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Than You, @rataj @TheDivineInfidel

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i still dont think he fully understands what horny means in the English language :slight_smile:

right, he gets the gist though.

just worded wrong.

ah yeah if you mean…

@SirWarriant @TheDivineInfidel @snejdarek opinions?

the main message of it i agree with that yes america and americans are massively arrogant and big headed and it will be the US’s downful ,

i think it will come when the US military suffers a defeat . possibly against china or russia as it would wipe that unbeatable title away from the US which basically holds it to the number one spot .
the US is feared more than anything else as its believed the US is unbeatable the moment that goes the US literally has nothing going for it .

I could agree with that.

Though I don’t see that necessarily being enough to tip it, you can’t under estimate the level of arrogance and narcissism of many Americans.

there are still people who blindly accept 9/11 as an act of terrorism, and believe we were successful in Vietnam.

the general populace knows little about our affairs internationally outside of Fox news and other media sources. So if there was a defeat many wouldn’t even believe it or accept it.

It would accelerate the process though.

but one so large it couldnt be talked down lets say the "untouchable " us aircraft carriers.

just imagine waking up to the USS Nimitzs tilted on its side 90 aircraft gone , over 4000 us service men dead , missing on frantically swimming to some sort of safety .
at that moment that ENTIRE US tactic of sending a US Fleet to a trouble zone would be worthless because it wouldnt be seen as invincible .
the world is still run on who has the biggest gun , the US runs the world this way "use our money or face our might " the moment china goes "how about no " sinks a US carrier and uses its own money and all its friends us china’s money the world will shift .

i personally think this will come before 2030 and will come from china , they are already building that financial backing to take the reins from a wounded US in a few years they will be able to deal the military blow . it wont be a world war or even a large war it will be a single surgical blow at the might of the US military .

most americans like to believe it couldnt be done but just a little research out side of US media proves the opposite

notice these events dont seem to reach US media but in reality are HUGE events

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then along side these we have the financial blows


http://www.cnbc.com/id/102540352

I’ve seen her yesterday in Ikea. Her body language didn’t relay the self confidence she seems to have while undressing in the videos (I hope it doesn’t sound too weird).

The Kahr CM9 I just had on me the past two days when I was out of the flat is lying just in front of my screen with the two back up mags on the side and CZ75 is in the drawer next to my bed. That is the advantage of having no kids around and gun friendly girlfriend.

Otherwise we have mandatory safe storage rules (i.e. apart from the gun or two you have on hand for immediate self defense). This wouldn’t meet the requirements.

In most other European countries the mandatory safe storage rules mean that you really can’t have a gun outside a safe unless you are really on way to/from hunt/shooting range. You even can’t have magazines loaded and rounds need to be stored in special lockable compartment of the safe. And the authorities may come at any time to your home and check the safe storage - failure = guns confiscation. I mean if authorities could show up without warrant at my house at any time, I’d rather not have guns. Or to be more precise, move elsewhere.

I’ve heard of a German guy who got his guns confiscated for having one magazined loaded up WITHIN locked safe (not inserted in the gun). Crazy, huh?

Kids always find a way. Magnet is no match to them.

Americans are arrogant just like Europeans are arrogant. Europe has this idea and has had it for a while that they’re so much Better than we are.

@McWonderBeast I agree with a lot of what this guy says but i also think a lot of what he says is total horse shit.
He claims that we are always told we live in the best country on earth and that we are better than everyone. This is complete and total bullshit. No one is proud to be an American any more. We are always being told we are no better than Mexico or any other third world country and that our ancestors were the equivalent of Nazis. To be proud to be an American now a days makes you a murderer it makes you a racist and red neck trash.

With the baby boomer comment i agree they caused a lot of damage. But i think the youth mainly 20-30 year olds are the dangerous ones. They are for the most part lazy and don’t want to work for a living so they advocate for socialism and communism. They always want to blame someone else for their troubles other than themselves.

I also think he’s full of crap claiming movies and video games make us far more violent. Violent crime has actually massively decreased in the last 50 years and movies and games have become more and more popular.

Yes and sadly the majority of the population thinks 9/11 was planned by some guy in a cave 3,000 miles away from America.

I completely disagree the American dream is still very much alive the problem is laziness and people not wanting to work for it. You could live in a lot worse countries than America.

I agree America could be on the verge of a collapse. And i think many people are not prepared for that sort of thing. Most people couldn’t get food or water for themselves during a crisis. I saw how many people were helpless when utilities were done last year in a flood in my state. Thankfully i can own a fire arm so if a time like that comes i won’t be defenceless against people who want to take from me or harm me.

Russia or China could defeat us beyond our borders but could not take us in our homeland. I very much agree with this quote from Abraham Lincoln.

"“Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.”

And sadly we are destroying ourselves. We don’t need Russia or China to do it.

not true , completely not true .
people in Europe couldn’t give a flying fuck in truth ,

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2325, topic:21032”]
I completely disagree the American dream is still very much alive the problem is laziness and people not wanting to work for it. You could live in a lot worse countries than America.
[/quote] missed the point we are talking internationally , people fear america thats it

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2325, topic:21032”]
I agree America could be on the verge of a collapse. And i think many people are not prepared for that sort of thing. Most people couldn’t get food or water for themselves during a crisis. I saw how many people were helpless when utilities were done last year in a flood in my state. Thankfully i can own a fire arm so if a time like that comes i won’t be defenceless against people who want to take from me or harm me.
[/quote] hugely dramatised the US downfall right their

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2325, topic:21032”]
Russia or China could defeat us beyond our borders but could not take us in our homeland. I very much agree with this quote from Abraham Lincoln.
[/quote] dramatising it again .

they wont neet to invade you the days of invasion are gone , why invade a country when you can simply control its whole direction , the US has done it for years what the US says the world does . out of fear more than anything else .

a single surgical blow like a sinking of a super carrier would shock the US beyond imagination . the whole mentality of you being able to role up anywhere in the world with a fleet and be untouchable would be gone within seconds . as long as china has the political and financial weight to back it up they will take the crown .

thats the cycle of life its happened hundreds of times in history . as the saying goes

"every dog has its day "

Sorry it is true 100% true Europeans think they’re better than Americans for the most part i have seen some exceptions but almost every European person ive spoken to has been an arrogant ass hole to me because I’m American. They love to jump on the “i hate the U.S for no reason” bandwagon.

Sorry its not. Stores are only stocked with 72 hours of food if the dollar collapsed people would rush and loot the stores. Truckers couldn’t be paid to ship food and most would just stop. Ultilties could shut off even.
You have to remember the last time this happened in the U.S it was the 1930s and people were a lot different back then and could fend for themselves much better. Food riots would happen lawlessness martial law ect. It would be complete and utter chaos. Just look at any case where people were out of power for a week or water in a modernized country. People would get hungry and hungry people with a family to feed would do desperate things. You wouldn’t be able to buy shit you would have to get a new way of getting food and water, And the people who don’t know how to do these things are fucked. you wouldn’t be able to pay your water bill you wouldn’t be able to buy groceries or there would simply be no food in the stores.

You clearly didn’t understand the message behind the quote.

We could do the same damage to their military so it wouldn’t just be them steam rolling right over us like you’re imaging. China exports 95% of their shut to us. We stop buying from them and they would collapse just as hard if not harder than us. Our economy’s are too intertwined for them to fight with us it would hurt both sides.

I would also like to add how much the dollar collapse would hurt Europe. We supply a huge amount of food to you and that would leave a lot of people hungry in Europe.

when was the last time you went to europe … oh wait

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2327, topic:21032”]
Sorry its not. Stores are only stocked with 72 hours of food if the dollar collapsed people would rush and loot the stores. Truckers couldn’t be paid to ship food and most would just stop. Ultilties could shut off even. You have to remember the last time this happened in the U.S it was the 1930s and people were a lot different back then and could fend for themselves much better. Food riots would happen lawlessness martial law ect. It would be complete and utter chaos. Just look at any case where people were out of power for a week or water in a modernized country. People would get hungry and hungry people with a family to feed would do desperate things. You wouldn’t be able to buy shit you would have to get a new way of getting food and water, And the people who don’t know how to do these things are fucked. you wouldn’t be able to pay your water bill you wouldn’t be able to buy groceries or there would simply be no food in the stores.
[/quote] dramatising it still , you just wont be the economic power house anymore , you wont be the reserve currency anymore , that doesnt mean the collapse of the dollar . domestically in the US

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2327, topic:21032”]
We could do the same damage to their military so it wouldn’t just be them steam rolling right over us like you’re imaging. China exports 95% of their shut to us. We stop buying from them and they would collapse just as hard if not harder than us. Our economy’s are too intertwined for them to fight with us it would hurt both sides.

I would also like to add how much the dollar collapse would hurt Europe. We supply a huge amount of food to you and that would leave a lot of people hungry in Europe.
[/quote] you’re going into the classic american rage here .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2327, topic:21032”]
We could do the same damage to their military so it wouldn’t just be them steam rolling right over us like you’re imaging.
[/quote] steam role ? read what i said

a SINGLE surgical blow on a carrier , not all out war .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2327, topic:21032”]
We stop buying from them and they would collapse just as hard if not harder than us. Our economy’s are too intertwined for them to fight with us it would hurt both sides.
[/quote] dramatising again .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2327, topic:21032”]
I would also like to add how much the dollar collapse would hurt Europe. We supply a huge amount of food to you and that would leave a lot of people hungry in Europe.
[/quote] jesus fucking christ man your image of this is all is like fucking Armageddon , you know this stuff has happened countless times in history ? the pound was once the reserve currency the pound was once THE currency of trade , when we fell down the pecking order did we collapse and burn ? no

When was the last time you went to America… oh wait. I never said i actually met these people mainly over games I’m met with out right hostility if people find out I’m American.

[quote=“TheDivineInfidel, post:2328, topic:21032”]
dramatising it still , you just wont be the economic power house anymore , you wont be the reserve currency anymore , that doesnt mean the collapse of the dollar . domestically in the US
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I don’t think we’re on the same page. I was responding to that video which was talking about a dollar collapse in America. If the dollar over night became worthless or 10 times less than what its worth now all what i said and more would happen in America.

Lol okay this is coming from the same person who always spouts off how great the British military without anything to back up them being the best trained in the world. Or the same Brit who said Britain could defeat the U.S in a war. I know you and all other Europeans are waiting for the day the U.S collapses for god knows what reason . We do export a lot of food to Europe and other countries and that’s a fact.

Sorry if they sank one of our carriers it would mean war. We didn’t just role over and submit when Japan sank most of our Pacific fleet at Pearl harbour. We thought those ships were invincible we thought Japan couldn’t attack us like that. It sent shock waves through the public and military and costed us millions of dollars billions in today’s money. How ever we did not submit we went and beat the shit out of Japan.

No i’m not. Chinas economy is heavily based on exports. Most of it to America. What happens when we stop buying shit form them? It wouldn’t be good.

Again talking about if the dollar became worthless in America. It happened in the 30s and it was devastating to us. If it happened today it would be far more destructive to America.

So Texas and Utah are considered hostile states toward the U.S now. Thoughts @McWonderBeast @snejdarek @TheDivineInfidel ? Conducting exercises against insurgencies int he U.S it will also be taking place in my state and i have to say it scares the shit out of me. These operations will be conducted on private and public property without permission.

So i guess i shouldn’t be alarmed if a fucking black hawk lands on my street and they start training.

Texas is big on guns, and Utah is Huge on natural disaster preparedness (its a Mormon thing).

Im not sure which act it is maybe National Authorization Act? but it deems stockpiling food as potential sign of Terrorist activity, as well as ammo and other survival commodities.

I have been preparing my family for a martial law event for a few years now.

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Yeah it scares me to death. Not much you can do when the military busts your door down and demands your weapons or hauls you away. Even more disturbing is the majority of these drills that will be conducted will be done at night.

In regards to Texas the drill will include them occupying Texan government buildings because the Texas government doesn’t really get along with the feds very well. Police are being told not to respond to gun fire because i guess them actually firing their weapons is part of the drill.

So I can’t wait till July when these drills are conducted in my state.

Super Sketchmo.

Yeah if I see anything like this with enough time im packing up and heading to the mountains.

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I think that we have established that I am not a US hater, but just looking at the more than million civilian casualties and subsequent proliferation of terrorism after the US led illegitimated and unjustifiable invasion of Iraq gives one ample reason.

That is not really true. EU makes HUGE excesses of all and any food commodities. If EU closed its borders to all and any imports tomorrow, food would be one of the things that would really not be scarce.

Our biggest issue is dependence on the Russian gas. That is where we are looking at US, hoping that we will be able to get enough shale gas from US so that Russian pipelines may be completely closed in about two years (if needed).

Well you need to set a hostile territory and simulate an enemy to make any exercise meaningful.

On the other hand, US does have a precedent with what happens when a state or a couple of them want to leave the Union. Meanwhile in the EU there is a clear and straightforward process for any country that wishes to leave (it would take about two years to get out completely).

That is where I am really happy we had Nazi and Communist regimes just a generation ago. This would be unthinkable. The whole government would be done for within a month of this being public and army general staff could be looking for some nice place in the Arctics to spend a retirement at.