hahaha gangster turned mummies boy
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just looking for any excuse to commit crime . this is where all our CCTV came in handy in our riots .
cunts thought they got away with it 3 days later police are kicking in there door . our courts were going 24/7 for a number of weeks . they went through every inch of footage and picked out the vast majority of rioters so next to none got away with it
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Well, they were given room to destroy. And that in a place where it is much harder to get CC permit than, let’s say, Prague, Czech Republic.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/robert-farago/random-thoughts-about-room-to-destroy/
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Looking at the footage it looks as if this is a very poor area so even if CC was allowed (if it isn’t already ) I doubt the people living in the area can afford a firearm at least not many so 2-3 people with guns isn’t going to stop hundreds of toss pots looting
If a line of armed police isn’t enough to stop it what difference are you gonna make in stopping it ?
They have done the best option , allow the national guard to deal with it
Well there are different issues at play here.
When it comes to cost of guns. In my country, the license will cost you under €100. If you are on budget, you can get extremely reliable ex-police CZ-83 for €100. Poor or not, if you are worried about your safety you will be able to cough out the € 200. On top of that I’d suggest at least € 200 for ammo and range time for basic training, but that is optional. I am sure that you can get within that budget in US too.
Then there are two other issues - personal protection of self and general chance of stopping looting in your community.
Personal protection comes to play when you happen to be on the street (you go shopping, pick up kids from school) or the looters happen to get into your house. Unlike targeted crime in normal circumstances, you will face rioters, who want to just do a bit of damage and steal something they consider useful. They sure as hell don’t want to encounter armed civilian. So just being armed will keep you safe in most circumstances. Where it won’t, then using the gun will. Nobody can argue that in the moment a mob attacks you it is better to be unarmed than armed.
Stopping looting - there you clearly need to have quite a few homeowners on the roofs and at the beginning of the street with their firearms visible. The mob will prefer to move towards police in riot gear rather than into militia patroled street.
It worked in LA, it would work also elsewhere.
http://cdn5.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/58852252.jpg
Oh, that is where you are wrong. They are able to stop it, they just got politically motivated order not to do so. They were told to stay out of the area and let the looters do as they wish.
As regards police being armed - that is completely useless when they have orders not to fire (which, on the other hand is understandable in democratic society). They also have the gear to withstand stones and punches.
Civilian doesn’t have neither orders, the gear and nor the will to withstand any of that. Every rioter instinctively knows that armed cop will arrest him for attacking him, while CCer will most probably shoot back.
What you are saying that at the moment when lives of people are in danger, these people should not be allowed to be armed for self defense, but rather wait for other people with guns to arrive (and meanwhile get beaten, robbed or burned alive).
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.
Well CC is almost banned in that area but if i lived there and could get weapon i would in a heart beat. The chances you being killed by a gang is horrendous and the police response time in those areas are like 30 minutes so the people always get away.
Would you want to have CC in Chicago where you’re twice as likely to be killed there, than you were in your time in Afghanistan?
The national guard are merely there to contain the looting they wont be able to stand at everyone’s house.
Indeed all these riots have been started by the left because they always turn it into a race war. The whole trayvon martin riots started when Obama decided to say “If i had a son he would look like trayvon”.
This mayor bitch decides "hey a black person died in police custody in a city where most the cops are black. " "i know lets turn it into a race issue and let all the thugs ruin innocent peoples lives.
Im also very surprised Obama condemned the rioting because in Ferguson he simply said “they have a right to be angry”.
I think that this has changed since the citizens’ right to bear arms were restored.
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Sorry blending in with American citizens would not be of any help in pretty any other country.
@snejdarek @SirWarriant of course defend your home . thats exactly what i would do . fortify my house and defend myself . but what use are you trying to play vigilante on the streets by yourself ? none . the problem is these looters are all "ganagbangers " so the sight of a gun isnt going to do much to scare them as we see with the police .
so where as in @snejdarek case or my case a sight of a gun could well do the trick in this case it isnt going to have the same effect so you have two options go out and shoot every last one of the cunts (not a bad idea ) or just defend your house and hope the national guard and police deal with them
i find it interesting though that you are so worried about your military training to deal with US citizens and uprising etc but these cases show damn well the military need such training .
Tell it to this reporter who was saved by a guy with shotgun.
https://iqmediacorp.com/ClipPlayer/?ClipID=28fb4ec2-116a-4f36-8cb7-f782c5132e3e
Nobody advocated that. Please stop spinning my words.
Yeah, when you are on your own, you need to stay home and stay put.
If all of the neighbors come out on the street armed, then that is all they will need to do - come out and stand around armed. No gangbangers will run against 10 guys, even if those 10 have only hunting rifles and not AR 15s (or Vz.58s as would probably be the case in my country).
Watching this video I just can’t believe how terribly underequipped the cops are.
It is either no equipment (apart from helmet and shield) or full out downtown Kabul. That is so messed up.
what minute was that ?
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Yeah, when you are on your own, you need to stay home and stay put.
If all of the neighbors come out on the street armed, then that is all they will need to do - come out and stand around armed. No gangbangers will run against 10 guys, even if those 10 have only hunting rifles and not AR 15s (or Vz.58s as would probably be the case in my country).
[/quote] but see your changing the entire situation . this is a poor black area there isnt going to be 10 well of guys with AR-15’s
actually downtown Kabul is a fuck load safer 
well you mentioned CC …concealed carry … so most likely means your out side of your house …most likely meaning your engaging in the action towards the looters making you a vigilante or have a go hero .
brave but not very effective
“The full might of the US military has never been directed toward them. Don’t confuse political limits with military limits. The US military could flatten ISIS in the span of a few weeks. Global politics is the issue.”
one of the comments … so fucking true it hurts
Around 3rd minute.
That is why I said simple hunting rifles.
Entirely new semi-auto Vz.58 costs € 200 in the Czech Republic (don’t you love the military surpluses). I am sure there must be some cheap “mean looking” and effective guns in US too.
Please read the context:
Don’t take me wrong. If it was happening in Prague where I live now and I don’t even know my neighbors, I get out and away from the city (armed). I wouldn’t sit at home, be it armed or not, and wait.
If it was happening in my home town where every other household (OK, let’s say every fourth) has arms and people know each other, then we put guns on our backs and go barbecue in the middle of the street. (Even if open carry is against the law, but thankfully it is misdemeanor and misdemeanors are dealt with by local municipal committee, so good luck with enforcement under the circumstances).
Fortunately, this would happen in neither of the two.
(Not that there wouldn’t be locations where this might be possible in my country, but no politician would ever dare to give order to police to stand down so it is impossible to imagine the things to go that bad, or as bad as they went in London)