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If you want to win you have to be wealthy.

bullshit obama was a lecturer at a university before becoming state senator and earned $32,144 a year then become a state senator while still teaching which gave him a combined salary of $120,000 so no you dont . you just have to get involved in politics.

like in any business you start at the bottom and work your way up . having the mental ability to do so is what deserves the respect as it would involve total commitment to it and total 24/7 focus .
most people dont have this focus which is why most people live out boring lives and never really accomplish what they would like too :slight_smile:
so while i dont agree with him politically i respect him

Fuck, I went to the range in the evening and I couldn’t hit shit. This was my worst range day EVER so far. More days like that and I can start making steamboat replicas from paper or something instead of shooting for leisure.

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Do you know that Czechs were the only occupied nation that was not allowed to enlist in Wehrmacht/SS, because Hitler distrusted them to the point that they were under no circumstances to be armed? You can see even mongol members of SS, but no Czechs.

That was due to what was happening in the first world war. Czech Crown lands were part of Austria-Hungary, however whole regiments just deflected with all of the equipment and fought Austrians/Germans. During one battle, a whole regiment just started marching with band playing to the enemy side. The enemies were made aware of it in advance so they stopped shooting while the Austrians were just baffled and didn’t know what was happening. The Czechs just got to the trenches on the opposite side and immediately started shooting back :smile:

Being captured would of course mean summary execution for desertion, so they were known for fighting till the last drop of blood. In few instances the Czech soldiers went ahead so fiercely to the point that they completely broke off the allied lines. The other soldiers reported that the Czechs deserted only to find out hours later that they cleared the trenches on the opposite side and were waiting for the others to join.

Hitler knew too well to let Czechs do any part in WW2, even though on paper he controlled the entire state. It is too bad you don’t know it too, especially considering that 2.000 Czech airmen fought in RAF and took major part in winning the Battle of Britain. Oh, and then the Czech government paid for every soldier’s uniform, every gallon of plane fuel, every single bullet fired, to the British whom those airmen protected.

This is what Hitler feared:

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No he went to Harvard you don’t get into that school without having money. Also 120,000 a year is a lot not to mention the millions in sponsers during his election.

There is nothing to respect about that commie traitor cowardice murdering son of a bitch

Oh please who becomes the U.S president is not up tot he voters anymore. Elections are set up to make us think we still have a say in things.

@snejdarek @TheDivineInfidel

he makes some pretty valid points in this video.

Apparenty, this guy never heard of Winchester firearms :smile:

not 100% true . you're correct in the way that there was no dedicated cezch unit which there was for every other nation even the UK , india . HOWEVER cezchs did serve in the german army for example its estimated about 5,000 Czechs served in the SS along side the Slovaks.

what your doing is separating Sudetenland from the rest of the Czech republic to serve your point . all the citizens in Sudetenland were given german citizenship and then drafted into the german army as normal so yes cezch did serve in the german army and SS .

for example a Czech called Martin Hrustak served in the german army . look him up :slight_smile:

so i accept all major credit cards for the compensation i fully deserve for the mental trauma of the whole of the war as its effected me deeply

HOWEVER you’re correct for the rest of the cezch republic as it wasnt part of the formal Nazi empire it was flogged off as a protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia

and of course you have our greatness thanks for the airmen that helped protect the UK . alot of people over look the fact that the UK was the last beacon of hope for europe as it was believed as long as we held the UK europe could be saved so nearly every european nation rallied as many airmen as possible to help protect our beautiful island :slight_smile:

the polish used to cause the RAF so much pain though . theres stories of the polish chasing the german bombers right across the channel into france and not having enough fuel to get back :slight_smile:

“Never was so much owed by so many to so few”

but alas we are getting side tracked im mearly trying to point out how fucking stupid the womans argument is that we owe her or any other black individual anything

that was inly after he entered politics though before that irrelevant of his education he was only on 32k a year . so no you dont have to be rich at all .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:2621, topic:21032”]
Oh please who becomes the U.S president is not up tot he voters anymore. Elections are set up to make us think we still have a say in things
[/quote] irrelevant your not seeing my point that it takes fucking hard work and commitment to get in the position in the first place

No, they didn’t. You had to be of German nationality and receive German citizenship if you were from the occupied Czechoslovakia to be allowed to serve in Wehrmacht or SS.

There was the “Governmental army” of about 5.000 Czech soldiers that was formally under the occupation government. However, they were never allowed to go to the front because Germans were afraid of large scale desertion. By 1944 Germans became even worried that these soldiers would take part in uprising so they were sent to Northern Italy, also outside of warfare area. There, as expected, the unit faced numerous desertions - 800 out of the about 5000 soldiers deserted and either joined resistance there, or moved to France and joined the allied forces there.

Martin Hrustak - German national (although Czechoslovak citizen until 1939).

With this logic Ferdinand Porsche was also Czech?

So please shut your mouth with that bullshit about Czechs serving in Wehrmacht/SS. Czechs were officially prohibited to serve German war cause.

And I should know that since one my great-grandfather served and died in Wehrmacht - as a German - while other part of the family fought and died in the Silesian resistance.

Not true, about half-a-million Czechs were first forced out of the Sudetenland into the core Bohemian/Moravian territory (+ tens of thousands of German opposition members from Germany who moved in 1930s to Sudetenland to escape Nazi oppression at home). Basically, unless you were German, there was no way for you to stay in Sudetenland. And unless you proclaimed German nationality (and accepted German citizenship), you could not serve Nazi war cause (unlike in Belgium/Estonia/France, etc. etc.).

Last but not least, once you proclaimed German nationality (and thus became eligible to serve German war cause) you needed to prove after the war that you actively opposed Nazi regime, or you would not regain the Czechoslovak citizenship.

This is a November 1944 letter (taken from a contemporary Czech Nazi webpage) from the SS main office SS-Hauptsturmführer Doleczalek to Karl Herman Frank:

“Considering that there are already 35 nations fighting as a part of Waffen-SS, many of which are ratially, culturally, and historically much further from the Germans than Czechs, who have lived intertwined with the Empire for 1000 years and who have remained relatively calm during the war compared to other nations, it would be only appropriate, that […] they were allowed to fight as part of the German union. There is a number of former officers of Austrian-Hungarian army who are now ready to enlist.”

As bad as any Czech would have wanted (be it back then or the neo-nazis today), he simply could not have joined Wehrmacht/SS.

He was obviously being supported by someone with a large income seeing how he went to freaking Harvard.

All you have to do is win the hearts and minds of America which isn’t that hard anymore. Like i said all he had to say is “Rich people are like Nazis” “Gays are god like beings” “I promise to give all blacks free phones for voting for me” “Im going to let all Mexicans come here illegally and stay” oh and last but certainly not least America sucks". That’s all he had to say.

Anyway i don’t think elections are real anymore. The opposition aren’t there to win they are there to make us seem like we have a say in things.

@snejdarek @TheDivineInfidel

Skip to 17:00 you’ll see the police talking about how they are training to take on gun owners and veterans. You will also see the national guard training to take on American citizens.

At 17:40 the officer says and i quote “There are a lot of gun owners and constitionalists that’s why we need these mraps”.

I would also like to add that Walmarts are closing all over the nation which is fucking scary because FEMA said they would use super stores as “temporary detention centers for American dissidents”.

Well @McWonderBeast do you think we’re fucked when July 15th roles around?

Nope. NWO only has power if you lend it fear.

Well the only thing that really helps me rest easy is knowing that we aren’t defenseless. Add to the fact that there’s over 30 million veterans in the U.S that are considered terrorists. It wont be pretty if cops and 18 year old national guard go up against 20 year combat veterans who have been in front line combat.

@snejdarek im sure you of all people having lived in an ex communist country and your country having been under the Nazi rule have studied the tyrannical take over of many European countries take over and the military arresting people.Can you tell me if you see any similarities?

That is pretty retarded training, with no crowd control gear, no guns, just a few batons.

There are always plenty idiots. Clearly, what he meant is that in society that is as armed as American and as violent as American, they need gear that can withstand heavy gunfire.

That is something I would really like to see/hear from FEMA :smile:

Although we can learn from the past, we need to ready for the wars of tomorrow, not yesterday. Any future tyranny will come in a different way and will use different means that those that have already failed. We can see that with Putin in Russia today, who may be as powerful as the chairmans of communist party were in the past, but who is using different method to achieve this power.

As regards US, we have all seen the erosion of the civil rights (constitution or no constitution), especially after 9/11. You live in a country where the government has decided it has a right to kill its citizens without any due process - that is something that not even the Czech communists would do when they took power. They were careful enough to set up a mock trial and get “judicial” conviction first before they would kill someone.

You live in a country where you can be arrested and held for years without any charges. And if you are eventually charged, the charges may be based on admission of guilt forced by torture, and courts will accept that as valid evidence for conviction.

You live in a country that has basically only two political parties, both of which are entirely in the pockets of few wealthy people. It is similar everywhere, but in countries like the Czech Republic the wealthy never know which party to bet on because that party can always become disfavored by the voters quite fast and become entirely irrelevant (which is what happened to the party that held government in 1992-1997 and 2006-2013 - imho it will never recover).

Not to mention that large part of your economy is based on weapons industry and requires your country to be in a constant war in order to prevent economic downfall (much like Russia today).

On the other hand you still have freedom of expression, unlike UK where this has been curbed almost to the level like in the communist Czechoslovakia (especially as regards expression of opinions on religion). You still have your guns, which is something that any possible tyranny fears the most.

But what is most precious is that US does have a large population for which freedom is the most important value. People who are ready to eat dirt as long as they are free. That is very precious and you can’t take it for granted, ever. Just look at countries like Hungary, Greece, whose population is completely ready to give up any and all freedoms immediately for appearance of economic savior, or Russia where people will be happy to give up all freedoms as long as the country will be perceived as a strong world power it used to be three decades ago.

You’re trying to make a situation black and white to prove your point .
You made a claim that didn’t sound right . I researched it and found out it’s not completely true .

" Sudetenland " was part of Czechoslovakia And is part of cezch Republic today so the people that live there are cezch . Hitler made them German citizens when he occupied the area . But prior to that they were cezch citizens and would/are today . So to say no cezch ever fought for the Germans is completely fucking wrong .

Your twisting and distorting the facts and I’ve called you out and you don’t like it . So your gonna get aggressive ? Fine doesn’t make you anymore right

Where was your grandfather born ?

Also the guy I mentioned was born in Bohemia so that throws your point completely out the window .
Your basing your entire argument on citizenship because when you do that your right however when you look at where the person was born he is as much a cezch as you are .

I can get an American citzenship but it wouldn’t make me American id still be English

Yes I would he was born in cezch Republic that makes him cezch by any legal system on the planet

So there still cezchs by birth . They may of turned there backs on it and sworn alligence to germany and accepted German citzenship but by birth they remain cezchs .

I could move to France swear allligence to France and be granted French citzenship and join the French army but by birth I will always be English