Player jobs, professions, and work

I recommend to implement a choice between the name “Henry” and “Henriette”, and nothing else changes. The character model stays, the quests stay, the dialogues stay. It’s all about equality! :smiley:
…okay, I know, that was cruel, but I’m not even ashamed.

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Again like i said very rare. He even said most of it was myth and legend. It was extremely uncommon for women to fight on the battlefield like i said i can count them on my fingers. His post also said nothing about them fighting just being leaders. So once again you have provided no evidence and he didn’t either.

It isn’t bad idea… only what is needed, new, are the players voice files
Save this for a Mod concept… maybe the dev’s help if the mod will work good!

Jeanne d’Arc (1431) ?

She didn’t even fight just was a morale booster and lead troops. Thats really the only example people can say and phydra is trying to make it sound like women fighting back then was just as common as men.

okay than i said nothing :blush: only heard about her

I did scroll up and read the posts, yours is the first to mention anything about women unless some other post is hidden or was deleted. In any case you are the only one to continue to perpetuate the argument. Honestly, why bother having topics in these things if people will just go off the rails at every turn. Kind of like the threads about the historical significance of homosexuals in the time period that just turned into monkeys flinging poo at each other.

Are you talking to me or phydra?

Phydra…aside from the one initial comment, nothing she’s posted has to do with ideas about jobs or professions for Henry. I couldn’t care less about people’s opinions on gender roles in games and such but I would like very much for threads to be somewhat related to the subject :smile:

Exactly and she’s been pretty rude to quite a few people in this thread. She keeps going on and on about how tons of females fought back then and has no evidence to back it up.

In fact Jean d’ Arc even sent a open letter to the Hussites. :smiley:

http://archive.joan-of-arc.org/joanofarc_letter_march_23_1430.html

An interesting insight into her sick mind hooked by the “only valid truth” of her.

For the record, I’m only rude in response… something you certainly cannot claim.

The simple fact is, there is enough history on women fighters in history for any reasonable person to conclude:

  1. They existed.
  2. They weren’t “rare” so much as the culture and society of the time simply didn’t consider them “important enough” to mention outside of “famous” instances that couldn’t be easily ignored.
  3. #2 speaks more to the classic boundaries of educational access and writing than to anything else.

It amuses me how many of you simply cannot wrap your heads around history and the realities of anthropology as applies to the state of women in/at war. The case can be made and, while WH has made it clear that they aren’t interested (and I have repeatedly stated it’s not a big deal to me), I do and likely will continue to contest factually inaccuracies when they are given as “justification”.

First and foremost, WH doesn’t need justification.

Secondly, if you’re going to try to give it, you might want to make sure you have at least half a clue before you attempt to do so.

Finally, the offering would be more attractive to the market if there were more things to do and more (and different ways to do them). Since there’s not a lot of focus in history on men doing much more than “battle stuff” when at war, it would make sense to have some means other than NPCs to present them. Perhaps an expansion, who knows.

But to turn the argument back to you, I’d love to see how you’d face the assertion that men never repaired clothing, washed it, or did other “domestic” things when at war because… hey… no one wrote about it. (chuckle)

Again I retort…what does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread!? If you want to continue this bickering, do it with PM’s. There is no need to be rude at all. If you can’t reply to a rude comment without being rude yourself then you are no better than the people you’re arguing against. Nobody here has said that women NEVER fought however at this time in this setting it was definitely not a common occurrence (even your article stops 1000 years short of the game setting). Now I please ask you kindly, can you either add more thoughts/ideas about player professions or stop arguing. A simple request I feel.

There is no proof it wasn’t common, there is only proof it wasn’t often recorded. If you cannot understand the difference and how it plays into jobs, professions, and work in a medieval setting, I really don’t know what to tell you.

There is no proof that it was common either, as the one arguing the point, the burden of proof is on you. Also, I can think of different things that might apply if there were a female character but that’s not the point. You are continuing to argue a point without adding anything productive to the conversation. This thread was meant for people to come up with different ideas for jobs or ways to implement those jobs, not to argue over who did those jobs. I really don’t know what to tell you to get this back on track except to say stop arguing for the sake of arguing because clearly nothing good is coming out of this.

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None of those examples were in the medieval period. In pretty much every major account of a medieval battle their is absolutely no mention of female combatants except Joan of arc. All of those examples are thousands of years before the medieval area. Thanks for proving my point once again. Half of your examples dont even include them actually physically fighting themselves. Im just laughing my ass off right now i ask you for examples of women fighters in the medieval period and all of them are B.C. And like i said i could count the number on my fingers because it WAS VERY RARE.

Now back to the actually topic. If Warhorse doesn’t have player jobs im sure modders will add them. As much as i hate skyrim it has good player job mods i suggest that anyone who likes player jobs check them out.

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I think there is no need to discuss if woman in combat were rare or not in the middle ages cause they clearly have been rare. And theres no need to discuss anything concerning man/woman in this thread. Thank god theres another thread for that I dont have to participate in, cause imo these discussions make no sense

men are not women and they shouldnt be handled equal there are quite a few differences between the genders and its good like this. And I dont like the current development that everything should be equal even in historical retroperspective

Back to topic please

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Yeah … bla bla bla about character
Back to topic.
Why some new guy write something to it and write at the bottom Back to tpoic.
And after that you still write about it again. That i call Logic :facepalm:

BACK 2 TOPIC or i will report this!

Quite alright; I’m laughing myself over the ignorance of thinking because women in war didn’t get the notice that men did, “obviously” they were rare.

Personally, I’d like to see in future both a woman fighter (it should be a harder path, as this thread clearly demonstrates).

I’d like like to see trades and professions that are allocated to men or women based upon historical commonality or reference. Not only would this neatly place women where they belong in a historically accurate game, it would allow the game to more fully attract the larger market audience… both good things.