For those complaing about lack of diversity

How come you never got fired up over STALKER?

Or the Metro series?

There are no poc or women in STALKER, or poc in Metro, yet you werent on the forums then or today demanding things be changed to your liking. You werent demanding modders add poc or women. And those are games set it modern times and entirely fictional.

So why are you vehemently attacking this dev?

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I’ve come to believe most of the people who cry about lack of diversity in games like these don’t actually care about it. Rather, they just want to see how many feathers they can ruffle.

There is nothing wrong with not having specific types of people in a particular historical setting, be it people of color, female knights, or whatever else, even if it may have been possible, when it doesn’t really make the game any better or worse one way or the other. Not having those things in there doesn’t make a developer racist, bigoted, anti-equality, or anything of the sort.

People are free to make the games they want to make, and if someone doesn’t like it I encourage them to make what they want, if they actually can, instead of demanding others appease them.

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they just complain so they can feel like they fight for equality and justice while they dont even have legit proof that there were black people in this time. Its a battle I dont have motivation to engage in since these people are resistant for facts and are not able to discuss properly.
These people are a loud minority and 95% of us know how ridiculous this whole discussion is.
Its a video game, it says realistic yes because thats what it tries to be knowing that it cant be realistic.
Not even Historians know what really happened back then.

there is no point in trying to apply the diversity of large cities, ports and major trading hubs to that of the countryside even today.

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Im beginning to think it may even be down to digital materialism and or gaming addiction in todays gamers.

They want something new all the time and because theyve grown up ona diet of instant gratification gaming (press x to win and microtransactions) and a next to no genre industry (everything) is either first person StealthActionRPGshooter or third person equivalent, they cant understand or comprehend when agame isnt made for the mainstream.

They seem to think every game released has to be played and be catered just for them.

I will admit that for some people, they truly get into the whole roleplaying aspect of “being” their characters in a game, so they might want to be able to have their character look like them or get it as close as possible.

I know some people have complained about Henry’s looks being set in stone. I just don’t see it as a big deal in this game. You’re playing a blacksmith’s son who has a pretty clear lot in life, and he gets caught up in things he was never prepared to deal with. No, you don’t get to say he was a knight or a squire who’s been groomed for that his whole life. You don’t get to say he was born into nobility. He’s a caucasian commoner who at least had a father who seemed to be more than he appeared, and I don’t know yet if or how much more we’ll find out about that as the game goes on (if we do learn more, don’t spoil it here).

There is a specific story Warhorse is telling and that requires a defined role and background for the main character. That’s okay!

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SJWs own Hollywood and want to own the game industry too. That’s all it is. Diversity is just code for anti white. No one cares if China, Japan or Korea have all Asian casts.

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Nah. Diversity does not mean anti-white. Diversity and equality is perfectly fine when there’s a time and place for it in a particular setting when we’re talking movies or games.

I mean, Black Panther wouldn’t work with a bunch of white people in it playing the key roles, and look how well it’s doing right now. I don’t see a bunch of people demanding it be filled with white people just for the sake of diversity.

That doesn’t mean it’s bad for a white person to want to dress up as Black Panther for Halloween, or for a black person to want to be Superman or a Chinese person to want to be Wonder Woman. Why should I care? Why should anyone else? People can draw inspiration from anywhere.

If something is actually well done, that’s what should matter the most, not whether or not it has this type of person or that.

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Of course not, because these people claiming diversity are anti white. Replace all the black characters with white ones, and have the exact same story, replace Wakanda with Atlantis, and watch the diversity complaints roll in.

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And how about afro-american policeman from Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1934? Time and place you say?
“Murder on the Orient Express”


This is no more than political trend.

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Then you wouldn’t have Black Panther. You’d have Aquaman, and we’ve already got Jason Momoa cast as him. He’s Hawaiian/American, but he has some German, Irish, and Native American in him as well. He’s not “traditional” white based on his Polynesian side, and I saw complaints about the casting in the past because he’s not the blond-haired, lighter-skinned person someone would expect to play that character. Again, I say so what?

Some people just have trouble accepting a casting that doesn’t mesh with what comic books, in this case, have gone with for years. Look at Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury. Whether that comes from a position of tradition, racism or whatever that someone is or isn’t aware of, or something else, that’s on each person to figure out for themselves. Sometimes it’s just a bad casting that doesn’t fit at all, like George Clooney as Batman/Bruce Wayne or Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze.

Anyway, this is getting a bit off-topic for KCD.

Yes, I think you’re missing my point. The example above of the black Yugoslavian police, no one cared. No mainstream complaints about silly it is.

The only time anyone complains is when it’s all white. Ever see anyone complain a movie had too many black people? Ever seen anyone complain a Chinese, Japanese or Korean movie had too many Asians? Bollywood had too many Indians? Of course not, even if the entire movie was one race.

The only time these people complain is when there are too many white people. Why? Well, white guilt. It works. Complain, and people usually fold. That didn’t work in this case.

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Sorry, but you’re wrong on this one. People have complained about minorities being cast in traditionally white roles multiple times. “But Nick Fury isn’t black! Why are they casting a black person there?”

You can look at all of these and think back to at least a few times when people got upset at a black person being cast in a role they thought should go to a white: https://www.ranker.com/list/black-actors-who-played-white-characters/lisa-waugh

I never even heard of the Murder on the Orient Express movie. I have no idea how much attention it got, but it looks like the movie veered from the novel in many more ways than just having a black character: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/11/10/murder_on_the_orient_express_movie_vs_book_comparison.html

I never read the book, but that says Leslie Odom Jr.'s character is a composite of two different ones from the book. It even mentions the following:

The movie is hardly colorblind about its casting. In the book, characters are especially suspicious of Antonio Foscarelli, because they believe that a knife is an Italian’s weapon of choice. In the movie, that suspicion shifts toward Arbuthnot and Marquez, as Poirot worries that the crime could be pinned on one of them, guilty or not, because of their respective race and heritage. Poirot also comments on the challenges facing the movie’s interracial couple, Arbuthnot and Mary Debenham (Daisy Ridley).

I have no idea if their skin color or ethnicity was ever specified in the book, and I honestly don’t care. I just watched a movie called Death Note in the past couple days and I had no idea it was based on Japanese manga until I looked up some info about it and saw that there was a backlash about the story using Americanized characters and names instead of Japanese, but even the creators of the original work praised and defended the movie.

Anyway, I’m not buying your white guilt excuse.

Yes, it does. None of your examples have been people complaining about diversity. The word diversity, as used by SJWs, and in this instance about this title, simply means too many white people.

If you claim diversity is not to used to mean anti white, give me one of example of people complaining about diversity that is not about too many white people.

I already have given you examples. You’re just ignoring them.

If you want to agree to disagree, I’m fine with that.

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No, you’ve given me examples of people complaining about miscasting. Not diversity. No one sees an all black movie and complains about the lack of diversity. Give me one example of people complaining about the lack of diversity that is not complaining that there are too many white people. Just one.

You Sound Like a really sad Guy who is afraid that someones going to discriminate hin :frowning: dont be das Buddy, everything is gonna be OK.

It’s just the way it’s going. The next Zulu film will have multi racial red coated soldiers, fighting off multi racial, including blonde hair and blue eyed Zulu warriors. If or when they re make Waterloo for example, there will be regiments upon regiments of black, Asian and Hispanic soldiers. It’s no ones fault that History happened that way but folks, that’s how it happened, let’s not muck around with history to make certain people/races feel better about themselves.

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Oh you don’t understand how extreme these liberal SJW are. Diversity to them means anti white and anti Christian. Is you are a white male or a white Christian you can be attacked, bullied and discriminated against.

As for your comment about white kids dressing up as the Black Panther dont worry the SJW have already given their directive on that.

Not at all. Rather than your feelings though, can you give me one example of anyone claiming anyone, except white people, need to be more diverse? In any area. Movies, living space, anything?