Please stop referring to the English … this game is set in Bohemia. The warbow is more likely to look like a Hungarian composite recurve than an English yew warbow.
If you are talking about a bone and sinew composite bow you are still looking at well over a year construction time because certain materials need to dry/age/bond and you would still have a wood base to which those materials are attached.
That’s better … and I don’t argue over the cost of sword versus bow.
My reply is to menno.
I just noticed that was not indicated, I thought that would automatically show if I replied to a certain post instead of clicking the reply button down below.
My reply is to anyone who thinks the English yew warbow will be seen in large numbers in this game. And it actually came from Wales.
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Then it is not aimed at me.
I hope we see a lot of crossbows.
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I attempted to read through the whole thread, but then it became very long and I gave up. With background in viking archery and Japanese Kyuudou, I also find archery in games to be lacking and rather boring. I also don’t like the idea of crosshairs or a lot of ui cluttering. So I thought why not have two (or even three) buttons that determines the speed of your draw. Say X is a fast draw, and Z is a slow draw. With the fast draw both your eyes will be open and the shot will be less accurate. Whereas using the slow draw the player closes one eye making it easier to focus on X-Y axis aim. When doing a fast draw the player will become fatigued faster and will also start shaking faster giving less time to aim. While a slow draw will give the player time to aim while drawing as well as depleting less stamina and being more steady.
I also support the idea of different bow and arrow makes. I think having a scale in game at certain locations lets the player more or less accurately measure the weight of their string, as well as tutors or someone teaching you what arrows to use for what purpose.
Also, no crosshairs. Indication of direction should be given by arrow tip.
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Why should Bohemian bows looks like Hungarian composite bows? There is plenty of other types of wood great for bows. Its same as saying there was english warbows. There would be normal wooden longbows …
Oh yes, there would have been various kinds of bows in use in Bohemia including types similar to the Welsh warbow. But not in large numbers. And since the Hungarians were part of the warring factions, you would have seen their bows in large numbers all over the battlefield.
I am also a archer and have been fustrated about how bows are shown in Games. Also it seems like the only archery that is shown is either Modern upright twanging or Fantasy style twanging.
It’s been shown again and again how archers of the old actually did it and what skill they actually had. Like offhand and off balance, jumping, falling and even being able to fire up to 9 arrows within seconds by changing the way the store the arrows. Rarely you would find a archer with arrows on his back, but rather on his hips. Or on quivers on his Horse.
And for quick firing arrows the had arrows placed between the fingers of the holding hand so the draw hand could quickly seat a new arrow once he has loosed the one at the ready. Also crouched archery is a no no, it is possible but you are only able to half draw the bow at best from that angle. So both range and power would be severly lacking.
I doubt we will see that much in to archery in any game, but i think developers that want to use a bow think more about it then just having the person standing straight as a pole and arrows magicaly spawn out of the character…
the post is very long (i din’t follow the discussion from the start)… I found this video about arrow and warbow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCN7HId-b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZpDIpqDwxI that are quite interesting, I hope you haven’t alredy post them =)
The archery shown in the live stream video and combat video looked very good in my opinion, better than in any game so far.
I like the way archery is done in a realistic way in the PC game “The Hunter”.
For what a Hungarian medieval bow would look like; the Hungarian bowmakers of Grozer have some fine examples …
Also, bows are usually transported unstrung.
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@Ragnar Even the English/Welsh warbow used imported Italian Yew rather than locally grown wood as the Yew from higher regions of the Alps was slow growing and much denser than the Yew grown in England.
There are notes about it in the purchasing accounts of HenryVIII , sorry I don’t have any links to it at the moment.
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You’re correct in that the preferred wood was Italian Alpine yew because of the higher density, but this was by far not exclusive and these longbows were also made in France from French yew when battlefield conditions demanded it.
I think you’re referring to the Mary Rose finds.
It’s nice to see fellow archers on here; I’m shooting a 55 lbs. Bear Super Kodiak myself, which is already a powerful enough bow. I can’t think of making a well-aimed shot with a 100+ lbs. longbow, but then again they were more effective when fired in large numbers.
Have you considered training to get up to the 120-140 lbs range?
At 40+ years? No … should have started training earlier like the English archers.
I am pretty sure you can still pick it up at 30 to 40 years. But it sounds like your an old fart 
Yes, I’m a grumpy old fart so don’t get in front of my bow (’~ , ~’)
It’s not so much about muscle mass, but more about bone strength and tendons.
It’s very easy to get injuries with those poundages, even for trained archers (like Mark Stretton).
Fred Eichler said it well; 55 lbs. is more than enough to kill most large animals and still hold the shot in case the animal moves. Fred Bear went up to 65 lbs., but his style was snap shooting at full draw.
To my rescue; there are no knights in full armour to take in my area (even around the castles).
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I got to shoot during some of the Trebuche shows at Warwick Castle over the Easter weekend.
I did OK since I was the the only one pulling 20lbs (have only been shooting a few months) and I managed to shoot similar distances to those pulling the 30lb and 40lb bows. Obviouly non of the re-enactors archers where near the three guys who the castle pay to do this every day, but to be fair the lightesthey where pulling was 70lb and the others where pulling 100lb.
Found it very hard to keep up with men who can shoot on average about fifteen arrows in a min, in fact on one of the shows much to my personal anger and frustration, I must have turrned slightly to the right side half way through, as my last three shots ended up ten degrees to the right of where my others had landed. Peed off at myself for that one!!
Stll loads of fun, it was my first time shooting in public (in front of a few hundred people) and my first time shooting a volly as part of a large archery line.
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