Realism, How far should it be taken

What do you mean? What is your argument?

Sorry cant trust your ex military anyone can claim something over the internet.

May i ask what race you are ,Black ,White, Hispanic, Asian? If you love to go looking for fights then you are dangerous to society and should be locked up tight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw
Good luck “fighting off knife attackers with a broom” unless your fucking Bruce lee.

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the whole point of a video game is to experience things you couldnt do in real life , like butchering an entire town men women and children then graciously ride into the sun set without a care in the world . If you try and add morals or rules to games i think you’re destroying the whole purpose of why people game .

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wow dood. It’s funny how a guy can say one thing, and another can hear something completely different. You don’t need to be bruce lee to stand up to punks. You don’t need to be a martial arts expert to protect your friends. If you think that everyone who points a gun at you or holds a knife is dangerous then you’re completely ignorant of that part of humanity, and I’m happy for you that you pretty much live in a bubble away from conflict, except online. Never did I say I go looking for fights. However two things people have continuously tried to harm me for in my life. The first being my skin color. It’s white and of course my genitalia being male also upsets people these days. Then I’m gay, and you know what that upsets people to. Do I choose any of these three things? No. Did I ask to be attacked for any reason
no. However people are idiots. All throughout history and people will always choose things to be idiots about though they may change across time. We don’t live on an ideal planet. We aren’t the most ideal species, but we are what we are. We live with that and we find a way to survive. I survive because I learned to enjoy the fights thrust upon me. I joined the military because I couldn’t stand ass wholes killing innocent people who are just trying to survive. People who just want to live in peace, find love, and be with their families. So next time you want to badger someone online because they live a life different from yours. Don’t. Just try to learn. Realize that what you know is not everything and there is always a reason to learn.

More people are murdered or mugged by “punks with knifes or guns” then trained people with knifes or guns. I wasn’t hardly badgering you but you looked at being attacked by people with knives as a pleasant and experience and then proceeded to say you love a good fight. You say people attack you because you’re gay? How would they know unless of course you were throwing it in their faces or screaming about it in public like a lot of gays do. If you are really being attacked this often then you might be the problem here. A person who would attack someone for as stupid a reason as there skin color would be a very dangerous person especially if they were armed. Read about or watch any knife attack and you will know how foolish and arrogant your attitude towards them sounds.

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I would continue this back and forth with you, but it’s off topic. I will end with this though. Your arrogance offends decent people. You stand on a soap box with your chest puffed out claiming you’re smarter and a better person than those around you. Yet all you speak is ignorance to people with experience. You’re the guy who would piss your pants when being mugged then afterwards make a speech about how you deserved to be mugged because of white privilege or some other nonsense. I’m the guy who comes in to save your ass. You don’t need to be trained, I wasn’t for a long time, and what you call throwing my sexuality in peoples faces I call holding my boyfriends hand. Or kissing him. If you wish to continue to throw your ignorance at me save your self the embarrassment of doing it in public and just shoot me a PM. as I said this is off topic.

Funny seeing how anyone who doesn’t agree with you is ignorant and inexperienced. You really think you’re something don’t you?

Cant say how i would react because ive never been mugged but i wouldn’t say i deserved to be mugged and i certainly wouldn’t spout off about white privilege.

So you go around at night fighting crime on the streets and save people in distress using nothing but a mop. I can sleep well at night knowing mop man is watching over me.

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Dear Madaras,

it’s ok when you’re gay but why do you have to tell about that in this forum? It sounds like you wanted to tell people about a serious desease although it is just a simple and absolutely unimportant thing of your privacy. There is no reason to publish it and i think that no one really cares about it.
When it comes to the game I would like to have many opportunities without any moral assessment. When I am in the mood I would like for example to decide to report a gay person so he or she gets burned(or whatever) or I like to have the ability to say ok I won’t report this person because I don’t think that burning is appropriate.
I don’t like games where you have to be the “good” guy or the “bad” one. It should depend on your decisions and there should be many important ones of them so you have a big influence on the world, your reputation and your abilities.

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So you are saying that there are armed attackers who are actually not dangerous?

I would really like to know in what place on Earth a person faces constant attacks by agressors with knives and guns but the attackers are incompetent to the point that an average Joe with no special training can fend them off without being stabbed/shot in the process.

we can all rest easy

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no what i think he means is that many that carry weapons wouldnt have the balls to actually use them . which is true id say about 70% wouldnt actually use them but it is a gamble.

also disarming someone isnt that hard , by that i dont mean do a round house kick and kick the knife from his hand but more like throwing yourself in the most unfashionable way at his wrist with the knife . a gun is a different kettle of fish but a knife is pretty much useless if you cant thrust it , of course he could slash but if you have hold of his wrist you’re restricting him of strength then its a matter of forcing it off him and if you have done it correctly you will have your entire strength concentrated on that one hand and you should be able to take it off him .

of course success depends on how many of them there are etc

Yeah, sure.

And if not, you’re dead,

So he switches the hand, easily.

If you have entire strength concentrated on the hand with knife, how do you tackle the rest of him, not to mention that he still has second hand and two knees to deliver pain with?

no he cant switch hand as you would have a grip of his hand and wrist and clearly the knife .
if you imagine both you hand around someone elses single hand you would be in complete control of that hand would you not ?

i would recommend putting your right leg behind his right leg and shoving back and he will go down .
a punch and a knee are far better than a stab wound.
you will get the knife off him as long as you are an average sort of size

i would also recommend screaming for some help during all of this most likely someone will hear and help or call the police if you dont have the strength to fully disarm him

I really don’t want to add too much to this conversation (since objectively I can’t), but

My experience is, that if I have time to react against a guy who at least barely knows what to do with a blade, my best bet is to run as fast as I can - and if I do not have the time, well, then I’m fcked anyways.
I’ve practiced in my HEMA group late middle age techniques with and against the rondell dagger based on the advanced knowledge of the body mechanics and wrestling, and they work beautifully! Up until the point, where we started to do a little free sparring. One-on-one, dagger against bare hands. Let me tell you, how many times did the dagger win, and/or cause - virtually - serious injury, when suddenly the dagger wielder did not play by the book: Practically every time.
So, I’m really happy about all the experienced fighters in the topic, but if someone asks me to stand against a dagger or a knife, I respectfully refuse and get the f
ck out of there through the window.
By the way, I do not remember
 how exactly does all that connect to KCD?

Edit: And yes, it is a valid possibility that I am simply a below average fighter, such as everyone else in my group, but I am still not too convinced about the chances against an armed and at least minimally skilled (or angered) foe. :]

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Well KCD forum has attracted quite a few specialists in hand-to-knife combat who have great experience in street fights and disarming armed attackers. All the trainers of self defense who wrote countless books describing that unarmed person has basically next-to-no chance against a determined attacker with knife have nothing on the members of KCD forum, whose new and novel techniques are precious to the point nobody has ever heard of them.

If one of the main possibilities of the character development involves thievery, then covert use of knife against unassuming opponent will surly be on the table. If modern experts come to the conclusion that there are very, very little chances of survival for the attacked person, I wonder in which way will the game implement it.

yes of course if you can run then run

no one here claims to be experts .

i received hand to hand training in the military that included disarming people with a variety of weapons .
@Madaras would likely have also been trained in hand to hand combat to a decent level . its part of basic training.
of course nothing is 100% but very simple techniques can increase your chances greatly of coming out of the situation alive .

also not a single one of the techniques in that video you posted was even worth while as he was leaving the knife wielding hand completely unattacked , go for the knife and you will have far greater success than going for his empty hand
Also the chnaces are you wont ever face a determined attacker with a knife outside of a warzone they are just after your possessions and have no real intention of harming you any more than they have too

I feel like brightening the place up a little bit. Let’s all be bros. (Yes even you ladies can be bros too)

this made me giggle .
this is what happens when complete dick heads have access to weapons

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