Random Encounters: Ambushed By Peasants? Really?

If I am in full plate armor, on horseback, and armed to the teeth with a mace and shield, why in the world would a peasant try to attack and rob me with nothing other than an axe and the worn out clothing on his back? I love the random encounter system when it works (Cuman attacks, Wayward Knights, and the Riddle guy). However, it feels like in the late game it is not worth my time to fight these peasant bandits for the 15 coin in their inventory nor is it entertaining to kill them with one hit. I would like to see enemy encounters scale up realistically with player progression using main level or level of armor, weapons, and combat skills to gauge what enemies should spawn. I would also like to see more variety added to the ambush encounters by way of different methods of attacking me or through different enemy types. For example, I wouldn’t mind if I was suddenly attacked by 9 peasant bandits at the same time (trying to overrun me) because at least it would present a challenge but being attacked by one or two peasant bandits is unrealistic and boring.

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I second this

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Roads are dangerous mod? I got this one and an Immersive balance mod and the gameplay is 100% better maybe more :grinning:

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I play on the PS4 Pro :confused:

Ergot poisoning, or too much moonshine, or just plain mental illness / dropped on their head.

I agree that, for the first 100 hours, the randoms seem to be a bit . . . “lacking” but the more I’ve played it the more satisfying I’ve found them to be. I’ve been attacked by squads of trained and capable fully kitted mercs (probably Westerner deserters from Siggie’s army) who literally forced me to flee (despite being quite well armed, armored and leveled) to a couple unarmed numbskulls who gave me an opportunity to practice unarmed and stealth (knock him out, wait for him to wake up, stealth take down) and everything in between.

When/if you have played it like 100+ hours and have kept track of every rando you experience and can tell us what proportion are the unarmed schmoos then you have a basis to complain.

Think about it from their perspective - all they see is that they’re six and you’re alone. They have no idea that you’re actually level 20 and a master swordsman. And peasants with polearms can actually be quite dangerous. I think it’s fun.

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not buyin’ it. you’re riding atop the best stallion :horse_racing: in the land (Jenda) and equipped with the preeminent armor :shield: and weapons :crossed_swords: that money can buy. at very best, it’s a high risk, high reward situation.

what makes it worse is what happens after they make their intention known. you create space (ride horse down path) and nail one of them in the head with an arrow :bow_and_arrow::skull: , the others chase after you. :man_facepalming: kill another. the remaining continue :man_facepalming::man_facepalming: kill yet another. repeat :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

now if the riffraff shot out the horse and tried to immobilize you
 maybe. but they don’t

can’t speak about Czechia but generally common criminals in the US give a wide berth to guys driving down the road atop military grade transportation and armed with military grade equipment. btw, it would be a masterstroke if WH could code a nuance
 the more ‘military’ like you are in appearance, the less likely the NPCs attack and more likely to flee combat

played over 1000h. the unarmed schmoos seem to trigger about 30% of the time at the red boxes (at least the one on the S portion of the forested Rattay-Sasau loop.). the other times are Cuman or armed bandits. btw, riding back and forth between the blue circle (battle spawn point) and the red box (ambush spot) in question is a glorious way to harvest bad guys and their equipment
 the distance resets the trigger

Fair enough. The random encounters should perhaps surrender more and/or sooner. Surrendering is obviously implemented into the game and there are several examples where it works very well (like the bandit camp just east of Rattay).

agree. like many things in KCD 
 a little more nuance/complexity/variety in NPC behavior and the game would change from (very) good/great to positively sublime

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I’m glad you were the “bad cop” once again. You do it much more deftly than me :smiley:

Of course I agree: more nuanced NPCs would be great. I also don’t think that them programming the entities to do what people are asking for would be “difficult.” There is after all, at least one perk which makes it more likely enemies flee. There must already be some chance that they flee from the outset (or shortly after combat initiates). Maybe they just need to tweak these dynamics a bit?

I actually find that I spend a fair amount of time chasing NPCs around trying to kill them to take their half rotten carrots and cheap hatchets! :smile:

Of course, one thing that has to be kept in mind is that: there are plenty of complaints on the board or the internet more broadly, that there are “not enough” random encounters. There is even that mod (which now seems to be broken by an update? I couldn’t get it to work . . .) which is supposed to add more randos to the roads, which tells us: Enemies that run away more often–and perhaps even before the player can get off their horse and initiate the fight–are likely to upset as many people as would be pleased.

ADDIT: and I’m not sure what you mean by

the red boxes (at least the one on the S portion of the forested Rattay-Sasau loop.). the other times are Cuman or armed bandits. btw, riding back and forth between the blue circle (battle spawn point) and the red box (ambush spot) in question is a glorious way to harvest bad guys and their equipment
 the distance resets the trigger

Is that something on the map in normal mode? I played for about 80 hours in normal but now 240 or so hardcore.

look at the map

https://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/a/7a45f700e2683336509433f5ae5d0e6eb4fad6c6.jpeg

I had never seen that; but of course it makes perfect sense with my experience playing the game.

Shame they didn’t include any roaming randos . . .

a couple thoughts.
(1) Henry is the only one on a horse. running away won’t be easy. and, leaves the bloodlust factor up to you in terms of whether you pursue or move on
(2) shouldn’t be an absolute behavior. should be conditional. depends on what henry ‘looks like’. poor schmuck Henry 
 attack to the death. middling Henry
 give it a shot but flee/surrender once initiative lost. knight in shining armor Henry
 unless youve got archers to take out the horse and polearms to swarm Henry, just run

static randos are part of the problem. they spawn like hell (at least to me) but you have to visit hell. roaming randos (within quadrant/sector Henry’s in) will vastly increase perception of event frequency. probably so much, one could probably even reduce the overall number of rando events

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Yeah, once I distinctly heard them calling me a disgusting Cuman I think because i had on some pieces of Cuman armor like leg armor. I, of course, owned them pretty quickly. I tend to kill all bandits, Cumans, Etc. who attack me even if they surrender because hey, they don’t seem to give me any leeway.

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Well, some peasant ambush will trigger the surrender option ( similar to when a guard wants to search you) and you can talk them out of it. You’ll find out some of those are peasants grouping together to protect their loved ones and their belongings from roaming bandits and cumans and mistook you for one of those. Tell them you work for Sir Radzig and they’ll apologise.

Your adoptive dad was right: sometimes, talking is the better option to avoid useless bloodshed :wink:

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Well, now I feel bad. :slight_smile:

lol, just fucking kill them, theyre peasants; open season

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My complaint is the opposite: after a certain level you get bandits in Milanese plate. Come on. They are way better equipped than the nobles. I get it that some special in story bandits should be well armed or armored, but not every thug you run across.

For your complaint I would like to see the AI think it through. If there are five peasants maybe they think they can get lucky. Losing a couple wouldn’t be too much of a price to pay for your horse, weapons and armor. OTOH two guys with sticks would probably not take the chance.

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i get what you are saying but i think the game would be a lot more boring if you didnt get in fights with equally well equipped enemies