ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE anyone?

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#21

I did some testing in the game and frankly it was a POOR attempt at what should have been an AMAZING game. To top it off, they slap a monthly fee on it which turned away a LOT of people. They easily could have supplemented income with clothing and other customization features that you would be required to buy instead.

Everything eventually ends up free to play. Even the monster Old Republic which swore it would be the last amazing subscription game. World of Warcraft is free to try. The best games start free to play with an amazing system to gain income without “pay to win” features.

#22

Yep. WoW will see its’ end if Blizzard keeps making bad expansions. I’ve played it for a few years and the leap for the worst from Cataclysm to Mists of Pandaria was HUGE. It was as bad is it could’ve been. I turned away from it a month after it came out and now the new expansion is giving me doubts. They are insane money-grabbers and I hope that they will sink soon with their money. Sorry about the rant, but that’s how it is.

#23

Well I’ve been playing ESO early access and I have to admit I’m having a good time. Aside from some server downtime for maintenance, which is understandable, the launch has gone really smooth. Most (not all) of the quests are fixed from beta. There is a decent amount of lore written into the game to immerse it in Elder Scrolls history. Overall I think I need to reverse my previous opinion on ESO.

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#24

Wow

Holy crap, this.

#25

I’ve played the latest beta and it was a huge waste of time. So no, I’m not interested.

I couldn’t think of a bigger immersion breaker than 50 people running around me everywhere all the time. Why creating a rich world if you ruin it by design from the very beginning? I don’t get the appeal of MMOs, sorry.

Good multiplayer for me means co-op or PvP games. Everything else is kind of weird and unappealing imo, especially in a world like TES


#26

I expect WoW will be suffering soon too, more than the current 5+ million player drop they’ve already incurred. Thing is, WoW’s success can’t be taken very seriously anymore, it’s an outdated concept before things like next generation physics and precise tessellation existed. Much of their “retained” player base is actually openly disgruntled with the game, but the community is very well established which keeps them from leaving all-together. I suspect a majority of those who talk up The Elder Scrolls Online are doing so because they’re so sick of WoW and the blizzard team that they want anything and anyone to kill them out. I’m sure some people really enjoy it, but I don’t think the majority do.

MMOs can be done in much higher quality than they currently are, the problem is passion. It’s very clear that MMO developers don’t approach the making of an MMO with any passion, it’s just a “cash cow” attempt for them. Its sad, because if you think of it, almost every MMO is developed by some of the same team members, most of Zenimax Online Studios is being led by disgraced former MMO developers from companies like Bioware, Mythic and Turbine. If they were at all passionate, they would have done atleast something new or different after sinking their first and second games.

#27

Man, you totally hit the nail on the head on that one.

The MMO market could be the same as the mobile gaming market in the sense that no one is there to actually make a good game: People are just there to get that cheap cash-in.

#28

Had the game been free to download
sure I’d have given it a few months try at least. However, selling the game for a 60 dollar price tag and then attempting to get a subscription out of your player base is bullshit in my opinion. They should have learned that from the public reaction to The Secret World.

#29

If I have learnt one thing in the past it’s that Bethesda is unable or unwilling to learn anything.

#30

i wasnt planning to because of the $15/month but the trailer got me excited and my bro is dead set on it so what the hell, ill bite.

on the ps4 though not pc

#31

Yup, this game is certainly the biggest mistake they’ve ever made though. I mean I can’t understand why they would bring in Matt Firor, a guy who failed multiple games and came from some of the worst companies (EA/Mythic, Turbine), make him the head of Zenimax Online, and hire a brand new 300 man team that had never worked with each other before or had any kind of team cohesion, then decided to have them use Bethesda’s top franchise to make a genre that has historically been a disaster, then allow them to make the exact type of game that has failed every single time.

Skyrim’s success is the biggest argument against making a game that un-immersive and restricted. The next coming months will prove to be disastrous for Zenimax.

#32

Yes i have mined pre ordered for XB1 too,i’ve not played the beta because i don’t PC game.Loved Skyrim though:).

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#33

I have pre ordered the imperial box set/game. The only reason I dont play WoW any more is because my lap top died

Maybe I am easy to please as I quite enjoy Bethsedas games, I am a huge Fallout fan too

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#34

Agree with your post 100%

#35

I find that most subscription based MMOs are a colossal rip-off. They charge people outlandish prices and offer bare bones in terms of added content. At $180 per year + $60 the amount of content I expect to be added per year is quite significant; at minimum two full independent AAA games worth. Yet what would likely be added will rival that of a standard $10 DLC every six months. Sub games are dying for a reason. In the past five years we have seen four of the top five MMOs go F2P or hybrid, and the other, WoW, loose 70% of its revenue and half its players.

As for the game itself I can’t say I’m a fan. The graphics are quite poor (To its credit so was Skyrim) and the gameplay just doesn’t feel like an Elder Scroll’s game. Neither for that mater does the atmosphere. TES’s biggest strength is its single player focus. Players are free to do as they please and alter the world to their will. This is not to be found in an MMO. Another key for TES since Morrowind have been the mods, which are also absent in this one.

When it goes B2P or F2P I may check it out again, but unless they actually release content worthy of its extreme price-tag I want nothing to do with a WoW clone that merely cosplays as Skyrim.

#36

I am still willing to give it go. I can’t see White Wolf doing a new Vampire The Masquarade comp game any time soon, and personaly not a fan of World of Darkness.

VTM had it’s faws due to inconsistat writting but thats not to say it could have not been saved by a refresh and tieng up of the ‘facts’
anyway I digress I am very choosy about what games I play I tend to go for indepth/emersive sandbox rpgs like TES, FO and KCD, I am looking forward to FO4 and KCD being released.

Now if you exscuse me I must go look for more clan books on ebay


#37

TESO got 68% in the PC Gamer review
 :stuck_out_tongue:

http://www.pcgamer.com/review/the-elder-scrolls-online-review/

As a F2P title maybe but as a full price game WITH monthly subscription? LOL, never


#38

  1. Yeah, good thing they did it like this. Imagine trying to hit someone who is lagging or if you are lagging without any kind of hit system. It would make horrible PVP.

  2. Best idea ever, good thing they focused on making it fun instead of realistic. No one would use a bow if you had to run and buy arrows every minute.

  3. You got a point there.

  4. Good thing too otherwise it would be impossible to take a fort if all the NPCs would attack en masse.

  5. Yeah but imagine if the guards were running after everyone it would be a total mess.

  6. I guess you only played like half an hour and hence the imperssion of the game. Anyway, the armor looks good IMO without being too much like in some MMOs. The first time you encounter a skeleton is in the absolute start of the game and I guess you stopped playing after that. There are draugr but why would they be in the starting place? Draugr are undead nords, right? The but them where they belonged.

  7. I don’t think you’ve played any off these game you mention. ESO might have similar quests to WoW but what would you have? It’s a lot different in the way that you don’t have to run back and forth, the quests lead on and you don’t have to do the annoying back tracking of other MMOs.

  8. Can you even think how boring an MMO would be if it was immersive like you want it? OK so the character is strong enough to cary about 5 items and if you want to equip anything else you have to throw away what you have. Or you have to run to the bank, put stuff there, change to the fishing rod, run back, leave the fishing rod, get the mining pick, then back again and change to the axe. Come on, be realistic. You just want to bash on MMOs. And that mail system might be one of the best yet. Finally I don’t have to run around like an idiot looking for a damn mail box.

  9. Did you want the day cycles run individually for the person playing the game or what? This was a brilliant idea considering people from all over the world are playing. Otherwise some would only play during the day and some during the night. Or do you want the game tailored after you? You notice the change of day and night and there are weather effects in the game.

  10. Yeah, that’s annoying as hell.

  11. The voice acting makes the questing amazing! This is the first game I’ve actually taken the time to listen to all the quests. But yeah, the lip-sync can be quite awful. I have no idea what you mean with “f*** up a “converastion” screen before”.

  12. Earlier you wanted immersive, now you want to be ably to flee from the enemy while looking through your bag, get the potion and drink without anything happening to the character? Anyway, you can just start the auto run and look at whatever you want. Or even better, use the quick slots.

  13. Good thinking of them, you wouldn’t want to have to run around here and there. It’s much better to have it all in one spot.

  14. It’s clear that you have no idea of the PVP or fast travel work in this game. Yes, you fast travel from wayshrine to wayshrine or from any spot to a way shrine. The are making and MMORPG and not a running simulation game. There has to be a fast travel system otherwise too much time would be spent running. And in the PVP you can only fast travel from one of your factions forts to a fort that has a supply line to the other fort but you can’t travel if it’s under attack. “Enemy raid groups can appear out of thin air instantly before you know whats going on.” is just a lie.

  15. Ofc the mounts appear out of thin air, would be really annoying if you had to park your horse to later go and get it. I’m max level and I’ve seen none of this “neon colored armor” you are talking about. I’m starting to think you have played another game and just thought it was ESO. Anyway some of the NPCs might be boring but it’s mostly well done and a few characters are even amazing. It’s up to each to have their own opinion about that though. About the special effects, ofc there are going to be a lot of them when there are battles of 100 vs 100 but it’s not nearly as bad as you make it out. There are some fire balls, ice bolts and other spells flying through the air with some projectiles from the siege engines but not “raves”.

Yes, the NPC blocking is really just rough and they have to work some on that. At least they should be pushed aside with some stamina cost or something.

Don’t take my word for it that it’s a good game though, or his that it’s the worst game ever. Try it! It seems like people either love it or hate it. I’m a big fan of PVP battles and I’ve really missed a game with the PVP feeling of DAoC and ESO might have done it. There is a lack of end game PVE content but I’m not very into that anyway.

#39

Considering it has little to do with TES since it is a different studio and the actual TES series is a separately established success that will go on even if ESO dies fast, I am not really interested.

An unfortunate side effect of the publisher’s name being Bethesda Softworks and the acclaimed studio behind TES and Fallout 3 being called Bethesda Game Studios is that people across the web misappropriate the studio’s reputation as the publisher’s. The publisher’s track record is mediocre outside the namesake studio. Hence, I have rather low expectations of games done by any studio other than Bethesda Game Studios when it also happens to be published by Bethesda Softworks.

People see IGN use a headline saying “Bethesda Announces ____” and say Bethesda won them over, so they’re sold. Then as the comments go on, they only reference Skyrim, and their mistake is clear.

Hope they are all still enjoying Brink <3

#40

All what you say is true, but give me the name of 1 MMO that is diffrent.

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