Hello console market for kc:d2!

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#1

I’ve deleted the wall of negative text of my previous post to say the following:

Six hours into Kingdom Come Deliverance 1.4.3 has been a fantastic experience. The only “issues” I’ve seen are new values of importance for object and texture pop-in. Basically, its been a bug free experience so far without anything worse than a few graphical trade-offs.

To be super fucking clear, I prefer to game on PC. My rig puts my xbox one x to shame, but I prefer the X1X because its easy (and portable) to set up with a projector and game in the middle of the woods with a 30 foot canvas screen in 16:9 fastened between pine trees. I’m telling you, playing at night in the forests of Rattay while in forest of the Mogollon Rim is pretty spectacular.

I’m done with the negativity unless its deserved again, and as of now, WarHorse Studio’s is swinging a Clydesdale Dick

TL:DR - Erased previous game saves, reformatted xbox one x, downloaded KC:D 1.4.3, started new game, cant put it down after six hours!

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#2

Anyone who thinks otherwise at this point is just ignorant. WarHorse isn’t even tryin to lie well anymore. Pretty much every excuse they’ve given has been debunked.

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#3

Odd perspective, though I can’t say I disagree.

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#4

You guys need to sell your games and move on. This game is obviosly not for you. Don’t let your dissatisfaction with a game take up so much of your time. There are a lot of people who are very happy with the game as it is. I for one am hear regularly, eagerly looking for what WH might do next.

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#5

i agree tbh. console plebs are just dead weight, focus on the pc.

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#6

Hey I’m on ps4! :frowning_face:

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#7

Hilarious how I’m criticizing WarHorse and yet you think its appropriate to tell me what to do with my game or my time. Don’t like what I’m saying? GO POUND SAND.

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#9

Id do the same on Forza forums to warn about Microsofts practise and handling of PC systems (intentional crippling and impossible to rely upon product), but forza forums being ruled with an iron fist banned my account for listing product issues.

Even though the devs were emailing with me directly and I was super helpful for all involved; I got banned for questioning why another player got banned…

The player in question had modified their video drivers using aspects from two branches of driver to get around an introduced massive load delay that Microsoft were obviously keen to keep in (for months).
They nuked his game claiming hacking when really they were an asset to the communitynof players working to improve gameplay for all.

This wasnt mods.
This wasnt tricky.

It was a bastard big company wiping over the little guys. They actually removed 10000 thread posts for the PC section of the game when they wanted to sell their next title (forza 7).

The threads held solutions for most known game issues, such as where to download a 4mb fix to make the xbox login software work. The same fix that gets around having to reinstall windows and redownload a 60gb game to get up and running.
I have argued with microsoft support for hours asking for a link to their file, only to have support constantly push reinstall, reinstall, reinstall.

Forza patches only ever made the game worse until the final one which finally allowed the game to not put framerate limiting work all onto one core, restoring great framerate to everyone.
They were nice enough with that patch to massively reduce high detail draw distances so that ninja pcs remained inferior to a cheap console (which also had split screen gameplay and HDR).
Also forced it to online only (for PC), which for me was the final straw as I bought the game as an alternative to ‘The Crew’ which required online. (And had crap driving physics by comparison)

I still play both games and even though forza 3 horizon is my fave racing game (I am an Aussie/its set in my old stomping zone) ‘the crew’ were way better for support and improvements.

KCD have proven themselves to be improvemwnt focused. They have my trust which is exceptionally hard to earn.
The genuine actions they have given since release (actions not words) means I will consider them for future purchases.

Forza 7 in principle will never grace my pc even though the demo is beaut and I like it.

I even give up a ninja PC with wheel and clutch pedal/shifter and 21:9 ultra graphics to play controller racers on console.

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#10

I don’t,mean to counter you as I believe what you said however I must say I hope they release on consoles in the future I cant afford a pc and strategically they would be burning bridges that benefit them.

It also it isn’t beyond my belief that people from Microsoft the sarkesian branch would try to sabotage them. The pie they had,on,their face on the release date of kcd

Polygon having to cover it because of its success,after gloating about how they won’t cover it because “its waycist an dai no da wei” to Marxism 600,000,000.0 “muh colored marginalized people in ancient Europa”

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#11

I can dig being improvement focused. That’s a vital part of business growth. Its also a boat on dry land without deploying said improvements. Waehorse has a serious problem with deploying improvements.

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#12

Not at all.
They have been held back from delivering on improvements.

Their issue is a subset of their userbase.

Eg.
WH Game version one. Day one large patch.
Users: big download is bad. Some reviewers didnt even grab it.
WH rapid patch to fix issues
Users: too quick- patch introduces more bugs
WH slows patch releases
Users: patches too slow

(In context many companies dont deliver in any gorm of bug patch, or only when forced by a vendor for continued sales- many companies move onto new paid for content or a sequel)

WH increases testing of patches- catches a bug or two and has to delay some patches.
Users (PC): damn we have been given introduced issues- you bastards!
Console Users: give us the patches that break stuff cause it will fix other stuff! (We know how this would play out)

Easter - WH had the major update ready to go- presubmitted for all platforms to release for the easter break.
Catching a bug on pc platform, quickly addressed it but were required by Sony/Microsoft to resubmit.

Sony are on it. (Updates have been sent to them later and turned out quicker)
Microsoft are dogs about it. They could do something but they dont.

If the entity that is mocrosoft wasnt so large and anyone could have meaningful discourse with them this could be alleviated.

Ya think Turn 10 or any internal MS studio has same turnaround times? (No). KCD could have been given some special treatment if MS wanted to help out- given that their platform is coming off worse for the very quality assurance it is trying to ensure.

Personally Id have vastly preferred this game launch on ps4 and pc… the ps4 release a month after pc.

Microsoft have had market rules for a long time that in order to launch on their platform it has to be before other platforms or not at all.
When they built a vastly underpowered console and backedit with anticonsumer practices many gamers jumped ship to Sony/playstation.
MS now fighting hard to get back to being a player in the console market (dont underestimate Sony lead with installed units that MS will never catch)
They ease up on some of their requirements on developers.

If they want to play nice they can.

I blame warhorse only for considering the xbox as a platform for their game in the first place.

The xbox one/one s/one x is stupid to have to optimise for. The differences between one and one s would preclude me supporting that platform. (If decision were mine).
Xbox x trying to market as 4k means they went for higher res (1400p) res and thirty fps (likely at MS wishes).
Would have been better at 1080 res and fourty plus framerates (feels like an arcade game). But that wouldnt sell xbox x’s nor look better on box shots.

Ps4 and pro are easy and relatively consistant.

This isnt cell processor (risc) vs cisc like the xbox vs ps3 days.
All platforms have same underlying hardware.
Ps4 was 40% more powerful than xbox one.
That should have been the low point cutoff for thirty frames per second.

Game would be way better if not for the huge issues that working with mocrosoft entails.

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#14

Wow, pretty much me in my teens years, so I kinda understand this rage :slight_smile: With that said, it’s pretty sad that you focus your time and energy on a “crusade” against a company for a 40 or 50 bucks video game that did not work out for you. Thruth be told, no matter how loud you scream and how hard you bash your fists against the wall, there will be still people who will buy their - possible - next products.

I doubt you will see reason and just move on though. It would be easier and healthier for you to just get rid of the game and not buy anything from warhorse in the future. Done. But here we are, and I’m just getting myself a bit more popcorn for the ride :smiley:

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#15

I just come to these forums to laugh at angry children these days. There is some extremely cringeworthy material in here. Thanks for the thread. :wink:

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#16

That’s not a good take on the 1.4-1.4.3 release

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#17

So we’re back to blaming Microsoft for WarHorse mismanaging their own patching schedule and failing to get pass the Xbox cert. Your wall of text doesn’t change that literally nothing has changed.

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#18

Yeah - not being an employee of any of these firms I have the freedom to poke the snake basket.i agree I didnt acknowledge anything to do with patch release issues.

This thread isnt one to leave in a serious way.
The first two posts are alt accounts running around backing themself.

So might as well donall the typical things that encite stupidity.
(Like platform warring and blaming users for their difficulties)

I actually agree that console users must be peeved at the huge wait for an essential patch.

#19

Sony and MS are just middle men. WH tweeted below. Still within next week window per tweet

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#20

No Id prefer that xbox as a platform was fully refunded and the game was removed from sale for it.

Then devs could focus on what matters.

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#21

Your preference and bias are less relevant than the customers who bought XB version in good faith. Returning that good faith by fixing bugs for that platform is what matters

WH made the bed; they need to lie in it

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