Mount & Blade, eat your heart out

What I wanted to say in short, M & B is a sandbox with too little sand, KC is a mountain of sand and the box is missing … :wink:

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m&b=top down meta world. go from village to city, to castle, etc. load instance for siege, load pre-fab instance for open battle. battles play out in small, hilly potato landscape arenas with spawning waves, really basic npc interaction. 4 direction hack and slash combat.

i’m glad kcd is taking it way further. the combat is just so much better, as is everything else.

bannerlord looks exactly like warband with slightly better face models and some better textures and sub maps. after kcd i don’t see the point of playing that unrealistic, cartoon looking game with cartoon armors and cartoon combat. just because you have the overhead meta map? and everything else is poor? not worth it.

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Mount & Blade… damn i played alot of that game. I think I almost made it to a 1000 hours and I can’t wait for bannerlord!

You can hardly claim that KC: D is some revolutionary thing that’ll sweep M&B aside. Thats a lie, it couldn’t ever hope to replace that game. The charm is that you make your own story because the game has none of its own, the story of KC: D will ultimately come to an end while M&B could go on for hundreds of hours.

how is it a lie when every trailer and video proves it already? the charm of m&b is also the reason it can never be realistic. way too lax, way too loose, not a real medieval experience. you go from some peasant to a king. totally original and realistic story. not really. i don’t see the charm in that. it’s same as every other generic rpg came before it. it just doesn’t have magic and dragons. i call it half ass attempt at realism.

but good effort, i do not deny that to m&b devs. they made some inroads to better rpg, i think.

I first heard of Mount and Blade in a forum discussion about fighting from horse backs in The Elder Scrolls - Oblivion. I downloaded it and after few hours I buyed the Key. :smiley:
It was the time when it was still an open beta. After that I played it a lot with several mods, the same with Warband.

Because Mount and Blade and KC: D offer substancially different experience and focus on completely different things? I mean, calling Mount and Blade a ‘cartoon looking game with cartoon armors and cartoon combat’ just shows your bias against it - if you can’t recognise how actual cartoony graphics style looks like when put next to Mount and Blade, you either have problems with your eyesight or you are purposefully twisting facts to play out in your favour.

Anyway, to the comparison itself. Mount and Blade is a game that goes against everything KC: D is supposed to be. KC is supposed to be a story-based game, whereas Mount and Blade offers you as much freedom as humanly possible. KC is a game about a story of a single character with occassional big fights, whereas in Mount and Blade, you’re trying to amass an army and gain territory. They both have comabt system, and I don’t know how about you, but I am yet to play that in KC, whereas I know for a fact I enjoy the one in MaB. At any rate, they’re two absolutely different games. KC won’t remove my reason to play MaB, just as MaB doesn’t remove my need for more traditional approach to RPGs.

You don’t like MaB, yeah, we get that - no need to spread misinformation and twist its purpose to suit what you just happen to be saying

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m&b is like wolfentstein 3d. really good for its time. totally outdated and useless now.:wink:

A product, well a videogame at any rate, becomes outdated when it is replaced. What exactly replaces Mount and Blade? Because I want to play that.

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Mount & blade is maybe outdated, but you just have to look at the forum, who is very busy even after all those years.

I personnly buyed skyrim and TW: rome 2 but in the end mount&blade is the game i play the most. :smile:
When i look at the time spend playing m&b i just hate myself for “wasting” so much time with a game :smiley:

I really hope that KCD will have a good replayability like mount&blade.
If the modder community is there they surely will deliver us so much more hours of good gameplay.

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Although I agree with you that M&B wasn’t delivering at all what KC will bring now but to call it outdated is a very harsh and in my opinion wrong statement.
Old? For sure! Technoligical below average? Without any doubt!
But oudtated and useless? No! And this is for a simple reason. Because of its modability and the sprawling community it is still a Titan among the sanbox games which keeps selling copies on a regular base. Every day there are around 50 new mods, 10 of them which really have potential (check the numbers at taleworlds). Something becomes useless and outdated when it becomes obsolete and unwanted. And if you spend 10 minutes in the forums of M&B you will see that this is absolutely not the case.

A game which ist still having such a strong and living community and which is still growing like hell every day can’t be called useless, assumed you are playing more than the vanilla game… because the vanilla game, yes, this old pitiful thing is outdated. But there are mods out there which are beyond anything the vanilla game could provide.

This whole situation may change with the release of M&B Bannerlord but for sure not with the release of KC.
I love this project here and it is the most promising thing I’ve seen for years. But again, these are two absolutely different games and one can’t cover all the aspects of the other.

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Mount&Blade is okay, but i see KingdomCome as the next step: mixture of M&B and Skyrim maybe.

Going with the Crysis engine was the best decision ever!

I am also a fan of Mount and Blade, especially Warband. As some chaps have already mentioned, the re-playability is a big thing in M&B and if this game gets it right I really hope this will be similarly good. Of course it will be different, as it sounds like this will have a specific story, but if this the team create a game like I hope it will be I will be more that capable of wasting as much or more time as I have with M&B.

In fact, I might have very little time indeed with M&B 2 on the horizon also…

I think M&B has a very interesting combat and army system, but I think the role playing part in it falters a lot.

But I mainly want this game because it seems unique and advanced.

Sounds like a skill issue.

@IIIMuerteIII

M&B is the bleeding edge of game technology. Rts-action-rpg combinations have been attempted for decades, but M&B was the first one worth playing and still hasn’t seen any competition, six years later. Compare that with the lifecycle and prevalence of the average fps or qte rpg and you might get the idea that those games are fast cars and M&B is a space shuttle.

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I’m a huge fan of Mount&Blade and i can tell you that i can’t wait to play Kingdom Come!

M&B Rules! …at least for now, till KCD is out…
but i liked only warband, with fire and sword didn’t get me…

and i think KCD goes on the road paved by M&B some years ago. i would not be that famous if there where no M&B.

i hope some features of M&B will be implemented in KCD later on, like raising troops, companions, owning castles, multiplayer arenas etc. we will see…

Something like I see it. The first KSD is a “Base Product” which will ever be great fun. Further development will also depend on what happens with other developers by 2015.
The last word has always been the market. We will see.

So in etwa sehe ich das auch. Das erste KSD wird ein “Basisprodukt” was schonmal viel Spaß machen wird. Die weitere Entwicklung wird auch davon abhängen, was bei anderen Entwicklern bis 2015 passiert.
Das letzte Wort hat immer der Markt. Man wird sehen.

M&B’s magic is the combat system and the multiplayer, not the campaign. If you watch Native duel tournaments or play cRPG you will see the potential of the game.

The campaign is ok, but where Warband shines is in the combat system.

I love M+B so much. Warband modded with Floris is by far one of the best gaming experience’s I have ever had, because it made these ridiculous memories like taking a castle with sixty men then defending it from three hundred with those same sixty men. I hope this game can come even slightly close to that