The massive graphic downgrade is real. And here is proof (with screenshot)

That is not how the gaming market works, games are not made for the top of the line PC’s, games are made for the minimum comum denominator, this means the lowest level of PC hardware the game developers want the game to run at intended, speed, features and looks, the MCD changes with time but is never the high end that exist at the time the game is made.
For some developers, making console and PC games, the MCD is the consoles, making two different games for PC and consoles, is time consuming and can end not being profitable., for others only making PC games the MCD is the lowest PC configuration they decide their game will support, that is mostly based on steam hardware charts that tells what’s the most popular PC configuration at the time and so the most potential market and that is always the mid range and never the high end PC’s.

Of course, so logical. Big majority of gamers cant afford super strong PCs. And basically on new generations of consoles there are zero pirating. Its not all about graphic, gamers these days are simply spoiled. Dude, we enjoy blocky graphic back in the days more than any of this fancy super high graphic bolocks.

There are settings for graphics. Even back then in 2007 and Crysis era the game was very playable with lower settings, and still it was the best looking by far.

Your perception on the matter is incorrect. I chose not to use downgrade not because I dislike the word but because it inaccurately defines what took place.

This is 100% false.

I’ve given you the dictionary definition of downgrade, determining whether or not a downgrade took place is trivial, let’s use your tree example.

  1. Is having more trees a positive thing? Yes.
  2. If you remove trees you are downgrading the graphics.

I you promise dense forests and cut it back you are in fact downgrading it. I’m sorry, this is an absolute statement of fact, you don’t have to like it you just don’t get to get away with being dishonest.

I also find is comical that you claim “PC” when you use the classic SJW technique of telling me what I should have said, becuase you don’t actually understand what I said.

Your sad attempt at projection aside, I never told you you couldn’t have said. My intention (which should be clear, and I think you’re being intentionally obtuse here) was not “Say these words in this order” rather it was you should focus on the argument rather than screeching about his use of an absolutely undeniably accurate word - again just using the dictionary definition.

No, I should not have because that is simply not what happened. The textures were never downgraded nore reduced the entire argument the OP has always made has been around the density of forests.

Graphics does not refer just to textures, you’re struggling with definitions again. People who make 3D models are called “Graphic Designers” after all. I suggest you do some required reading:

Graphics encompasses the entirety of the visual experience. Anti-aliasing is graphics, textures are graphics, 3D models are graphics etc. Try being honest for just a moment and pop over into the Graphics settings in the game, note the various options including “Vegetation Draw Distance”, even the game shows the glaring holes in your argument. All of this stems from your lack of understanding of the terms and your desire to control tone rather than win the argument. Again, this comes across as you being either incredibly obtuse either intentionally or otherwise, if it’s the latter then you should stop being so dishonest.

The Graphic fidelity was never reduced the, orientation and quantity of trees was changed and this has people upset over aesthetics.

Reducing the quantity of trees and shrubs is not the same as downgrading the graphics.

The game disagrees with you as does the entirety of engineering, all of graphic design, and every single article on 3D modeling and computer imagery.

That being said I don’t think I’ll get through to you. You’re right but your focus on words rather than arguments makes you look like weak minded.

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@Tomwa

You are 100% right.
btw
Has someone tried to look into file “system.cfg” ?

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Yes, nothing to find there

Has someone been able to open the Pak files from the beta? You will need the legacy full version of cryengine <= 3.4.x with Pak Manager to view them. I do not own this software but perhaps someone else can try.

I tried, and they are encrypted.

I also tried, but the files are encrypted. Why to encrypt, with mods the game would be longer lived.

This is extremely disappointing and pisses me off. Why encrypt the files of an openworld CRYENGINE game ffs?

Crysis made this engine popular and you know why? It gave modders absolute freedom!

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What to say?

Mate go and watch digital foundry and you’ll see pc shits all over console versions, the lead programmer said consoles are about medium settings with tweaks and FPS drops too btw, therefore all they havnt downgraded because of consoles, it’s literally proof it was done to optimise because he also said ultra is for tomorrow’s GPUs.

beta was a tech demo, a goal for them to aim for.

For what kind of tomorrow PCs? Ulta runs on 5 years old hardware with 60 FPS just fine. This game is a joke now and for potato Hardware. The visuals are PS2 at best. I didn’t even know someone could uglyfy the cryengine that much! Devs made this Statement yes, but it was about the original style, and not for this downgraded pile of crap. Here’s the quote:

“The PC version will not be changed for consoles, the console version will be done by a port from the PC version, not the other way around. If you have a really powerful pc, you will be able to use it as you should.”

Vávra also lost his reputation. He is the man behind the biggest downgrade of all time now. The biggest ever, period. He left Mafia2 because of downgrading plans? Well than, now he has his own company to left. This man was about to outrun Elon Musk, as he self claimed. But now he’ll be remembered as Daniel “The Downgrade” Vávra.

And in the end it’s WH that looses. - The loss of trust. I was with KCD from day one, as have been many people on PC. What did consoleros care about KCD in 2014? but next time WH comes to us ‘bagging’ for money. Well, we’ll remember the downgrade. This kind of fraud only works out once. This is not only me, at least 3 of my closer friends have been realy hyped on the forests. They won’t buy the game now.

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This is complete bollocks.

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This seems way off base to me. I didn’t play the beta, but even looking at the screenshots provided the game still looks absolutely incredible, and nothing that’s now missing would really affect my enjoyment of the game in any way.

Even my family (who aren’t gamers but see me playing all sorts of different games) have commented on how much better it looks compared to other games they’ve seen me playing so the devs are clearly doing something right.

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I have also refunded this.

Thats the right decission. I’ve done the same. Maybe I’ll get it again when the price has been downgraded to 10$. Untill than there are possibly good mods around to fix that crap look

People can complain with whatever but Nothing will change due to either contracting or for the great good? who knows but people have already tried making Texture mods at stuff on nexus mods so really if you just wait long enough this game will look Damned Amazing or you can learn the Console commands I like to change Fog when it rains or just when i feel like it suits me most

You can try r_VolumetricFog=1 That’s something we had enabled in Beta and found buggy on some GPUs so it’s disabled in the release. It really makes a difference in visual quality.

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