The massive graphic downgrade is real. And here is proof (with screenshot)

You’re joking, right? The graphics in this game are incredible. The game is utterly gorgeous, textures, LOD, lighting, etc, all the best I’ve ever seen in a game. They may have downed the graphics a bit because it just ended up not being realistic quite yet, but that doesn’t mean the game is suffering for it. I’m having none of the issues you are having. I keep seeing complaints like this, and I think they are coming from people with 1050+ cards. I have a 960, and don’t have any of these issues. No popping, no FPS drops, I don’t know for sure what the problem is, but my guess is the drivers for the higher cards are having a problem for some reason. It might be WH’s fault, it might be NVIDIA’s fault. What I do know, is that this studio has put AAA studios to utter shame in a lot of ways, and one of those is the hyper realistic nature environments. Except the rain. The rain is garbage. =P

Your standards must be pretty low if you think this game has the best visuals you have ever seen in a videogame. We are in 2018, not 2007. Crysis already gave us this stuff 11 years ago and when heavily modded, that old boy smashes this game’s visuals… 960 and no framedrops or popins? What settings are you playing it that you are seeing the best visuals ever? Anything less than Ultra High with maybe some settings at High looks last gen in this game. I have a 1080Ti and performance in this game is laughable. Then again, you might be right when you say the drivers are probably jacking up the higher end cards in this game, which is not too uncommon unfortunately.

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CaptainJax gave me exactly the kind of comment i meant…

the Graphic is awesome…
where is the problem…
blablabla…

no one said the graphic is bad!
Read this thread carefully and you will see where the problem is :wink:

Actually this is the biggest case of downgrade ever. Now the game looks like shit, especially distance LoD.
This beta graphics can easily be played with todays graphic cards. Sure not with extreme 2K or 4K resolutions and 60 fps always, but this game does not need high framerate. Cap your fps on 40 and it works beautifully.

And this beta graphics should be on PC today, but it’s not because of stupid consoles . Btw, i have refunded the game because of this .

With my 7 years old HD 7970 3GB i was getting between 20-30 frames in Beta, and with todays high end graphic card i could easily have double the framerate. More then enough for me. I was planning to buy better graphics just for this game, but what we have today looks like shit!

Some Beta screens on i7 2600k and hd 7970 with fps:




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Wow, that game looks good, I would love to play that. :frowning:

You have consoles to thank for the huge downgrade. And the irony is from what I have heard the game looks and performs like utter dogcrap on consoles LOLOLOL. So much for trying to retain “visual parity” between all 3 platforms HAH! If this game was properly optimised on PC, we could run Beta graphics no problem with today’s high end cards. Hopefully modders can do their magic but still if Warhorse does not optimise the game properly, any significant addition modders make will cripple the game even further.

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No you don’t so you can stop lying your ass off. You have absolutely zero proof of this, go take your vendetta somewhere else, you’re just coming off as a bitter ankle bitter at this point.

Are you a consolite by any chance? Or a Warhorse Rider? Everyone here paid for this game, some more than others. We have the right to voice our concerns and disappointments. You did not buy the game for other people so you cannot silence others.

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Nope, been playing primarily on PC my entire life, and i play KC:D on pc as well.

You’re not voicing valid concerns, you’re inserting a claim with zero evidence.

He is right. It is because of consoles, and this is not the first case. For example the reason why vanilla Skyrim looks like shit and lacks many features is because of consoles.

Btw, i work with Cryengine level design and assets creation. I have also worked with UE4 and X-Ray, so i know how engines work, especially Cryengine.

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Has anyone been able to get access to the beta files? You’ll need a legacy version of Cryengine with the Pak Manager (not the free sdk). Anything 3.4.x and prior I believe.

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about and has the credentials.

@SirWarriant What do you have to say to that?

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/kingdom-come-deliverance-appears-to-have-been-downgraded-from-its-stunning-pc-beta-version/

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There we go! :slight_smile:

You didn’t prove jack shit. Anyone who played the beta can attest to how shitty it ran, even on the most powerful pcs 30 fps was about the limit, and during baptism of fire, it tanked well below that.

The alpha looked even better but, again the level of detail was simply not feasible with how large the game world was going to be. The only people who would have been able to play the finished game with beta level detail would be people with 1080 TIs, which the vast majority of pc players do not have access to, which would have resulted in the game only being sellable to a tiny percentage of players, which is apparently what you and @scorpgul want.

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Not true!
Here is a Beta video where dude plays it with GTX 980TI and quite nice framerate.

And with proper optimization this could be even better, more adjusted for cheaper hardware.
What has happened here is that Warhorse fucked up. They have started to design it to maks PC hardware, hence Beta, but then later in the process they realized how this is not gonna work for consoles. The difference in graphics will be colossal, etc.
I have refunded the game. I’m gonna support it only when i see beta graphics, but chances are small. The bigger problem is that pak. files are encrypted, so modders will not be able to change anything.

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Absolutely true, one person get’s decent frames in a four minute video, is not proof of anything, All he does is go into a small patch of woods, he doesn’t fight, or go into the deep forest, where i guarantee you his fps would have gone into the toilet. The overwhelming majority of people, even with monster rigs got shit fps, period.

I’m not even going to bother arguing with you, ive been on this forum every day for the past four years, and no one reported good solid fps ( past 30-45), even with extremely powerful machines. Feel free to go browse the dozens of threads on it.

If you had it your way, the only people enjoying this game would be people with 1500+ dollar machines. And I’m still waiting for that proof that they downgraded for console.

Lol your loss.

That was beta… It is normal for a beta to be unoptimised. Also you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against people who own high end rigs. We should be able to have beta level visuals, which is the TRUE ULTRA. Whether it can be played at decent framerates or not, that’s our business. We bought the rigs.

What they have done is they have downgraded the Ultra settings bigtime, just to maintain visual parity and so that people like you don’t argue that the ultra settings cannot run at more than 20 fps on your PC. The same way you want the game to run on weaker hardware, we want to have the option to push the game to its limits too… Crysis did it fine and that is why 11 years later its still a technical masterpiece. The developers allowed us to push it to the extreme.

If KCD’s ULTRA setting looked like the Beta, I would not mind 30 fps even on my 1080 Ti. or they could restore the Beta level visuals and call it “ENTHUSIAST” setting just like Crysis which is reserved only for future GPUs and for benchmarking only. I would gladly take that.

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Unoptimized is too nice of a word for that beta. It ran like absolute dog shit, and that was without the facial animations, over 2/3s of the map, most of the armor, and clothing assets, animals, and more.

Well i technically own a high end rig. The only weakp oint of my pc is my gpu, but it’s still is pretty good (gtx 970).

What i resent is you complaining they had to downgrade the beta, because if they didn’t the only people who would have ran this game past low would be people with 1080 tis.

A linear shooter is totally comparable to this game. You make the single most retarded comparisons ive ever seen.

I never expected the game to run at ultra what so ever on my pc. In fact i was down right terrified the game would run like crap on low based on my beta experiences.

Except we both know you would be raising hell if it ran at 30 fps on your pc. According to you the game still runs poorly on on ultra, and you seem to think it looks like shit compared to the beta, so why in gods name would you expect the game with beta level graphics to run on anything other than low even withy our 1080 ti?

You don’t even read my posts properly.
Yes your framerate will tank in beta if you pull those sliders to the maksimum, which is ludicrous and totally unnecessary. But beta even with lower details beta looks WAY better then this what we have now, this console graphics.

Did you saw my beta pics with fps on my old 7970?