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you failed to provide proof what you provided was an article in which it talks about accusation from conservatives with no actual proof.

politicians like to throw accusations at each other at every possible moment most of it completely lacking evidence so you should take such things with a pinch of salt until they provide solid evidence

After Bush, have you elected an actual horse or jack ass or a dog into White House, everyone everywhere would rejoice. It is not Obama, it is what preceded him.

When communists here were contemplating using army as the last resort when they were about to lose in 1989 in Czechoslovakia, the generals simply told them to fuck off.

Well that training might make sense if they are getting ready for UK or Australia, but you won’t blend anywhere else because… language. So much for training blending in in foreign operations.

And national guard is what exactly?

thats why most special operations team have language specialists :slight_smile: and are taught the lagauge to a decent level before deployment but the entire team must be able to look normal and leave the majority of the talking where possible to the language specialist be him a part of the unit or a hired translator from that nation like what is used in afgan.

its a combination of skill but acting normal is just as big as the language its self . when using actors to play the role of the civilians or enemy troops you dont get that same realism because the actors knows who you’re so may miss certain little give aways that you may notice if your not actually looking for give aways if that makes sense .

im sure you have experienced it before when you think someone is just a little odd . that you cant really put your finger on

near enough miltary but dont come under miltary command as such. and out of them all i would say they are the most worrying as where the miltary is not allowed to get involved in domestic issues the national guard can

Oh fuck off. You’ve listed those same fucking websites in your arguments before but now when i link them they’re “bullshit”. You clearly didn’t read them either. Most of the people who were audited were not politicians just people who criticised the Obama administration.

So again how would blending in with America citizens help them in Ukraine or the middle east? They dress differently and speak different languages.

Wait are you saying that none of the blame is on Obama’s shoulders?

National guard are under the command of the state governor. They are meant to be used for state emergency’s like an out of control city or helping during a flood like they did in my state last year.

… Thats not how Jade Helm is working. They’re not going to have unit translators blend in they are going to have all the soldiers blend in and ask questions. This kind of training would only help in ENGLISH speaking countries.

@TheDivineInfidel How do you actually do re-enactments in UK? Do people have at least disarmed firearms? I know that Germans come to the Czech Republic because they can’t really do re-enactments in Germany.

From today:
http://ostrava.idnes.cz/foto.aspx?r=ostrava-zpravy&c=A150430_193150_ostrava-zpravy_jog&foto=JOG5aeb4d_184208_4181159.jpg
Nothing like privately owned tank with functioning guns (even if it is 70 years old) :smile:

I am saying that nobody is judging Obama for what he is, he merely gets praise for not being Bush.

But yeah, giving him the Nobel Peace Prize, that should need more merit than just not being Bush :wink:

the ones i post normally have proof or from a neutral prospective the article you posted was basically just outlining the accusation . from the conservatives .

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So again how would blending in with America citizens help them in Ukraine or the middle east? They dress differently and speak different languages.
[/quote] your not this stupid surly come on ive fucking outlined it too you how they dress and speak is irrelevant . its impossible to train for every single culture and language on the planet and they cant go and train in ukraine or the middle east like this .

generally the unit will be set a intelligence gathering task . it may be something along the lines of scouting a public library for example and draw up a plan of attack . this will invlove them in plain clothes to go in and in any way gather the information needed from entrance points to exit points . during this they may need to communicate with people around them .

so the military has asked the population to report anything they feel is suspicious . the unit should be able to do this without raising suspicion if they cant then they will keep doing it until there isnt an issue .

this skill is so fucking important in regards to special forces this is what they do inbed in civilian population , cause havoc and send intel back for a main invasion or assault force .

the opportunity to practice this with a real life unbrifed civilian population is unchallenged and as close to the real thing as they cant get irrelevant of language and culture .

your so fucking hooked on this us government is out to kill you all that you cant even fucking think straight .

irrelevant .

im not 100% sure but blanks are perfectly legal here without any licence so as long as its done on land where they have permission i cant think of any laws they would be breaking

yes its called gathering fucking intelligence can they get this information from civilians without seeming suspicious . how can you not see the logic behind this situation ?

So practising commutating with American citizens in English with American accents will prepare troops for Ukraine or Afghanistan?

We were already briefed.

I don’t think Jade helm is them killing us i think its training for martial law.

Um how?

Because blending in with American citizens is COMPLETELY fucking different then blending in with Arabs or people from Ukraine.

Sounds pretty damn stupid seeing how Obama would let Russia take Eastern Europe without a fight. He pretty much handed Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter.

Bush did exactly the same with Georgia, and that in situation when US-Georgian relationships were much tighter with quite a few Georgian soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan.

So, that is nothing new, really.

Taking into account the economic sanctions, the current response has been a step further then it was under previous administration. I still think it should go further and just cut Russia off entirely. Let them build their own paradise with North Korea and Kazachstan as a friends and China as only relevant purchaser of oil and gas. Their economy will be bankrupt in three years and then we can talk again after they leave the occupied territories abroad.

This is quite to the point.

I fucking hated him too. Like i said i believe he murdered over 3,000 Americans as a pretext to invade Iraq. Liberals always scream “oh everyone is the way it is because of Bush Obama is the best president ever”. Because they can’t agree he’s a horrible president.

Again that videos stupid. Trys to make him out like this cool man of the people.
It just blows my mind that Europeans love and defend that jack ass so much. He is quite possibly the worst president we have ever had (If Hillary gets in she will be even worse).

I think i made it quite clear i don’t like Bush either. I don’t think we’ve have a good president since JFK and he got a bullet in the head for clashing with the government.

Yes he’s so great! A true man of the people ! Why don’t you guys take a him for a spin for say four years?
He’ll have double the amount of people on welfare, triple the amount on food stamps and constant attacks on your gun rights. Mistreatment of your veterans is a must with him and many will die before they can receive treatment at the VA hospital.

Not to mention more debt than all other 43 presidents combined in one term. Yeah sounds like a great leader to me.

no by this mean a proper briefing . (soldiers wont even of been given this yet ) the actors (normally also soldiers ) will be told exactly where to stand what to do and what to say etc . so it makes it all a tad scripted .

doing it in an unscripted environment with people that dont know whats going on is a real as its gonna get .

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So practising commutating with American citizens in English with American accents will prepare troops for Ukraine or Afghanistan?
[/quote] your not reading what im putting . the military can not train like this outside of the US .
the language and culture is mission specific and is dealt mission by mission but the skill of acting normal is universal . this training is extremely useful .

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Because blending in with American citizens is COMPLETELY fucking different then blending in with Arabs or people from Ukraine.
[/quote] not at all . you just change clothing and language . body language is universal

@SirWarriant American flags were flying high today in the city of Pilsen. Just go through the links here:

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LOLZ

How can one be among the biggest fans and yet know nothing about it?

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Ive gathered from the 4-5 threads he’s opened, that he hasn’t even watched a single update video.

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Or read a single thread.

I really wanted to write him a huge response telling him

A. every thread he posted could have been lumped into one
B. Using the search function would have given him enough to read for the rest of his life.
C. watching video update or IDK simply reading the fucking FAQ would answer all his questions

This statement makes me face palm every time I read it. youre an idiot for thinking you can chop down a fucking night.

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So once again blending in with American citizens (pretty much just living their normal lives). Will help them in a middle eastern setting. Makes sense.

Looks, clothing, culture, language. You know cause America isn’t that much different than the middle east or Ukraine…