Bernard training issue again

Gameplay
#1

It seems like if you do not train weapons the first chance you get, you’re not able to train again until 15 saves later. I did the basic training with bernard which prompted me to shooting arrows with Hans. So the natural transition of the game led me away from training into archery, and then hunting with Hans. Hans gets captured by bandits, and it immediately brings me into the segment where I get a horse, and I have to follow Bernard to the burned down village that was raided. This is where the issue starts because Bernard leaves Rattay and is just gone for what seems like an eternity. I’m probably 10 saves later, on the mission called “My Friend Timmy” and Bernard still hasn’t returned to the training station. I can’t train my character. I don’t understand. And yes I understand that he doesn’t arrive until the noon. He’s still not here. I’ve checked for several days and he’s not returned. At what point can I start training weapons again? I’m like skipping all of the dialogue because I need to train my character and I it’s frustrating me. I just want to finish quests so I can go back and check to see if Bernard has returned, and each time he hasn’t. This game drives me up a wall.

Just think about it, if I follow the game through it’s natural progression, this is where it takes me. I would have had to fail a mission and train with Bernard instead. Why? Is this just bad writing? I don’t remember when Bernard returns .

#2

He may be around in Rataje, but not hanging out at the arena. Look for him in his room (up the stairs in the middle of the greathall in the upper citadel courtyard.

#3

What good does that do me? I can’t train unless he’s at the training location. There’s another thread on this forum about this issue and people are suggesting it’s a bug? Just search “when does Bernard return to rattay”. There’s a few people who ran into this issue. I ran into it the first time I played as well. I had to complete like 8 hours worth of gameplay before he returned. I’m not doing that again. This game is so busted.

#4

It is completely absurd that a game that requires competence with weapons immediately sends you into a mission with the only guy who can train you, and he just vanishes for 20 missions.

Eesti
Feb '18
If he’s not in the camp he might be asleep in the keep… many seem not to find him, at this point I think some patch bugged him.

jewoldt94
Feb '18
I found him sleeping in Nuehof and he won’t leave the bedroom. I wonder if the game glitched out when I talked to Rodzig instead of him to complete the Ginger quest.

Rytan
Jan 23
I have the exact same problem. I found him partway through the day on his horse traveling back to Rattay but about halfway there he stops, Dismounts, gets back on the horse, and returns to Neuhof. Admittedly I have no internet sp this is pre patch.

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This is what happen to me. He got on his horse and was headed back to Rattay but he never showed up. He’s MIA. So yes, this is a bug and I am done with this game. I cannot CANNOT get a single play through of this game without game breaking bugs. This game is fraud.

#5

Or you could have trained before you walked the town with Nightingale. Especially if you know the trajectory you are set on.

Seems to be personal incompetence. Getting the same outcome from the same input.

#6

That’s what I said. Read my first post. I said, it seems like if you do not train before the Hans hunt, I get caught in this bug. There’s no excusing the bug. So it’s not incompetence. What part of my incompetence has led to Bernard going back to Neuhoff after he gets half way back to Rattay? How is that my fault? This is a bug that multiple people have experienced. We’re not breaking the game with incompetence. If you’re just going to slander and defame people, move along. I don’t need your feedback.

#8

You can train with Sir Robard in Talmberg btw.

#9

Since when? Not once has he offered training for me, not where you fight each other. He only offers paid training.

#10

I can get paid training from Bernard still as well. That’s not what I’m looking for. I’m looking to level up my mace and other weapons. If I don’t rank up my weapons before the Hans hunting competition, Bernard goes MIA for a loong time. I’m talking like 12+ saved games later. Which , if I stick to main missions only, takes me like 8 hours of Play-through before one of the quests re-que’s him at the training arena. It’s happened to me two separate times, and two times it didn’t. That’s how I know it’s a bug. This doesn’t always happen to me, but when it does, it’s extraordinarily frustrating because I don’t know how to fix it besides starting over. I tried to go back a few saved games, it did the same thing. I even followed him to see what he does.

#11

I’d like to comment here. I have long since finished the Neuhof mission. But I do remember, I returned to Rattay same day and trained with him next afternoon. I have never had an issue with him suddenly quitting, if anything he just beats the daylights out of me then quits.

However, the first time I trained with him was before I went hunting with Capon. Maybe not training with him before then bugs him out for the rest of the game?

I can still return there anytime, never had training issues.

#12

Would you like to see the bug where he quits? I’ll post a video below. This is from another user , and lucky for this guy, he was able to train for a couple minutes. Mine only trains for like 20 seconds before he walks away, and then gets stuck in a loop.

#13

If you read the comments on that video, many users experience this.

#14

Preferably I’d like to see a vid from you. Up to 60 secs is enough. NVIDIA ShadowPlay can record it as MP4 with small file size. Upload to Google Drive, Youtube, W/E. I’d also be interesting in seeing any other bugs you have.

#15

I’ve since attempted a new play through since the last time I had that bug. This play through was an attempt to get rid of that bug, when I encountered the bug where he vanishes from Neuhof. So I don’t have a personal video of this exact issue, although, there it is. And the users posting about it aren’t imagining it, and there’s the video . I do however have a video where I get a bug that doesn’t show I’m in a private area, and it ruins my reputation. I would keep getting arrested for what seemed like no reason, but the private areas weren’t giving an icon or indication until it was too late.

#16

Then I saw both of your vids a few days ago. One was regarding training, the other was an issue with being trespassed from the bathhouse, even after paying for services. I think you are just staying around too long after you’ve paid for and finished services. They should ask you to leave several times before calling the guards.

#17

Re watch the video, while I’m in the middle of the bathhouse service the private area icon pops up, and I’m being yelled at by townspeople while I’m in the bathhouse service. When the service is over, everybody’s running away screaming.

#18

I would agree that the arrest is triggered after a certain amount of time, but not having an indication of private area was the bug. The bug is that it doesn’t tell me I’m in a private area. It should show me that I’m in a private area before I start a bathhouse service, or go to sleep etc. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.

#19

Or better yet, they should put an invisible door that prevents you from entering if you havent paid. And they should also forcibly eject you after you have received services. You can of course be a customer again. Kinda like the VIP room in stripclubs.

#20

I was okay with the normal “private area” indication. I tried to play through the game as if I would in real life. I like to keep a good reputation in RL, and I don’t break laws. So in the game I don’t like to steal things from people (mostly), or invade peoples private property. Sometimes this game squeezes the criminal out of me and has me picking locks or doing mischievous stuff. I’m okay with that. I just get frustrated when I’m being arrested for soliciting a wench on private property, and nobody told me it was private property. I thought the bath houses were all public.

#21

But honestly, bugs like that are not really my concern. I get it… you’re going to run into bugs. Bugs like the bath house arrest are actually kind of funny. I get done with the wench and they’re all running away horrified. That makes me laugh. What doesn’t make me laugh, are the ones that roadblock my progression. And then when I find other users experiencing the same issues, and it’s my 4th play through attempt, I’m looking for a wall to put my head through.

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