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#2335

Again i said there were exceptions i never accused you of U.S hating. The war in Iraq was unfortunate but people often forget the British government was spouting off about WMDs and were just as supportive of the war as the U.S government. And most of the U.S hating isn’t even about Iraq at least in my experience. People bitch about slavery or the Indians and all that other nonsense. Most of the U.S hating comes from the U.K.

Im sure it has nothing to do with both Texas and Utah having cession meetings. They are doing drills in my state which is considered “permissive” according to the U.S government. New Mexico is considered leaning hostile and California is considered leaning Friendly. That sounds like them simulating a rebellion to me. Which begs the question. Why are the drills being conducted at night and what are they planning on doing to cause us to rebel?

Well sadly we are not the same people. Our ancestors rebelled over way less than what our government is pulling right now. Operation Jade Helm is to see if they could get away with gun confiscation and things like that. The whole thing scares the living shit out of me. I’m worried that in my life time shits going to go down and im just glad we have the seconded amendment other wise we would be fucked.

I can assure you its not a harmless little excercise. You should read what @McWonderBeast said.

and in case you’re interested heres the map for Operation Jade helm

#2336

just over 2 years ago now

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
I never said i actually met these people mainly over games I’m met with out right hostility if people find out I’m American.
[/quote] so you dont know , thats just a widely false statement based upon the fact that many nations hate the US because the us is perceived to be full of arrogant people ? who believe that they’re the only truly free people and we are all enslaved ? or only in america can you go out and become successful with the american dream which you can fulfil in any nation . or the fact that americans are generally loud and annoying feel the need to fly their flag in your face at any given moment , slap on them american flagged with shorts with the american flagged shirt and generally look like a total penis .

thats normally why americans feel some people dont like them .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
I don’t think we’re on the same page. I was responding to that video which was talking about a dollar collapse in America. If the dollar over night became worthless or 10 times less than what its worth now all what i said and more would happen in America.
[/quote] forign aid would be delivered the international community isnt going to just let you plunge into some fucked up fallout world .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
ol okay this is coming from the same person who always spouts off how great the British military without anything to back up them being the best trained in the world.
[/quote] british army has the longest basic training of any miltary force on the planet ,

Royal Marines (UK) - 32 weeks
Combat Infantrymen (UK) - 26 weeks
French Foreign Legion - 15 weeks
US Marines - 13 weeks
US Army - 10 weeks

do some of your research if you like also .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
Or the same Brit who said Britain could defeat the U.S in a war.
[/quote] did not say that i said we could hold the UK for longer than your predicted , and in the same argument i agree we wouldnt have a chance if you got a decent foothold

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
I know you and all other Europeans are waiting for the day the U.S collapses for god knows what reason . We do export a lot of food to Europe and other countries and that’s a fact.
[/quote] not at all we cant wait for you to be brought down to earth yes but not your total downfall . at the moment the US is like Britain’s spoilt teenage girl that everyone knows needs a fucking slap but no one does. :slight_smile:

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
Sorry if they sank one of our carriers it would mean war. We didn’t just role over and submit when Japan sank most of our Pacific fleet at Pearl harbour. We thought those ships were invincible we thought Japan couldn’t attack us like that. It sent shock waves through the public and military and costed us millions of dollars billions in today’s money. How ever we did not submit we went and beat the shit out of Japan.
[/quote] different days im afraid , im not saying you wouldnt strike back but you would be very hesitant if they were able to wipe the floor with a carrier force . you would be seriously hesitant about sending another one into the theatre willy nilly .
and the amount of nations that would jump on the kill the US band wagon would be huge .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
No i’m not. Chinas economy is heavily based on exports. Most of it to America. What happens when we stop buying shit form them? It wouldn’t be good.
[/quote] no wouldnt be very good for the US at all , im afriad you wouldnt stop buying anything , russia showed that , you simply cant afford to sanction china fully . no one could they have us all by the balls in that respect .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2329, topic:21032”]
Again talking about if the dollar became worthless in America. It happened in the 30s and it was devastating to us. If it happened today it would be far more destructive to America.
[/quote] did you plunge into murderous chaos ? no just very hard times

#2337

whats wrong with them training for urban combat ? considering thats where most combat would take place in a modern country ? id be more alarmed if they were not conducting such training

#2338

generally when special operations missions take place could be the reason.

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2335, topic:21032”]
Im sure it has nothing to do with both Texas and Utah having cession meetings. They are doing drills in my state which is considered “permissive” according to the U.S government. New Mexico is considered leaning hostile and California is considered leaning Friendly. That sounds like them simulating a rebellion to me. Which begs the question. Why are the drills being conducted at night and what are they planning on doing to cause us to rebel?
[/quote] or maybe simulating the situation in ukraine to prepare for special operations inside ukraine if need be which are already taking place on an intelligence level ?

its really not hard to look at world events are stick these exercises in perfectly , i highly doubt they will be entering your home at most your front garden the will be given precise do’s and donts when it comes to private property . i pitty any nation that fears its own armed forces who’s members fight for their countries freedoms and wouldnt do even a sniff of the shit you suggest

#2339

You said you were at a military base.

Again have you ever really visited the U.S? You clearly don’t know Americans. Very few would actually fly the American flag. Patriotism and being proud to be an American is very rare these days.

Doubtful. As you’ve stated everyone hates us and wants us to collapse. This is why i favour isolationism. Over a million of troops have died in Europe the past century and we receive nothing but hate for being faithful ally.

As i understand both the foreign legion and royal marines are considered some what special forces. Marines here are pretty much used as regular infantry. And by the way U.S and Royal marines already had a show down. Its called the battle of New Orleans. 12,000 Royal marines vs 2,000 U.S marines and the Brits were destroyed.

America isn’t Britians child. Its really the worlds child. People of all origins and race came here and crafted something special.

Similar situation. Japan and the U.S were competing economically. We thought our fleet was untouchable. We got a rude awakening when they destroyed most of Pacific fleet. How ever it just made us pissed and determined to beat the shit out of them.

Chinas economy is literately based on ours. It would cripple them very badly if boycotted Chinese goods.

Different times. People didn’t rely as much on the system. They knew how to live off the land and that’s why it didn’t happen. Fast forward to today’s time. People lose their shit if they’re without power for a few hours.
Stores would be empty people would get hungry and desperate.

So you would be okay with troops drilling in your back yard and tanks rolling down the street or black hawks landing in front of your house? They don’t need to train for Urban combat in U.S cities. The police are being told not to respond to live gunfire during the drills. That terrify s me.

Yes and the Gestapo rounded up the Jews at night.

Nope the drill is for counter insurgency or a possible rebellion. They are also using it to threaten the western states. Both Utah and Texas have had cession meetings and both states clash with Washington a lot. You know this isn’t about Ukraine lets stop pretending. Its not a coincidence they ladled Texas and Utah as hostile and my state as permissive. My state is very liberal and goes along with what ever our president says. Texas and Utah don’t.

I pity the millions dead in the past that didn’t fear their nations armed forces before it was far to late for them. U.S troops have broken down peoples doors before and taken their guns. U.S troops have thrown U.S citizens into camps before for no reason.

You mean like they did in Boston? Or during Katrina? Or hundreds of other cases?

Isn’t that lovely?

#2340

still in the US though :stuck_out_tongue: .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Again have you ever really visited the U.S? You clearly don’t know Americans. Very few would actually fly the American flag. Patriotism and being proud to be an American is very rare these days.
[/quote]i live in london i have seen and met plenty of americans

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Doubtful. As you’ve stated everyone hates us and wants us to collapse. This is why i favour isolationism. Over a million of troops have died in Europe the past century and we receive nothing but hate for being faithful ally.
[/quote] you received are thanks and gratitude , but dont holds us hostage to it .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
royal marines are considered some what special forces.
[/quote] incorrect , they are along side the parachute regiment a spear head unit , the main fighting body of the british army

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
12,000 Royal marines vs 2,000 U.S marines and the Brits were destroyed.
[/quote] i laughed hard at this , diffent days the royal marines were no where near the level they’re today , ohh and try 1812 royal marines took Washington single handily

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
America isn’t Britians child. Its really the worlds child. People of all origins and race came here and crafted something special.
[/quote]the worlds spoilt teenager then

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Similar situation. Japan and the U.S were competing economically. We thought our fleet was untouchable. We got a rude awakening when they destroyed most of Pacific fleet. How ever it just made us pissed and determined to beat the shit out of them.
[/quote] no where near the scale of china today and you know that .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Chinas economy is literately based on ours. It would cripple them very badly if boycotted Chinese goods.
[/quote]would cripple you completely as well be suicide for the US , and china is now building a new world bank which most nations are joining so no they would not collapse the world is preparing for the US downfall already .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Different times. People didn’t rely as much on the system. They knew how to live off the land and that’s why it didn’t happen. Fast forward to today’s time. People lose their shit if they’re without power for a few hours. Stores would be empty people would get hungry and desperate.
[/quote] international aid

#2341

where are they going to do it then ?

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
So you would be okay with troops drilling in your back yard and tanks rolling down the street or black hawks landing in front of your house?
[/quote] not a problem with me . most people here would find it exciting , miltary aircraft fly around london all day long i get Apache’s , chinooks , merlin’s over my house most weeks .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Yes and the Gestapo rounded up the Jews at night.
[/quote] hahahaha fucking hell this is exactly why the world fucking laughs at americans , all your tin hats on listen to how fucking crazy you’re that your comparing a military exercise by your own military to the fucking holocaust get a grip man come on .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
Nope the drill is for counter insurgency or a possible rebellion.
[/quote] so like ukraine then eh or iraq , or syria or basically every current world conflict

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
I pity the millions dead in the past that didn’t fear their nations armed forces before it was far to late for them. U.S troops have broken down peoples doors before and taken their guns. U.S troops have thrown U.S citizens into camps before for no reason.
[/quote] get real

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2339, topic:21032”]
You mean like they did in Boston? Or during Katrina? Or hundreds of other cases?
[/quote] if you have a complaint , complain you will most likely be given comp

#2342

You didn’t obviously see anything other than the base if you think Americans wave flags everywhere.

You clearly haven’t. Most people act ashamed to be American. I’m probably one of the most patriotic people i know and i don’t even fly a flag outside my house.

No we just get hate. Europe has no reason to dislike the U.S. I wish we could have remained an isolationist country. Our closet allies wish death upon us as say they hope we all die and our country collapses.

There was then. Feel free to look it up. The entire Louisiana campaign was a completely and total failure of the British military. At least we actually captured a few places in Canada all the Brits did was get wrecked by Andrew Jackson and his much smaller force of U.S marines.

Americas no more spolid than Europe is.

The American military at the time was actually inferior to the Japanese military. Japan spanked China quite quickly as well. Pearl harbour costed us billions of dollars in today’s money 2000 men and it sent shock waves through the military and public. We didn’t role over and submit we learned from it and won the war.

Not really it would actually help our Economy. We would have to build our own things which would create jobs. Big companies would have to hire American workers instead of Chinese ones. Mean while in China they have a bunch of shit to sell and no buyer. Plus millions of people out of work because the apple factories are closed down and moved back to America.

Africa gets billions of dollars of international aid and it hasn’t done jack shit for them. It would be the darkest moment in Americas history. It would be utter chaos.

We actually have a lot of Fake cities set up for this. Do the British military practice Urban combat in down town London?

much different with them just flying over your house. I have a national guard base near me and a lot of helis and planes fly over head. But this is different. They told the police not to be alarmed if they heard live gun fire and they would be practising on city streets. I just hope the massive protests get it shut down.

Yeah I’m sure people like you laughed when people told the Japanese they were going to be locked up in camps. I’m sure a lot of Jews or Russians doubted their governments would harm them. I hope im wrong but the more and more i see the more i fear I’m right. People like you who pretend governments have never gone tyrannical before are absolute fools.

Except its right around the time that Texas and Utah are having cession talks. You’re clearly not grasping this. In fact the military have been saying how stupid and useless this operation is. There is no need to train in American streets. The military will be occupying government buildings in Texas and Utah.

So you’re denying those things happened? Why don’t you get real. In the last century alone over 200 million people died as result of trusting their government too much. I refuse to join that number so call me crazy all you want i really don’t give a damn.

#2343

@TheDivineInfidel @SirWarriant

The thing about Conspiracy theories is many times they are a self fulfilling Prophecy.

Whether or not this “operation” is strictly a training exercise or not it has the potential to become what it was designed to fight against.

I don’t have sources handy (will look later if motivated) but there was Hijacking scenarios being run by NORAD at the time of the 9/11/01 hijackings which caused a whole shit ton of confusion.

I see a great potential for fear to overcome many Americans during this “operation” and make them feel the need to assemble and protest (potentially armed especially in Texas) giving potential probable cause to implement martial law.

If you look into the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) its rather is to see why Americans are scared, as well as see the Legal rights the federal governments have obtained in recent years to move toward totalitarianism.

I couldn’t find all the old articles I used to have on it. so the rest is by memory.

I recall it stating that protesting on federal property is illegal and persons doing so can be held without first amendment rights.

Overall it was mainly about being able to detain any and all American citizens without trial and against there first amendment rights. this scared allot of people because it gave a reason for all these strange FEMA camps that are popping up around the country. (this is also the root of many of the Holocaust analogies floating around this issue)

America is fighting a war internally and socially, we are always divided on one side of the fence or the other but don’t question whom it is building the fence?

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#2344

went out on a few nights and stole your womens hearts instead :sunglasses: bitches be loving the accents :slight_smile: .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
You clearly haven’t. Most people act ashamed to be American. I’m probably one of the most patriotic people i know and i don’t even fly a flag outside my house.
[/quote]plenty , most are loud and get on your tits after a while of being stuck on a train with them , some are perfectly fine and i have no issues helping them get somewhere or anything they need help i dont hate americans as such i just hate the attitude many have .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
No we just get hate. Europe has no reason to dislike the U.S. I wish we could have remained an isolationist country. Our closet allies wish death upon us as say they hope we all die and our country collapses.
[/quote]again total bullshit

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
There was then. Feel free to look it up. The entire Louisiana campaign was a completely and total failure of the British military. At least we actually captured a few places in Canada all the Brits did was get wrecked by Andrew Jackson and his much smaller force of U.S marines.
[/quote] you seem to forget us completly fucking your coast up and that battle was about as good as it got for you .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
Japan spanked China quite quickly as well.
[/quote] yea look at china at the time though .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
Pearl harbour costed us billions of dollars in today’s money 2000 men and it sent shock waves through the military and public. We didn’t role over and submit we learned from it and won the war.
[/quote] you couldnt take china today thats the truth of it , they would simply fortify
there entire nation

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
Not really it would actually help our Economy. We would have to build our own things which would create jobs. Big companies would have to hire American workers instead of Chinese ones. Mean while in China they have a bunch of shit to sell and no buyer. Plus millions of people out of work because the apple factories are closed down and moved back to America.
[/quote] jesus Christ , your not communist you could make apple move its factories , it would take years to shift all of that over to the US not just one night .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
Africa gets billions of dollars of international aid and it hasn’t done jack shit for them. It would be the darkest moment in Americas history. It would be utter chaos.
[/quote] thats because there corrupt and i was thinking more along the lines of food .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
We actually have a lot of Fake cities set up for this.
[/quote] not true , this is what they want currently the only nation that has a city as such to pratice in is israel , you have small villages they can set up but not a city .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
Do the British military practice Urban combat in down town London?
[/quote] no we do not as of now , i believe we are seeking to build a fake city also to carry this out in . but there wouldnt be much of a deal if the army did it hear , they do it in the country side alot .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2342, topic:21032”]
much different with them just flying over your house. I have a national guard base near me and a lot of helis and planes fly over head. But this is different. They told the police not to be alarmed if they heard live gun fire and they would be practising on city streets. I just hope the massive protests get it shut down.
[/quote] i trust you will be joining these protests then ?

if you want to live in a fucked up world where you fear your own government good luck to you

#2345

then i trust both of you will be protesting

#2346

No I will be watching ever vigilant from afar.

All protests no matter what there intention are subject to group think and irrational, emotional “in the moment” thinking.

I simply choose to think of all possible outcomes.

#2347

the troops will be sat down for days of the most boring classroom sessions ever about how to conduct themselves around the public , who to report to if you damage anything etc , you really have nothing to worry about . they are not going to be kicking your doors in etc or putting you under martial law , relax and enjoy the show

#2348

Don’t tell me, tell the several thousand “eat anything social media feeds me yuppies” that fill the streets of America.

I live just outside Portland Oregon, sadly I had to travel through downtown Portland during Occupy Portland.

Mostly it was a collection of meth and heroin addicts, and every hipster yuppy that will throw themselves behind a cause because someones says it against “The Man”.

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#2349

From which game is that!?
The Winner will get a Like! XD XD
[The best Ambient-Muisc-Sound-Track-whatever i’ve ever heard.][1] 6:21
Best part begins at 1:38
(You can listen online or download)
Hint: release: 2000
game type Stealth :smiley:
[1]: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/3i5t44daodmc2dd/Running+Interference.mp3

#2350

im lost :slight_smile: …

#2351

Hint: Game is from the year 2000 and a Stealth game :smiley:

#2352

its from thief :slight_smile: the old old one

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#2353

sit the fuck down guys im too good :sunglasses:

#2354

Yes, that’s right! I love Thief 2 The Metal Age or it makes me horny! XD

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