There are two threads about this video on the first page of the forum alone…
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Interesting post, I too hope Warhorse make archery to be something awesome, hard to master but easy to use at basic levels. Check out this video http://9gag.tv/p/a503ZA/everything-you-know-about-archery-is-a-lie
If any game has a chance of getting it right, it’s KCD!!!
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Fellow 9gagger, hellooo!
you honestly think that’s the only place you can find and repost videos like that?
How I hate those videos …
Doing Hollywood Style Matrix Trickshots and talking about historical accuracy at the same time … lol …
He may be good at doing his trickshots but imho those videos don´t represent historical accurate archery at all.
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I swear to god, if I see this video one more goddamn time in the KCD forums, with comments like “historical”…
This guy grabbed the work of thousands of people for around a hundred years, and gave it a spit in the face, and pushed back the sober, sane uptake about historical archery for about a ten years just with one video, basically with one word. This is the “the pharmaceutical companies all lie, you can cure cancer with just a simple plant” of archery. I’m full of it.
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ok maybe it’s because English is not my mother language but I got the impression that I’ve asked a simply question to you because I consider you more expert on history thant me and I just want to learn and you treat me badly.
Since this guy pretend to be realistic I though that the best place to know if he is right is to ask in a topic about “Realistic archery”, if you thought my post as a flame I’m sorry but realy was not my intention.
Anyway I got my answer so I’m quite happy with that
You are not in fault; I’m simply pissed off because from now on “everyone” will think that - again - thousands of people, historians, academic people, archeologists, conference attendees, reenactors, all got the whole “archery” thing totally wrong, and everyone that tries to point this out is simply “jealous”.
This guy pulled an “everyone is stupid, I’m the only helicopter here”, and people eat it big time, because everyone loves magic.
The sad part is, that all would have been fine, if he only didn’t address his achievement “historically accurate”.
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Yeah i really dont see any uses for throwing your bow up in the middle of a battle or doing half the crap he was doing.
Those techniques were actually used in Azincourt - the french knights were rolling on the floor laughing - too bad there was a lot of mud this day 
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that’s is the reason why I’ve asked, because I don’t wont to get fool by someone who pretend to be a “messiah”. I can understand that you get mad when someone throw shit on your work or hobby, also I get mad if someone pretend to discredit my work (and happens very often since I’m a physician) but be rude with people who try to learn is the best way to help to spread ignorance
I am sorry, it is probably a misunderstanding. I wasn’t mad of you, or anyone, for that matter. I was mad because I saw how much influence this video has. With that said, if you feel that I personally insulted you, I beg your pardon, I meant no harm.
Furthermore, I should be grateful that you ask questions. I found a relatively well-written reply on a blog, [I’ll share it,] 1 and hopefully this will have some convincing power. : -)
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no problem, I’m glad that we have solved this and thx for the link I’ve found it very interesting =)
Shhhh
We dont talk about him here anymore
We dont say his name nor mention his videos
Though there are several topics where you-know-whos video is commented on.
So to learn of how people here look at You-know-who, here you go:
Lars Andersen: a New Level of Archery, debunked
New Lars Andersen video
The myth of arrow quivers on the back
Archery like the world hasn’t seen in hundreds of years
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You (Baron) posted the Lars Andersen video… so… he shows everything you need to put on the game. Starting by the quiver, that is not on the back of character (please, mate… do it right).
I´m also found of archery. Don´t pratice since the 90´s (I learned and user to shoot on countryside… my family used to desportive hunt on snakes and boars)… no shooting range experience.
I used either composite and traditional bow. I was far from Lars Andersen skills, but have a good aim and rate of fire.
About the lethality. Composite bows are very lethal. They have between 80 and 90lb of “force” and the damage they done is comparable to a .38 revolver. But the traditional bow have only a half of this power, and is no better than a .32. It is one shoot kill if you hit the heart, spine or brain, but you have to land a lot of arrows if you want to kill something without hitting the lethal parts.
The problem that every game have is hit points. In real life, if I hit your liver you wont die in minuter or hours (by bleeding and/or infection), but you will surely be out of fight. But in a usual videogame you just lost some HP and can strike me back. So, the problem is not the arrow damage, is the effect in virtual bodies. How to manage this in a videogame? the old Operation Flashpoint and ArmA franchise give you the answer.
About the aim. You can´t put a crosshair. Modern bows, even with aim reticle aren´t acurate. You need a lot of years of pratice to start to pinpoint, and even then, you will still miss some shoots, especialy during action (when my family hunted boars there was aways someone holding a shootgun to the ocasion of the animal come less than 20m close to us… just in case). But them comes the crossbow. That thing is very powerfull (comparable to a carbine) and precise, even in distances over 100 or 150 meters. You can literaly have a rate about one shoot one kill. With a ordinary bow you must be Robin Hood or Legolas to do that. First time I shooted with one of those the bolt pierced all the aparatus on the target pratice, a hollow brick wall and stopped inside the engine of gramma washing machine (that was “so happy” about it lol). It´s no odd that this weapon was banned by a lot of kingdoms back in time. It is the same when yankes used their shootguns in WW1 trenches.
Whatever. KCD is a realistic game but not a simulator. I wished this is a sim (as ArmA… but good), but I also like irreal gameplay (as Skyrim, Dark Souls and even Dragon’s Dogma and Monster Hunter… by the way: I love all those games). So, I´m good with everything you decide. I realy wish a shooting system that let me shoot like Lars Andersen (because that should be very fun)… I wish a crossbow that work like a medieval kind of Barret (without the scope, of corse). And, for God sake… change that TES-copy-UI that even the stoled icon is the same of Skyrim. You are a lot better than this.
S!
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About the lethality. Composite bows are very lethal. They have between 80 and 90lb of “force” and the damage they done is comparable to a .38 revolver. But the traditional bow have only a half of this power, and is no better than a .32.
Source?
No source about the comparison between arrows and bullets… it’s rought target pratice impressions, but I can do some research and calculations here (I will, just need time to get all real data). But the power of different kinds of bows is based on the models factory specs. Reference used is the “Master” products, that is a brazilian trademark (http://www.arcosmaster.com.br/ no english version, sorry). All my bows and crossbow were made by them. I knew (will find the reference) that english longbow has about 80lbs power (Master’s longbow is about 20lbs)… the mongol curved bow is amost the same power. But most of bows used around de world in that time had less power. I believe (especulation) that they were around 40lbs or less.
A roughly comparison video about it:
But the lad used a modern composite bow (by Master’s specs it wont have less than 70lbs), that is probably a lot stronger than a medieval regular bow. It is stronger than that pistol used in video.
But I believe that this discution asks some real data and calculations… and I will do that.
Curiosity: Can you tell me what kind of bow are you trying to representate ingame and what data are you alread using? This will help me a lot.
S!
You are pretty fare from the facts about wood longbows.
The longbows found on the mary rose was mostly 140-160 pounds… (but some down to 100 and up to 180)
Source: The great warbow , by Strickland and hardy
Same book mention that Turkish bows was properly usually 60-100pounds so that fit what you wrote.
Composite bows are more effective. a test with replicas showed that a 74lb wood longbow mange the same velocity as a 60pund composite bow.
I know for a fact that arrows are no where near the lethality of a .38 or really any fire arm. I have an 80lb compound bow, and i hunt rabbits with it on occasion. There have been times where ive shot a rabbit in its mid section and it took almost two hours to die, after it crawled into a drain pipe where i couldn’t get to it.
Mean while, .22s can drop a rabbit instantly with one shot, and a .22 is a hell of a lot smaller than a .38. Arrows to be honest are quite terrible at killing things when compared to bullets.
Just because the arrow was able to slide through the sand easier than the bullet, does not make it stronger. Arrows can actually go through bullet proof glass, it has to do with the way bullets squash up when they hit hard surfaces, but the velocity of an arrow is much lower, as is the force behind it.