Female Playable Character/ Protagonist

Hello Kingdom come deliverance fans. Today on kingdom come talk, I discuss the female playable character or protagonist within kingdom come deliverance.
I discuss some misunderstandings people are having with her and also a potential figure she could be supplied by the community.

also I know who the character is… which i will be doing a reveal video over the next few days… detective work at its best… kinda :slight_smile:

johanna ferrour has nothing to do with the game. she was probably just brought up on the forum in the early discussions about female protagonists. the fact that she was killed in england, and that she was an adult in 1381 makes it impossible to reconcile with the character in kcd, who probably was a small child in 1381.

there’s really no reason to believe she would be a historically known character. afterall henry is an unknown as well.

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yeah I kinda made a mistake. I took the information of the forum- as i state in the video- but after the fact of rendering the video I realised who the playable female character actually is :frowning:
hence why I didnt mention her in the video

and Ferrour could have still been at an age to help henry, just she wouldnt be as fit and ready as she would have been 20 years back :stuck_out_tongue:

Honestly, I don’t think a female protagonist would go very far in a historical RPG like Kingdom Come. Joans of Arc were few and far between, and the daughter of a peasant blacksmith would likely become the wife of a worker in the village, have five or six kids, half of which would die during infancy, and probably live a boring life and die when she was 50. Not so interesting now, is it?

But same we can say about blacksmith. He wouldnt probably went far amd become knight or similar. Very unlikely.
He would settle in a vilage and make tools until he die of some reason. Not very interesting, is it?

A female character could, like it was the case quite often in this time, pull the strings from behind men’s back. Quite frequently there were widows leading their dead husbands business, even big trading companies. And as an outlaw in the wilds things behave a bit differently.
It’s not that it can’t be interesting. It’s just that you cannot move as freely and most of the fighting part is dead. It would be a different game and for a significantly smaller audience.

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I think that’s a feature not a bug. If they did make an other game with a female protagonist (because that what it is when telling an entirly different story) I wouldn’t want it to feature an idealized Joan of Arc type character that breakes compleatly with medival social order. It would be much more interessting to play a women in a situation that is still more or less within the limits. For exampe if you already start as a noble woman and maybe even become responsible for your own estete because of some death in the family. What medival socitiy thought about such a case is interesting. To what extent would they accept the playercharacter and her independence? Where do they protest and how does there argument go? This is part of what would make such a storyline interessting.

Fighting might be a problem yes. But than agin i doubt henrys kill count will be very realistic. It wouldn’t be strange for women to fight in a siege. And Supervising/Leading ones own troops without intending to fight is, atleast in some timeframes, possible for women. If ever veteren warrior had killed 100 people the math just wouldn’t add up. This is where I think it’s okay for a game to take liberties, as long as the player isn’t fighting 100 people at the same time.

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i think it would still be strange. a woman in a siege would be sheltered in the back with the children and others who cannot fight, to protect them from artillery and arrows.

i think the onus would be on the provider of evidence to show conclusively woman were involved in hand to hand combat during sieges. because common wisdom would suggest the men would be handling the combat. and there simply are no reliable sources showing this to be a pattern of behavior.

in village raids and such, again i am very doubftul about the level of resistance women can provide against people bent on killing non combatants. i think escaping and hiding would be the key to survival in those situations.

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I don’t mean to say there is no difference in traditional combat roles. Of course if it’s a very large siege where every spot on the wall is filld it would be incredibly strange to see the lady of the castle fending of the invaders herselfe. I realize now my post colud be read like that. But if we are talking about a small scale sige where every bow, rock or what ever makes a difference, that counts as well as fighting.

So okay maybe the theoretical standalone game where you play a women, should focus on ranged combat. Of course it would also work with a lowborn main character who’s reputation is so bad, she has litererly nothing to loose by breaking the conventions and fighting. But really at somepoint in the game there just wouldn’t be a way of stoping the player form using whatever weapon he or she likes. The real challange is constructing a plausible point of departure.