In shops in KDC, there seems to be chests without keys. They are “Very Hard” locks in the back of shops. For example, in the Rattay Armoursmith’s shop, if you go to the back entrance near the tops of the stairs there is a Very Hard door with several Very Hard chests behind it. What exactly is in these chests and how do you get the keys for them?
Could be the chests where the vendors “selling items” are stored. Doubt there is a Key, But If you Steak from them, Maybe they have nothing left to sell.
Hello, I have lockpicked these chest and they seem to respawn items as well, they include armor and several weapons and whatnot. I can possibly take a photo when it restocks. This goes for other chests at the same level “very hard”. They usually contain armor and or 1500 grochens. Hope this helps
EDIT: The talmberg chest where you see Sir Radzig riding by there’s a door that has a few chest with some items, these also seem to respawn for now and the lower level of the area has a very hard locked chest that includes weapons and shields from that said area.
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I play on the regular xbox one and my lockpicking is 16.
@AnnieTheArc @Dacrimal thank you for responding! It’s a shame they don’t have any keys because I’m abysmal at lockpicking. Is there any way to get lockpicking up quite quickly?
You can lockpick the chest from the miller in Rattay where thereasa is, up the ladder next to your bed. The chest includes a map, dagger and 20 lockpicks along with 500 grochens that respawn, I believe there is also a skill book there about lockpicks. You should definetly read books from the millers all over.
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You could also lockpick and keep failing to get xp. That works too.
@AnnieTheArc I see. I’ll try both methods. Is there a cheap, reliable source of lockpicks I can use to level it up?
Mostly just the one up the ladder where it usually seems to respawn whenever I need to head back to sleep or eat or something else. You could also find them laying around bandits bodies. Lockpicks aren’t really cheap even if you buy them from the millers so I would recommend the chest right next to you basically. I started out with spending all my grochens on these lockpicks because every chest in late game is hard or very hard. Recommended to start early as you get a ton of more grochens from it and items for a value of thousands.
so i understood it right: vendors (they save their stuff in very hard chests overnight) do still have their inventory when they open up the next day after i robbed them? and at the next night they have the same stuff back in their chests ?
btw does anyone know if the stuff they offer change? or is it all time the same ?
I usually rob all the chests and sell it to the millers. Wait a few days and the millers have a lot of gold, converted from the stolen items. Now i have about 258k gold.
When you rob them, they still have a few items to sell (i try with armorsmith) , but when i check his chests is empty.
Just to clarify for everyone.
Every major trader or shopkeeper has the entirety of their wares stored in a chest or chests.
Most, but not all, are very hard and require level 15 lockpicking to attempt. (There is for example a certain stable that has its wares in a fairly easy chest).
Inside the chests is the shops groshen and all of its items. If you take them it takes it from the shops inventory. Some items you can still buy from the shopkeeper after stealing (not sure if its intended or a bug) but if you steal their groshen you cannot sell them anything until respawn.
Their groshen and wares respawn in 24-48 in game hrs. The box that holds the groshen is re-locked but some of the chests and wardrobes will stay unlocked and you can rob them again without lockpicking.
The longer you wait after stealing the more groshen and wares respawn.
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But I think stealing from them also lowers the ammount of money they have. I remember in my first playthrough the weaponsmith in Ratay forgot to lock his door and to remove the wares from the shop. Needless to say I held on to them in order to prevent a nasty character of taking advantage of the situation. I was then doing a lot of business in Sassau and when I returned to Ratay after a long while the wordsmith had only 1.5k (I was doing regular business with him before that and he had around 3 to 4k. The armoursmith had about 40k in his account for comparison.
As far as I know, the main shop owners don’t even follow the daily routines either like eating or washing. I wanted to poison their food just for fun and pickpocket them to see if they had the main keys
Yes if you steal from them it takes longer for their gold to increase.
If you sell to them cheap making them pay less than a product is worth, than overnight the amount of money they have increases by a lot as well. (Think of it like economics. If they buy supply cheap but dont lower their prices they can make even more revenue).
Also any time a shopkeeper is unconscious his wares are removed from the store. (Say if you were to shoot him with an arrow tipped with Lullaby potion…) Or sneak up on him and knock him out.
That being said, there is a way to steal from the armourer in rattays shop without being caught. (The actual shop not just his chests).
Are you sure about the unconscious bit? I once put the sworthsmith on a stranglehold and choked him out and I think his wares were still there iirc. Still I had so much money by that point that I just didn’t care to rob him so I didn’t pay attention.
I have never tried to rob the actual stores of the owners, but I have silently killed them several times, which just ends with them coming back after a few days or something along those lines. Sometimes I find chests with literally only grochens which I assume is theirs, idk though.
Might try doing the arrow dipped in lullaby just as a test, other than that my lockpicking is pretty good so I might just stick to that and selling to the millers.
Im fairly certain about the unconscious bit. As soon as you choke them out all their wares magically disappear. Then again this game is anything but consistent so i am not entirely certain.
For example the craftsman that is in the armor shop, if he is alone in the shop (before the trader wakes up and if you’ve killed the shop guard) then all the wares stay out and you can sneak behind him and steal them. But if you knock him unconscious they all disappear instantly. Its a weird game.
P.s. poison arrows are really inconsistent. I think they only work if you get past all the armor so aim for the face or buy piercing arrows. I still cant get a witches poison arrow to make a bandit go crazy and attack his friends.