Interesting. I always heard pink and brown, black, blue, yellow, ect… were all colors not races. No one says “Hey my race is brown” or “I’m of the race of pink” my race is American, and that’s a race I’m proud of.
There is one species of human; homo sapiens sapiens.
The concept of “race” as commonly perpetuated anywhere outside anthropology is a misconstruction; one that, frankly, has done far more harm than good.
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Amen Sister. I’ve been saying the same thing for years. However since people like to segregate themselves into different nationalities/races (which in reality would just be human) I want people to realize that america isn’t some ambiguous non-race. It, like every other country in the world, can only be seen logically as anyone born in America is an American by race, just as though they were in any other country. Then afterwords you could look into ancestry and say “I’m Canadian-french-italian-irish-polish-israeli-german” thus the term 'murica and 'murican is a vulgar racial slur. Even as flashfire said “I’ve used 'MURICA before, yes - but more to mock what I see as stupid Americans being stupid.” noting that he/she intends to use this as a racial slur denoting that people of the American race are by default stupid. Much like the term “nigger” can be used in America to insult or belittle someone with black skin (Typically believed to be of African ancestry) on the accounts of their lack of intelligence and inability to pronounce the word negro. So as always I do not condone racism of any sort. I won’t call a german “Adolf” (with the exception being that it is their name) I wouldn’t call a frenchman/woman a “blackfoot” I wouldn’t call a russian a “cossak”, or any other racial slurs one can think of.
When the human race will come to the conclusion that we are all part of the same race and we all live in the same home, the planet earth, breaking down all ideological, political, religious or flag barriers of any kind, it will be the biggest step in human history.
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All religion. A social construct which provided enormous benefit earlier on has now evolved to retard our development and act as safe harbour for prejudice and wilful ignorance.
Would personally like to see it hounded from society in much the same manner, and with pretty much the same social stigma, as incest.
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I strongly disagree. Even objectively speaking religions can have a largely beneficial effect on society. Fostering cooperation and goodwill.
Really? My take away has always been the exact opposite. Religions are uniformly exclusionary. Each one chock full of practitioners convinced that their moral compass is the only functional one. Tolerant of outsiders only where necessary or in a guarded attempt at recruitment.
Religions cannot avoid the True Believer vs Them dichotomy precisely because that is exactly what they are.
All of this before we even start discussing the social damage entrenched protection of self-delusion can produce. I can tolerate it in children because make-believe is a vital part of developing self. Permitting it to enjoy legally protected status into adulthood? … Not so much.
Problem is the goodwill isn’t for it’s own sake but as obedience to the absulute authority, that has the final say in how your afterlive is goingt to be like. But this might just be true for the abrahamic norm religion.
On humans and the use of the word race: it implies genetic ties! the german word for race is used very rearly in the present and is replaced by Ethnicity for this reason.
I prefer “human” but if I have to select something it’s Caucasian/white. “American” is not even an option when questions like that are posed, for that matter. Like I said, you’re mixing nationality with race.
I…think you completely misunderstood my point. In no way am I saying Americans are by default stupid. In fact, there are stupid people in every country in the world, just the same as there are intelligent people, just the same as there are completely average people. There are just a whole lot of Americans, so as it happens we have a lot of dumb people compared to many other countries. We also have a lot of smart people, for that matter.
Anyway, like it or not (and I don’t really like it), a lot of people around the world still identify closest with others who look more like them than not. That’s where a lot of the racism comes from and continues to come from: an inability to look beyond skin color or features.
Nationalism doesn’t help, especially when governments and influential groups of people put propaganda to use to paint entire countries as being full of people who all think the same, which in this case either makes them your friend or your enemy without any effort made to see people as individuals. No middle ground, either.
Unfortunately, as long as there is power to be had and dominance to be exerted over other people, nations and so on, this is a step I doubt mankind will ever be able to make. For that vision to take place, everyone would have to be on an equal, level playing field and the odds of that happening are slim to none.
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Look guys a butterfly! Aren’t butterflies amazing?
You know what else is amazing? This game called Kingdom come: Deliverance set in Bohemia around 1403. Just imagine being able to alpha test it in a mere 16 days.
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@snejdarek Let’s add random things, that makes them true right? I love Germany, but I also love Russia. Anyway, love you <3 (PS. Who said that I hate Democracy and so on? Now the question is: Do you hate Democracy? it seems so because you brought it up.)
I’m sorry, it’s hard enough that those colonists stole your ground.
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Yes i know, i agree with you. Unfortunately we are still far from being, in my humble point of view, an advanced civilization, technology may helps but certainly not completely in this sense but who knows… Hope springs eternal.
Like denying evolution? 
Next step “intelligent falling” cause gravity was invented by evil scientists 
Religion helps people who can’t accept there is no meaning to everything. Nothing after death. You die and that’s it. The sun will die. Our galaxy might crash with another one. Things just happen. But we can’t accept it, can we?
What I find more idiotic than denying evolution is people who have full fledged faith in “The theory of evolution”. Then when things don’t add up they still fall back on that “faith”. There is proven evolution on a micro-scale. That’s just common sense and genetics. There is however no substantial evidence at all to believe in the (as of these days) religion of Macro-evolution. Micro-evolution states a monkey with short legs won’t get as many opportunity to breed as one with long legs. Or a human with a small penis won’t have as many opportunities to mate as one with a longer penis there for longer penises become more prevalent. This does not lead the human to becoming a lizard or a monkey to becoming a pig. That is more fantasy than I ever see in Christianity to be quite frank.
Also there are a large number of Christian Scientist I site this article
And here’s another interesting read
@Flashfire good for you it appears you were born from a color. Your genes are of the white race/nationality I’m certain a German will disagree with you. As will Chinese as will swedes. It really is incredibly stupid to call your race white. To deny the American race (which should be on a census, the reason it isn’t is completely political as our politicians seek to divide this nation up for the purposes of grabbing pieces of the vote here or there, because a united people would never abide by the tyranny we see today) would be to deny every race on the planet (Once again the most common use of the term race Such as in America most idiots call a black person “African-American” denoting that they are of two races, you’re not going to convince me that someone who’s never lived in Africa is an African national, so the nationality argument is a non-argument)
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Really? My take away has always been the exact opposite. Religions are uniformly exclusionary.
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Then you either don’t pay attention to the world around you or you’re blinded by prejudice. Firstly Religion’s are exclusionary. That’s not a problem if you believe in that religion they accept you if you don’t they reject you. That’s life. Though also there are no people more charitable than Christians. Does this apply to all Christians? No I’d say only about 25% of proclaimed believers (Much like only 25% believe in the Quran) The other 75% (in both religions) go with the flow of their religion and then do their own human things engaging in their own human interest. Though Still with Christianity there is a moral authority superior than your own (and human’s aren’t very good at being moral without an authority greater than them be it king or god, now before someone…looking at you phydra…wants to debate morality I’d like to set the standard for this discussion. Killing is bad, stealing is bad, slavery is bad and that includes governments seizing your liberties). It’s also good to have Inalienable rights granted by God, such as in the united states, because that means no man no matter his position has the power to take those away from you. A right granted by man can be revoked by man a right granted by God cannot be revoked by man. This is good for all humans regardless of if you believe in God or not.
My ancestry dates back to include German, Czech and Hungarian heritage, and those are all generally Caucasian when it comes to race. That’s my ancestral nationality, my own nationality based on where I was born is American, and the skin color is essentially white.
If you don’t like the generally accepted differentiation for all that, that’s your problem, not mine.
Nope nope nope nope.
And that’s exactly why I don’t like religion. You don’t fall back to faith just because something doesn’t fit. Of course there’s a lot of theory and that’s great. We try to explain things we can (and can be verified) and have theories for things we can’t. If someone comes up with a better one and can prove it makes more sense we adapt to it. We try to improve our knowledge. That’s a good thing! And even if everything was false, so what? We tried to explain it but failed, so we try more carefully. (…a good thing…)
Religion however claims things are like they are cause god did so. You just have to believe and trust. But why? Most christians that argue hold their bible as proof. Yet most of them can’t PROPERLY explain why this book is so important.
Also a very good point. We have to have religion cause if a human would say so it’s not good enough because your also a human. Oh boy. You need the chances of going to hell to not smash your neighbors head in? Instead of trying to teach that, how about teaching that EVERY life is valuable? Which in my opinion most religions have failed to.
Also, to quote a great guy: You never hear in the news, “200 killed today when Atheist rebels took heavy shelling from the Agnostic stronghold in the north”.
Perhaps it is primarily concerned with the sense-giving aspect. The belief in something imaginary Helping, fortifying, loving compensates for these deficiencies in reality. Also, the sense of community similar to the same phenomenon in guilds, federations, Freemasons or Boy Scouts that thought arises, you want to be able to trust each other absolutely. And what unites exclude non-members, the group is adjacent recognizable from. This in turn promotes self worth. Unfortunately, the contempt for non-members.
To come back to the starting point of the discussion - the news situation in Germany signaled that Turkey is using the IS solve the Kurdish problem. They allows slaughter the Kurds on their border of the superior IS.