totally agree . they blame all their failures on race
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I love how the Africans and Native Americans both kept slaves but that’s always over looked in history because they’re innocent and can never do anything wrong.
She makes no logical argument and just blabbering one about how black people are different. They just want to be oppressed.
This nails it on the head.
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Ill add another thing. She claims there’s been no justice when Britain fought to erase the slave trade and close to 300,000 American men died to try to end slavery. What a fucking cunt. I can’t watch shit like this it makes me to angry.
Best movie ever.
My great-grandpa was enslaved by the Germans during WW2. The German government gave up to international pressure and decided to pay some meager compensation in the 1990s.
But then they found out that quite a lot of ex-slaves and their spouses (offspring would not get anything) were alive, so they deliberately postponed the whole process so that most of the ex-slaves/spouses would die and they would save most of the money. As if the few bucks of compensation per person wasn’t insulting enough.
My great-grandpa never lived long enough to see me being born, and great-grandma just lived long enough to see that the Germans in 2000s are all the same as in 1940s, at least when it comes to money.
Anyway, the US situation is a bit different, as @SirWarriant pointed out considering the number of people who died in the civil war that ended the slavery. I didn’t see the whole video, but the woman at the beginning makes a good point.
If UK profited from stealing from the people (i.e. forcing them to slave), then this profit can be easily counted including interest. And that unjust enrichment should be paid back. It’s all the same with Germans or Swiss stealing from Jews.
Ok but here’s the thing. This happened within the last century. Slavery was ended in Britain in the early 19th century and the mid 19th century in America. No one alive has suffered slavery from the “evil white man”. The fact that she’s claiming emotional damage over something that never happened to her or anyone alive today is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
How does she make a good point. She’s saying blacks can’t move on without millions of dollars in compensation even though they are pretty much guaranteed hand outs and easy ways into collages and a free pass to do what ever the hell they want because they’re black. I’m willing to bet this is the same case in Britain.
Like that one man said Africans kept slaves just like every other culture but according to the women its different. Like i said its okay for them to do horrible things because they’re black and we don’t want to be racist now do we?
So did all of Europe and Africans themselves. The majority of the time slave traders weren’t the ones who actually enslaved the people. Other African tribes would capture other tribes and sell them to Europeans in return for money and protection.
The last point she makes is family’s are still wealthy from slavery today. This is mostly untrue at least in America. After the civil war most slave owners completely lost everything because their work force left the south for a better life in the north. So while there may be a few family’s who are rich off of this the majority aren’t.
And why do only blacks get compensation? Why not the Irish who were treated far worse than the blacks? Irish slaves were cheaper than black slaves and many died in slavery far more than blacks did. Of all the people the U.K mistreated it find it funny that only the blacks are demanding money so they don’t have to work in life. What about Asia? Burma, India ect. I don’t see them wanting a hand out.
The last thing ill say is that she really pissed me off by saying that black slavery was any different than whites being enslaved? How was it? Slaves have always been treated horribly white slaves were no exception.
Same thing with the U.K. The slave traders and owners lost everything when the slave trade stopped. Everyone was big on conquest. So im always confused why the U.K and America get so much shit for conquering people. Thats how you got wealthy back then as a country. You invaded some other country for their riches. It was just the way the world works. African and Native American tribes would do the same things as Europeans just on a smaller scale.
I don’t condone U.S or European imperialism, but pretending like Europeans or Americans are the only countries with blood on their hands is absurd (like this women is claiming).
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If you read carefully, I referred only to her opening point on unjust enrichment.
Again, I was referring to the situation of people who live in ex-colonies. These people hardly get any preferential treatment.
While open slavery (other person’s outright ownership) may have ended long time ago there, the factual colonial occupation and abuse of local resources - including people - continued well within the 1950s.
Now that is outright not true. For example, one of the leading causes of WW1 was that Germany also wanted to get its own share of the third world resources abuse (including manpower). UK was one of the leading colonial powers and as such it extremely profited from the slavery and abuse of people elsewhere - after all, that was why the US broke away. Just that most other countries had the same luck two hundred years later.
I agree with you on that.
They may have lost their free-of-charge workforce and ability to cheaply produce on their field, however they did retain ownership of the fields as well as all the past profits from the decades of use of slaves.
Having farmland anywhere around you as far as you can see can hardly be called being poor, even if the farmland is not - at the time and with the past technology - profitable (as it is today again).
No, you are missing the point entirely. The UK as such profited from slavery and abuses that followed slavery to the point it became the world’s largest superpower (as opposed from US, which gained its status mostly due to its own people’s hard work).
The profit that the UK as such (not the individual slave owners) made from the slavery as well as the whole colonial occupation may be counted, and with interest, paid back to raise countries that were for the decades and centuries intentionally kept in poverty by sucking any and all of local profits.
As I said, I didn’t watch it all, and I don’t agree with the points raised entirely. However, she does have a good argument when it comes to unjust enrichment that the UK got from profiting from slavery (as well as colonialism).
True but a lot of them aren’t trying to make things better. Much of Africa still has chieftains and some what of a tribal system like Kony which hold them back. There was a modern town built somewhere in Africa that was funded by international aid. It was a thriving place and could pass as a modern city. How ever the local warlord wasn’t fond of it and he rolled in with aks and burned the damn place down.
What about all the other European powers that conquered land in Africa? They profited off Africans suffering as well. Belgium is often considered the worst with what they did in the Congo.
Yes but they had no one to work those fields. Most of the men returning form the war had missing limbs or some other disability and a lot of the ex slave went up North for a better life. A lot of the plantation owners simply closed down.
Yeah the U.K profited a lot from Africa how ever they weren’t the only country to do so. I don’t think citizens should have to pay for something their ancestors may or may not have committed. The people who profited the most from this were probably the royal family so i could see them trying to rebuild some of these countries but i don’t think they should just shell out millions of dollars for these countries to do what they please with it because we all know that won’t do any good.
Half-a-dozen participated in this. There are 50 countries in Europe. Hardly “all”.
Even if you stop producing, your land still has value. It is not like a manufacturing plant, which has value only as long as it is a going concern.
I pointed out to UK only because that was the topic. Of course, others, like Belgium, are liable too.
I also don’t think that. What I am saying is that the country/government should pay back the profits the country/previous governments stole. Simple as that.
That is like listening to Czech communist. They took all industry as well as farmland away from the owners in the 1950s. Then in the 1990s they were saying the state should not return it, because the owners will do as they please with that property and that will not profit the society.
In a society ruled by the rule of law, people as well as states need to pay for their past transgressions. I am not saying that we should go back half-a-millenia and start paying off to each other for what has happened in 1400s in Europe, however where there is a rich state which quite clearly got a large part of its profit by benefiting from slavery and colonialism, then clearly that very state needs to be held liable.
It is as wrong as it is for Germany not paying for destroying half the Europe (and that most notably its Eastern part).
Almost every country as conquered at some point though we can’t just go around paying everyone for things we did in the past. Blacks would be doing much better if they didn’t sit around and bitch about how white people mistreated them in the past. They could be out getting jobs instead of playing the victims. (strange concept for them i know).
You’re missing the point though. The thing that gave their land value was the cotton. The slaves weren’t usually there to pick cotton anymore. Not to mention a lot of plantation owners blew their money on supplies for the Confederate army. All i know is that a lot of plantations shut down in the south after the war due to lack of a labor force.
Yeah but she was saying that all blacks needed money for the emotional damage so they could move on as a race. I never heard her say that the money should go to African governments.
You missed my point. Giving money to most African governments is like giving tanks to the Iraq army or Ukraine. Its just going to end up in the wrong hands. Giving money to them would just be financing their corrupt governments or the warlords. Just look at how well “rebuilding” Iraq went. Like i said above when ever a village starts to move towards a better life some dick head warlord roles in and ruins it all. I could see the British government sending in troops to deal with local warlords or help the government deal with them but that didn’t work out too well for America when we tried that in Somalia.
Yes America tried the whole “lets pay off our guilt thing”. If you go into a black community or an Indian reservation you will see how well that worked out. They get a mentality going. “Why should we get a job when a nice check will come from the government each month”. It does nothing but create poverty and laziness.
Germany paying the victims of its crimes are different. These crimes happened not to long ago in history but slavery happened a very very long time ago and there is no one alive who was enslaved by the brits or Americans. Should i get compensation from the British government because my ancestors were mistreated by the British crown in Ireland over 100 years ago?
every single nation on earth , every culture and race has profited for slavery at one point .
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Anyway, the US situation is a bit different, as @SirWarriant pointed out considering the number of people who died in the civil war that ended the slavery
[/quote] are you aware then that the first nation on earth to outlaw slavery was the UK ? (100 years before the US ) we also deployed the royal navy and large number of troops to stop other nations from doing it . which would of cost alot of money .
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damn right it is drives me up the wall . people are people . you often find the ones that scream racist are the ones that bring up race in the first place .
much like in the row on immigration they straight away scream race when it has nothing to do with it
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there is often this false idea that the white man rode into to towns and kidnapped blacks which is not the complete truth most of the time we bought the slaves off other black people
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Yep you were the first to outlaw it and we had a big war over it. Also the U.S only practiced slavery as a nation for around 90 years (only around 2 or 3 slave generations). But strangely enough people seem to think we were the only ones to practice it.
They actually made quite a good movie about the abolition of slavery in Britain called Amazing Grace. (no its not a religious movie).
what shit you talking . they were run the same way the Falklands is today . and our other oversea’s territory’s .
it was quite common for you to take your defeated enemies slave everyone was at it .
she must think when the zulu’s captured a British soldier they set him up in a lovely cell and fed him well
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you have a real stupid view of how we run our empire . go learn about it first
Heres some Indians with some black children as slaves. People always love to think Indians were peace loving but the truth is they were brutal savages and did just as horrible things as white people. A little known fact is along the Trail of Tears the Indians dragged along their slaves with them.
Britain sends over £9bn a year to the developing world i think we have paid a enough . plus all the billions we poured into this nations we "oppressed " to build up their infrastructure so we could take all there shit even quicker 
while we are at then . as a cezch , a nation which formed part of the german war machine , when can we expect payment for all the damage you caused to the UK during the bombings ?
Ill agree with @snejdarek on the fact that the British empire and American imperialism was bad and did result in a lot of innocent blood and slavery but i do not agree that we should have to pay money for something almost every culture and country practiced like Conquest and Slavery.
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