It would be cool if they did something like in D&D, where different armors take longer to put on, but if others help you it takes less time and if you “Don Hastily” it takes even less time but you get less of an armor rating from it to simulate it being ill-fitting. Also you can get a penalty for sleeping in armor, or just wearing it for too long (depending on the DM).
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There are different kinds of armours. Armour worn in battle is more lightweight to offer some good protection but also moveability. Armour worn in tournaments for example could weight a lot more.
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If you wear armour or not depends on your situation. Of course it doesn’t make much sense to wear plate armour in a safe town without the actual danger to be attacked every minute. It’s quite a different situation if you are in the open field where you could always be attacked by bandits. And since the game is set in a time of uprising and civil war it’s even more dangerous to travel around through the countryside without wearing SOME armour (that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to wear a full suit of plate armour at all time…)
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Our player character will have a place to stay and sleep aka “a home”. That’s already confirmed. And yeah, it’s very likely that we will be able to store stuff there.
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Swimming while wearing armour is almost impossible. Yeah, you could probably survive for one or two minutes but nobody has enough stamina or strength for a longer period of time. Just try to swim with heavy clothes for a longer amount of time (more than a minute…) and you’ll know what I’m talking about (I’m a life guard so I’ve tried that stuff before).
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There was a reason why bathhouses were that famous in medieval times. You usually stank like hell, especially as a knight travelling around without the possibility to wash your clothes regularly. It’s a real relief that there is no smelling involved in gaming…
Like with allot of other games it’s going to be realism vs fun. They can make a very realistic system wit wearing armor but wouldn’t it be just something annoying?
As much as I agree with @MadSmejki up there, at least @Dekssan did make a good point.
KCD obviously doesn’t use a simple “cool” as a unit of measurement. We souldn’t either.
On the other hand, cloaks really were in common use back then and nobody’s saying that you have to wear armor in this game at all. The way I understood it, you should be able to play the whole game through easily as something of a Thief or Bard, e.g. possibly never even putting on an armor chestplate during the whole game.
But quite possibly putting a cloak on at some point, if you manage to get your hands on one.
(go check the “classes” artwork on the Kickstarter page again, the thief even visibly has a hood on his head and something similar to an actual cloak covering his back… and, well, why not?)
You are absolute right! You CAN do all of this in armour, but it’s more fun without. Sure, I am not trained as an medieval knight and they could do that 10 times longer than I, but what I try to say is, that it is unrealistic to run around all the time in your armour, sleep/eat/drink at the tavern in full arms, if there is no reason for that.
I really hope they do the stamina-thing in the game.
Swimming with armor was more like not dying instead of something you did daily, I doubt they went for 30 minute swims very often.
Yeah, I understood what you were trying to convey, I just like talking about knights is all. I agree with the stamina-thing.
I would do a Captain Underpants look with a cape. Hilarious.
you would need to step up your game
battling scary monsters.
No, I would think everyone would look at me like I am crazy. That and you can’t take a guy seriously when he is in underpants and a cape.
Cloak’s were worn by different cast’s
For example a peasant may wear a cloak with a hood in the rain to keep the rain off them, they work quite well at doing this.
Wearing a Cloak in combat isn’t very useful as at certain lengths they start to hamper your movement or can be stood on to trip you.
Isn’t there already and armor washing mini-game? Wasn’t that something they already mentioned. I swear it was.
Yes you clean your clothing to remove, blood and muck which would build up over daily work. it is important to keep your gear clean in the real world so you don’t get disease really, but i imagine we won’t have disease.
In the update videos and commentary from Dan it’s been mentioned that clothing will need to be washed or it could affect how people react to you. Although armor wasn’t specifically mentioned it would by nifty if they added a mechanic to upkeep your armor and keep it in good shape. If your armor has dried blood and mud all over it that could certainly turn NPCs against you. Not maintaining clothes and armor could also lead to disease or stamina depletion from wearing the armor all the time.
From playing LARPs I can speak to wearing chain mail while sleeping for fear of attack. You can rest but it won’t be the quality rest you’d get it you took it off.
I think we might have diseases, not debilitating ones but ones that reduce your stats by a little. It was mentioned in the STATS and conditions one where they said something like sleep and food can affect your stamina.
Indeed, for a game that wants a fair bit of realism but isn’t a knight sim, I want to play the parts that matter, not waiting 10 min for someone to put on my armor everytime I want to walk in a town or something. The option just to instachange via a menu is good enough and for me doesnt ruin the experience. It WOULD be cool though to get your armor donned realtime in a ingame sequence before a battle and seeing your character getting all the pieces on.
Smells were pretty bad those days, and indeed people didn’t wash as often as we do, even noblemen/women. And the same would be for clothing and armor.
Yeah thats D&D 101. Sleep in armor…wake up fatigued.
They definitely should have cloaks and things in game.
As far as armor goes, all the talk about upkeep and “Cleaning,” the one thing I do hope is a game where plate armour isn’t all super-polished silver.
Plate armour (and others) could be decorated in a multitude of ways, from oils/paints, cloth coverings and many other things that could affect it’s colouring. I hope that we are able to have non-silver only plate armour and/or able to decorate it in some ways.
Cloaks and things were definitely a part of the time period and even though you’d take your armour off, being a game, you likely will keep it on so I think it’s something that can be allowed for games sake.
Plate armour isn’t made of silver…
It’s just steel. And in contemporary pictures soldiers/knights always wear a surcoat/wapenroc so you usually only see the armour on the limbs.
I was talking about the colour of it, just because it’s steel doesn’t mean it has to be silver (and polished).
Armour could come straight from the blacksmith with a base colour of black, blue, etc depending on how he made it and other things they could do.
There are numerous paintings from those era’s showing people in plate that’s black/blue’ish and other colors.
The idea that all plate armour is super-polished shining silver is just wrong. A lot of that is thanks to the armour that we do have over the ages being (mistakingly) polished and losing it’s colours over time. Just like the notion that castles are all made of gray stones and that’s it (many castles were actually white in colour).