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I honestly Have not looked into any potential candidates. I didn’t vote in the presidential election last year nor do I intend on doing so this year.

Presidents do not win based on popular vote, our voting system is a sham until we do away with electoral college I will not participate in presidential elections.

However I do vote for local an state office positions.

Have you seen the theories on how the mass of Christians were led to believe he was white?

you have the first past the post like us dont you ? fucking shit system .

one of our parties (SNP) got 1.5 million votes and got 56 seats in parliament (out of about 600) and UKIP who got 4.5 million votes only got 1 yes one seat how is that right or fair at all .

but it has now woke the nation up about it a little and the ball has started to roll for us to change it (fingers crossed )

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cant see the image for some reason . but it literally would make no sense for jesus to be white unless mary cheated with a roman soldier (we all know she cheated )

i mean come on if your girlfriend suddenly become pregnant without you having sex for a while and she turns round and says " i was visited by an angel and god made me pregnant " we would all just throw and shoe at her as we kicked her out our houses but ohh no stupid religious people belief that shit :slight_smile:

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Google Cesare Borgia. you can find many references on who he was but I can only find one photo of him.

Its interesting to study the rise of Christianity and see the parallels of the rise of the power of the church and leaders like hitler.

Power is easily achieved when you take advantage of the weak minded. Its funny I will have to try and find it but I saw a great article once showing the religious philosophies that are argued in star wars.

He was Jewish so yes he would have been darker skin but he was not hardly a rag head. The turban is a religious thing.

But what makes them not rigged? :smile:

Yes this is correct. The Europeans didn’t want to fight against people who looked like Jesus AKA middle eastern people so the pope made the white Jesus that we know today.

Yeah Jesus preached non violence, peace, and love. Hitler preached violence, anti Semitism, and the idea that whites were the purest. One was hated by his people (the jews) another was loved by his people.
In addition Hitler was thrown in jail for rebellious actions against the government. Many of the jews in Jesus’s time wanted to over throw their Roman rulers. When Jesus didn’t want to go along with this they rejected him as the messiah and had him executed.
Totally the same thing.

I would appreciate it if you stopped referring to me as “weak minded” pretty much calling me an idiot who can’t think for my self. I don’t waver in my beliefs and i am not easily convinced to follow others so please don’t say that.

Man you really need to read whats typed. I never compared Jesus’s teachings to anything,

I was referring to the people who used the teachings of the bible to blind the ignorant masses of the population to further their agenda.

The church structure and many of their leaders are corrupt, not the doctrine (or those who follow its true teachings).

When did I ever mention you?

I was specifically referring to the early origins of the religion (you know the people that could not read and only knew what was taught to them through sermons that were dictated by the speaker) and those that used the divine word to corrupt the minds of the uneducated. Same thing Hitler did in Germany and many other evil leaders through history.

I would appreciate if stopped acting like anything said about Christianity was a personal attack against you.

The “early Church” would have been the 12 disciples who preached to the masses. Almost all of them were killed by the Romans so no i don’t believe they were out to further their own agenda.

You didn’t directly but you’ve made it quite clear that you think anyone who follows Christianity are weak minded. You were clearly referring to Christians by that sentence.

That’s the first time ive mentioned anything about personal attacks. I never even brought that up when you told that i was “blinded by my faith”. I’m sorry being blinded by something clearly means you think i’m weak minded.

I was not aware that the 12 apostles had copies of it already.

No I have not. this your opinion.

Yeah in response too…

Someone who actually directly insulted the intelligence of religious persons. I find it interesting you ignored this comment.

On the contrary it suggests that you more inclined to disagree and become easily offended because your beliefs restrict logical reasoning.

You can continue to try and spin what I type however you may please, but for the record I have no issues with Christians or any other religion I do not discriminate nor do I assume that their beliefs determine their intelligence or mental capacity.

That would be believe my friend not belief. You should really learn basic spelling before calling others stupid :smile:

Well the teachings of the bible were pretty much what the apostles and Jesus said. You also said early church which was a some what secretive following due to fear of persecution by the Romans.

Just now saw it thanks for showing it to me :smile:

I’m not really offended when people speak about the church in a negative. I do get offended when you say Christians are weak minded for following the early church. Because that to me sounds like you’re calling Christians today weak minded because we also follow the church.

You may not have meant anything by it. But it sure sounded like you did and thats the last thing ill say about this.

Skunk ape photo taken in Florida

The thing is I never said or suggested it.

The direct context was people in the early formation of the church used the doctrine to control people who did not know better.

This of course changed and became less prevalent as people were given direct access to the teachings instead of hearing via sermons (which did not always teach the true word of God but a filtered version to suite their agenda).

I feel like you only got this perception because you have a belief that I am somehow anti christian. which has been brought up before.

Surly you can understand why i think that? You did say that that had the Christians not burned down the great library we might be farther ahead. But you failed to mention the Romans or the Muslims who burned it as well. You’ve also defend Islam quite strongly before and generally people who defend Islam are very anti Christian. Also you have criticized Christianity quite frequently in many threads.
But you’ve said you enjoy playing devils advocate.
I have no problem if you are anti Christian. I firmly believe in freedom of expression and freedom of religion or lack of. I do not have an issue with atheists either. The majority of my friends are atheists.

I apologize if i formed the wrong opinion.

Let me ask an important question though. Do you believe in bigfoot?

Yeah I have tendency to forget that the Christians weren’t the only ones who burned Alexandria.

Always.

Apology accepted. though not necessary because it doesn’t offend me.

I actually don’t identify as an atheist, the closest definition to my belief system would be Hermeticism. Overall I prefer not to label myself or align my beliefs with any set ideology.

Yes. do I think such a creature still actively roams the earth distinct possibility but noone as come up with any legitimate evidence.

You have to understand I believe that unicorns very well could have existed they just aren’t around any more.

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What about Skin walkers? I would assume you’ve heard of them?

Elaborate not familiar with the term, sounds along the lines of shifters or possessive entities?

Not talking about a turban .

Talking about that , That’s not religious dress either .

I feel religious people are just scared of the unknown of life and the idea of just dying so they get comfort in this bullshit idea that some man in the sky is going too look after them through their journey .

religous people seem to as a whole spend their entire life preparing to die (to go to heaven ) so much so that they forget to just live and enjoy themselves

They must have stopped trying to make their shit believable now .

No question russian SF are in Ukraine but these "captured " are anything but .

No way on earth would they just give up their entire unit make up and mission so easily and the info he gives up is laughable .

14 man recon unit ! Get real they operate in teams of 4-6 max . Ukraineain government spouts so much bullocks it’s unreal . Should at least get their basic facts right :slight_smile: