alot of people own shotguns and such so the sound of gun shots isnt uncommon
exactly like they’re here so waisitng there time on the sound of a possible gun shot is stupid . at most put a helicopter up to have a look with a number of officers close by .
You are telling me that a sound of a shotgun is a commonplace in London? Come on mate 
Well the difference here is that every cop is armed and every cop car has an SBR, so while few RRUs move to one spot, there will be still armed officers elsewhere. And this is exactly their job, to get where they might be needed like flies on shit and do their job there while there is no need to call off the normal cops from their stints in their parts of the town.
Wouldn’t it cost a lot of tax payer money as well?
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yes , see your image of london is tower bridge , true post card london . im talking about where people actually live . actual london . where i can drive one direction and be in the heart of london in 20 minutes or go the opposite way and be in the middle of a forest , farms and fields where gun shots are very very common
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Well the difference here is that every cop is armed and every cop car has an SBR, so while few RRUs move to one spot, there will be still armed officers elsewhere. And this is exactly their job, to get where they might be needed like flies on shit and do their job there while there is no need to call off the normal cops from their stints in their parts of the town.
[/quote] then why waist the rapid response units on the sound of a single gun shot when a normal patrol unit is more than capable of investigating and dealing with the incident
What kind of shotgun are they using to where you can hear it from over 20 miles away?
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i dont live in central london . where i live there are plenty of fields , farms and forests . from my particular house i dont hear many (a couple a month ) but if i was to drive about 2 miles on a weekend i would hear plenty of gun shots all day and all night
20ish minutes (about 15 miles ) was in reference to how far i am from what you image london as , aka big ben etc you dont live there unless you are willing to pay millions for a house
if you was to look at london on google maps on the outskirts but within the M25 (big motorway that circles london ) you will see what i mean , its a lot more fields and greener than you think
The highest expense is their wages. RRU are driving around in their cars anyways and riot cops are either sitting on their asses at station or checking underage drinkers at pubs in the evening. No extra hands were called from home, so no, it does not really cost extra tax payer money.
OK, we have about 40.000 legally armed people in the town of which about 30.000 may legally carry and I’d say that 10.000 - 15.000 do so on any given day, but shots being fired is really not something we are used to in Prague.
Because should the normal patrol unit find out that it was a shot fired during an ongoing criminal incident they might find themselves in a shootout just because the crook may decide to try his chances against two cops, even if they have SBR and body armor. Most crooks won’t try their chances when they see that the whole park is full of cops. And while the RRUs and riot cops are in the park the normal patrol can be on their way dealing with the usual locals calling them on drunk foreign tourists or drunk foreign tourists calling them because their wallet was stolen.
here its mainly people just shooting birds etc on the weekends so to hear it is pretty common depending on exactly where you are .
the county i live in is essex . which has one of the highest amount of guns in the country currently around 65,000 firearms registered.
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Because should the normal patrol unit find out that it was a shot fired during an ongoing criminal incident they might find themselves in a shootout just because the crook may decide to try his chances against two cops, even if they have SBR and body armor. Most crooks won’t try their chances when they see that the whole park is full of cops. And while the RRUs and riot cops are in the park the normal patrol can be on their way dealing with the usual locals calling them on drunk foreign tourists or drunk foreign tourists calling them because their wallet was stolen.
[/quote] engage and call for help ? all our police have emergency buttons on their radios that send a distress call out and if pressed the entire area would be swarmed with a few minutes as every officer basically drops everything and goes to their assistance
The whole article is poorly researched . No where have the police said don’t harm the attacker .
In the UK it’s illegal to carry a weapon for self defence . And if you ask around the vast majority of the population agree with that law .
You’re as I’ve said about 20 thousand times allowed to defend yourself to what ever degree you feel is needed including killing the attacker .
If he is on top of you and you grab a rock and smash him over the head and he dies . That’s self defence .
If he is running away and you chase after him
Then curb stump him that’s not self defence simples .
End of
You say that about every article that portrays the U.K in a negative way.
Which is complete and total insanity. You’re seriously okay with a girly being raped because she couldn’t carry a weapon? Or and old person who’s robbed or killed because they can’t carry?
So you’re allowed to kill or wound your attacker but denied the means to do so?
It is read it . Misleading title and fails to research UK law and commenting correctly on the law .
The police website which I’ve never heard of answered a question on what you could carry weapon wise for self
Defence and the answer is nothing other than a rape alarm .
But no where did they say your not allowed to harm
Your attacker
When did I say I agreed with it ? I said the majority of people here agree with it
You can use whatever means available to you including a gun
WTF is so great about Windows 10?
The site is so concerned with the well-being of violent criminals, that
in the context of dye sprays, it states,“be aware that even a seemingly
safe product, deliberately aimed and sprayed in someone’s eyes, would
become an offensive weapon because it would be used in a way that was
intended to cause injury.
I think this is quite self explaining.
If you are a woman attacked by a male, which in 98% of cases means disproportionality of force on a level that you can’t physically do anything that would make it possibly for you to defend yourself, and you prohibit such a woman from being armed, moreover you tell her “do not spray him in the eyes, that would be offensive”, then yes, it is telling tha woman she can’t hurt the attacker. If you don’t have the means you don’t have a way.
No, you have said that in Britain “proportionate force” may be used. That is very different from “whatever degree you feel is needed”.
We had a case couple of years ago where a girl was about to be raped in a park and she simply stabbed the fucker in the chest, right in the heard, instantly killing him. Case closed in a couple of weeks, no arrest, no charges, no problem.
What would that be in UK? Getting raped and then 10 years imprisonment on top of it for stabbing the attacker?
Fuck mate, you have shotgun blasts in parks all night and rocks readily available everywhere. What a country!!!
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No idea, happy Linux user here.
Then somethings seriously wrong with 90% of your population.
You miss understand the law . The law is not agaisnt self defence in particular . The law states that you cannot carry an object with the sole purpose to cause harm . This indirectly out laws carrying an item for use in self defence .
If however you was say traveling to a range with your rifle and you was attacked you would legally be allowed to use the rifle to kill if needed the attacker .
" Reasonable force " is the wording used . It’s up to you to decide what force is reasonable to the situation . You are not in any circumstances required to retreat in any form .
Our self defence laws are no different from yours apart from the fact that you are able to carry a object for the sole purpose of self defence where as we can’t we simply have to use what is at hand at that present moment
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Fuck mate, you have shotgun blasts in parks all night and rocks readily available everywhere. What a country
[/quote] was simply an example
This is where I would agree with you . I personally think we should be allowed to carry a non lethal self defence weapon such a pepper spray or taser .
But like CC is a life style choice for you so should self defence be here so if you’re afraid of being attacked then go to classes and learn to fight so that when the time comes your in a much more confident position to fight off the attacker