more of âsecurityâ (by saying that imagine as just being robbed or getting the face smacked a little bit). Woman has the right to use the pepperspray, which you can imagine, doenst do any real damage aside its concussion.
We have the right to bear white weapons/cold weapons/white arms, but we do not have the right of self defense (by that understands that its broken and does not cooperate to the victim side), and its illegal by law to bear an gun, and you can only have the license to wear a airsoft gun. You canât have a real gun, since we got a disarmament call a few years ago (2008 i think), neither hunting rifles since the hunt is prohibited.
But, as you can imagine, that really just boostered our fellow terrorists. The law doenst apply to them, since the law enforcement does not go to them (well, atleast not to talk) and our politicians are mostly corrupts. We have tons and tons of drugs getting in by the borders from our producers neighborhoods.
The law aswell protects childrens, or mostly teens who didnt made 18 years. For killing, if you arent 18, youâll get 6 months or 1 year MAXIMUM. Guess how many years most of the terrorists/drug dealers have. And if you do any harm to them, for protecting your house, or even your life, you may get from 10 to 20 years.
Its fun to see you guys arguing, to see how different is outside here. As i am sworn to die for this country, i have high hopes itâll change someday. I really do.
Cheers !
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You are absolutely right. The Americans cry havoc about their gorvernment, gun laws, immigration and crime and turn a blind eye on countries like Brazil, South Africa, Mogadishu and lately India.
We Europeans can not really participate in the criminal statistics race for no.1, but let me tell you anyway: take a good look at your neighbourhood, your environment and your posessions.
Now imagine you donât have any of that, sometimes not even running water nor electricity and gangs pillaging all day without restrain. Welcome to the Favelas.
The BOPE earn my respect. Those guys actually could be called law enforcement. Any SWAT member would need military training to compete with what these guys have to deal with on a daily basis, even after their shift has ended.
But would guns help in this situation? Nope. In countries like Brazil owning a gun would be a threat to yourself, as you will be robbed and shot with your own firearm. Or knifeâŠor cooking pan.
Guns do not protect you, gun-free zones are not safe (nor gun-free) and laws only apply to the lawful man.
The more the government restricts your freedom, the more people will become criminals, even without their intention. On the other hand will anarchy not help those that feel safe with a gun in their pocket/holster, it will make them rivals to other armed members of society.
There is a thin red line between freedom and chaos. The more people live together in a small area, the more likely someone will have a different morality and does not care for the rules of this society. Those are the ones you donât want to arm. You also donât want to have a government that thinks for you, planned your life and forces you to do everything they ask you to.
That is why laws and regulations are needed. Gun laws should keep firearms off irresponsible/criminal hands without interfering with the individual desire to own and shoot in a safe environment.
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^Same opinion like you 
Oh come on. Where is this BS about âbeing shot with own gunâ coming from? You are right that you canât compare Brazil to Europe. But you can do that with South Africa. The only thing that is standing between immediate large scale looting and murder of middle class in Africa is that the people there are armed.
I feel sorry for every rape, assault and murder victim in Brazil and I wish them they had the chance to decide to be able to prevent what happened to them by shooting the perps. You? You essentially say - f*ck them, nothing we can do, guns would only make it worse, move on.
So far I have been very respectful to antigun opinions on this forum, mostly because they came from Georgewest whose idea of government taking care of bad guys makes some sense when it works, like it does to large extent in UK, even though it gives no immediate relief to crime victim (who more probably got murdered by attacker with knife than not). But using the same logic in a country with widespread violence where government is essentially unable to protect citizens or punish criminals just gets my blood boiling.
I suppose you mean one should be only allowed to have fun at range? What you say is that guns should be treated as toys. Nope, and double nope in case of countries/regions where people are at mercy of psychopaths and sociopaths.
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i know what this thread needs
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Just because our government is more sneaky than his doesnât mean its not corrupt as fuck. If you argue with a cop in America now a days you have a good chance of getting beat to the curb and hospitalized. Our government stages gun attacks and builds concentration camps all around the country. Guns do not protect you bullshit tell that to 2.5 million violent crimes stopped with a firearm per year in America. We never claim to have the only corrupt government far from it.
And George still waiting on your response about sandy hook.
my response is simple i fail to see any benefit for the government to carry such an act out . although i do believe 9/11 was fishy and a little unknown fact . putin threatened to reveal satellite pictures and evidence that would prove beyond any doubt that the towers were brought down by a small controlled nuclear explosion carried out by the US government . and just like magic obama backed off and has not had much to say on ukraine since
Yeah most people know 9/11 was completely staged as well i already told you sandy hook gave them an excuse and leverage to pass strict gun control. But i doubt the towers were brought down by a nuclear device you can clearly see little charges going off as they collapse perfectly straight. If you believe 9/11 was carried out by the government can you know see why we would want our guns?