Anyone else alittle paranoid of knife attacks?

what gun control was that ? i no he attempted but nothing ever got passed that made a bit of difference

There was a huge gun debate before sandy hook happened. then it happened and they were like see this is what happens if we don’t ban guns. Look into sandy hook for five minutes and you can see it was completely staged no children were killed it was acting.

but nothing was changed

It turned a lot of people in favour of banning guns. Maybe if they made it seem more real and not make it to where a half brain dead infant could tell it was staged then more people would have been in favour of a gun ban.

I think what he means is, weapons should be used for Sport, not killing, atleast not humans. Also, if guns were banned, then it would be much harder for criminals to get guns. They couldn’t walk into a gun store anymore. They would have to smuggle them or Import them, which is both, pretty hard.

Most gun crimes in my country are committed by gangs who get their weapons illegally. We have an open border with Mexico and Canada smuggling guns would be as easy as walking across the border. Our government needs to crack down on gangs not guns.

I am not antigun at all. I work in the firearms industry. Owning guns and shooting them in a safe environment does not exclude self-defense. or do you buy a gun for self-defense to shoot someone? You buy a gun for protection and hopefully you will never be forced to use it.

If you want a gun to shoot someone in self-defense, you are probably not the responsible person to own a gun in the first place. If you own a gun, train with it and eventually master the gun, you can have fun without the urge to actually use it in a dangerous situation.

This is the principle of any anti-terror organisation/unit. Train for the worst, hope for the best. If it was the other way around, you could stike out the anti- in front of the unit designation.

exactly , if you purchase a gun with the intention of using it to kill you shouldn’t be near a gun

why would they need to smuggle them across the border far far easier stealing them or getting weapons from a dodgy shop

Sorry, I misunderstood you, which must be quite clear from the opening sentence:

I thought that you argue along the line of gun laws of countries like Germany, France, Norway, Slovenia, etc., where it is possible to own firearms for shooting at range and hunting but it is next-to-impossible to get concealed carry license, and it is criminal to use them in self-defence.

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately there are maybe only four or just a few more than four countries in Europe that recognize self-defence as a legitimate reason to own a firearm (and allow concealed carry). So having gun for protection is a very limited possibility outside US, Czech Republic, Estonia, and Austria, Slovakia (the latter two having permissive may-issue system).

I never said that, as per above. I really don’t know how could you misinterpret my words in this way.

My words exactly.

Let’s be honest, gun control can hardly be any tighter than it is in Britain. And the outcome is that the only people who carry guns are gangsters, and that to the extent that the police have to enter certain areas armed with sub-machine guns. Law abiding citizens have some chance to get their hands on a shotgun if they own a farm and go through a myriad of paperwork, licenses and permits. But at the end of the day, it is only criminals who are effectively armed.

jesus you love your 6 year old news articles dont you :stuck_out_tongue: in the suburbs you dont see armed police walking about . but in areas that are bad with knife crime there will be more armed patrols nearby (in cars not on foot ) and dog units . thats just effective policing . most of the knife crimes in the UK are criminals stabbing criminals anyway

i live in an area where if i was to go 200 metres left on the main road i would be in the "trouble " area but if i was to go right on the main road 200 metres i would be surrounded by mulimillion pound houses and alot of london is like that and the gangs never go into the better areas they always stick to their “turf” and stab eachother . so as long as you dont get involved you’re pretty safe apart from halloween when it basically turns into the purge for the night haha

[quote]Gun-related crime is on the increase in London with 1,736 gun crimes reported in London between April and September this year – up 17 per cent on 2008. (…) in gun crime hotspots where armed gangs have turned entire estates into “no go” zones. (…) “We are looking at gangs that have access to firearms and will be robust in dealing with them and disrupting and deterring them.”
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That is more than double gun crime criminality rate than we have in the Czech Republic (taking into account population count), even though access to guns is many times easier for law abiding citizens here.

So basically what you are saying is that you live very near an area where there are armed thugs with very little regard to human life, but you prefer to put everything you have on faith in the fact that these thugs will remain within their domain and won’t ever cross the invisible divide and become threat to you or your loved ones? And having a firearm when living 200 metres from an area where you would be in “trouble” would make you no safer, well, because guns are bad…?

Well, I honestly wish good luck to you.

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I did not address this sentence to you, I used the “you” to force a reaction. Just like the “drink responsible” advertisements.

I did not comment on the self-defense regulations in Germany since we (hardly) need them. I am,however, against the restrictions of “non-human” targets only, combat/defensive shooting drills and weapon attachments.

These are, in my opinion, post-WW2 anti-milita and -poacher laws. If you want a silent weapon, use a composite bow, no need for a suppressor. The argument a suppressor (not forbidden per se) has the same requirement as the handgun it is designed for is nonsense. Definsive shooting and shooting from behind cover (even on a range) are ridiculous. If you want to train in military shooting, you could just cross the broder.

If you can’t get conceal carry license and if defensive use of a firearm is in fact prohibited, than ban on training that makes sense.

In case you are interested, I recommend courses by OBOS. I just went for one not far from German border, close to Žatec past Sunday.

http://profi.obos.cz/obrana-pistole
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.928705113808134.1073741845.420430884635562&type=1

Actually you can do more things in the Czech Republic that would be probably illegal in Germany, that are also not firearm related. Like cursing politicians or burning national flag, without fearing repercussions. Or growing weed for own use. Or reading Mein Kampf. I personally don’t need to do any of those, but I am happy that we don’t have the VERBOTEN mentality here.

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thats maybe because thats a quote from 2009 . since then its dropped hugely as the police did what they said they was going too

being in london means you’re ALWAYS on CCTV on any main roads so the moment you look distressed police are on the way . England is not perfect but none of our problems could be solved by an armed population

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if this had happened anywhere in america, the amount of gunfire would make it sound like a warzone.

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