The Apache is very loud and there is no mistaking it . The Taliban run like hell the moment you hear it humming in the distance .
They can pick them off from miles away but generally they don’t . They will do a pass first then fly off again which is when the rounds start coming in .
the sound of these aircraft is a weapon in its self
I have to agree with you there. Our idiot president was trying to retire them and replace them with the lock head martin 35. All the pilots who tested it hated it and to make matters worse the damn Chinese stole the design and improved on it. So luckily we’re keeping the A-10.
Indeed i live very close to a national guard repair base so Apaches along with other choppers are flying over my house. It gets pretty fucking annoying.
tell me about it , we are buying a load of F-35’s off you (they were a joint project between US , UK ) and im yet to hear anything positive about them . why we ever go rid of the harrier i dont know . and why we have not put a catapult system on our carriers is beyond me . a lot of money being spent for an OK plane . . we would of been better off developing our own next gen jets specially for the carriers
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Indeed i live very close to a national guard repair base so Apaches along with other choppers are flying over my house. It gets pretty fucking annoying.
[/quote] ive had alot flying around my area since we pulled most out of Afghanistan . which i never got before we pulled out , they clearly dont know what to do with the extra kit now back on the mainland 
Yeah its supposed to be a terrible plane. The Chinese aren’t even using the version they stole and improved, they’re selling it to other countries, that shows you how bad it is. 
They’re giving it to the Iraq army who in turn pretty much gives the equipment to fucking ISIS 
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wouldnt fucking surprise me
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Yeah its supposed to be a terrible plane. The Chinese aren’t even using the version they stole and improved, they’re selling it to other countries, that shows you how bad it is.
[/quote] just a heap of shit so NATO can say “NEXT GEN PLANE !” which isnt good when you look how far Russian and Chinese kit is coming along
so thats like £1 for me
Well we don’t really need new planes. Most of our equipment is a 30-20 year old design like our tanks and planes but they still are better than what Russia and China has for the most part.
One of the top Chinese generals even said they’re military is decades behind the U.S. Plus Chinas army has horrible health issues and leadership problems due it still being under control of the communist party.
The last major Chinese conflict was a complete and total failure. They lost conventionally to the fucking Vietnamese. At least when the U.S was in Nam we never lost a battle. Hell the Viet Cong was even broken after the Tet offensive.
Still China could do some major damage to us in the Pacific it they surprised us but luckily Japan and South Korea are heavily building up their militarys response to Chinas aggression. We’ve been fucking baby sitting them for far too long.
Yes i read an article about Russia trying to build an aircraft carrier but they its just too damn expensive.
yes indeed , china is the worry their . they are starting to get serious and build a proper blue water navy , if i remember correctly . they’re are believed to be planning 2 90,000 tone carriers and 2 60/70,000 carriers , so they do mean business .
on the other hand russia is planning some very serious next gen kit and their planes will definitely prove to be more than a match for NATO some are saying they’re actually better in a lot of areas .
as for their ground kit they have done something extremely clever , in that all their , tanks , APC’S ,IFV , Mobile artillery will share the same hull and alot of other parts , making maintenance and the overall logistic challenge alot easier and cheaper .
right now yes both are far behind NATO but by 2030 the situation will be alot different if europe doesnt up its game . and even the US for that matter
China could i afford it but i don’t think Russia could. But as of right now China has one air craft carrier that can’t even be used in combat.
I doubt they will be better. U.S generals have even said they have a bunch of stuff they’re saving for the Russians or the Chinese. They still have to catch up with us which they haven’t still in many areas. In addition to that we have the most combat tested experienced military in the world right now. If we ever got into a large conventional war with Russia or China we would have another edge in that aspect. We’ll probably see a big arms race with each side upgrading to match the other.
That’s still 15 years from now. The U.S is fine where its at military wise. By 2030 we’ll probably have all new equipment. As for Europe shafting their military well this has caused a huge drop in support for supporting NATO and other European countries military wise.
By 2030 don’t be surprised if the U.S has returned to its isolationism as it was intended to be. Our allies in the Pacific are building up their militarys though which is good because it takes the burden off the U.S a bit.
yes i agree i cant see russia being a navel issue for a long time but their ground troops will be an issue . in the future .
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They still have to catch up with us which they haven’t still in many areas.
[/quote] agreed but the gap i closing fast . which is why NATO needs to wake up fast
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We’ll probably see a big arms race with each side upgrading to match the other.
[/quote]id argue its already begun .
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In addition to that we have the most combat tested experienced military in the world right now.
[/quote] id say the UK or france hold that title been in every war par vietnarm you have been in plus our own wars . e.g mali , Falklands etc
and Britain is the most experienced military ever ohh boy has my nation forgot who we are .
Yeah but Russian troops are also conscripts and there is a problem with them not having access to good equipment like NATO troops do. Like holo sights and stuff like that.
You may disagree but i think the U.S fully aware of the situation. We haven’t been the ones gutting our military
Yeah i’ll agree with that.
I mean’t of the last 50 years or so. No country as been to war more than us in that time. So i would say as of this moment we have the most combat tested and experienced military.
I think we’ve been in over 50 wars maybe more.
A practical lesson in freedom of expression: on nazi demonstration in Bratislava this weekend, Slovak nazis passed the EU flag to Czech nazis in order to destroy it, “because it is not a crime in the Czech Republic.” 
It always amuses me that I can burn a Czech flag in front of the Prague castle with no issues while I would go to jail if I’d burn a Czech flag in Germany. Apparently in Slovakia too.
Fun fact: when the nazis could not find any immigrants to deliver a beatdown upon, they started attacking spectators of a bicycle championship. Good for Nazis that Slovakia is not a shall issue concealed carry country I guess.
at the moment . research the "ratnik 2 " programn
its already developing
there will also be some gadgets added to that but that is the base of your future russian soldier .
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/upload/iblock/825/Ratnik-russia-army.jpg
at the moment this new russian kit surpasses any known NATO kit . with 90% of the body being protected and the chest plate on this new kit can take 9 yes fucking 9 7.62 rounds at the moment standard NATO kit can take about 2 i believe . the americans do have something similar in the pipe line in terms of the gadgets with the little screen coming down over the eye .
the russians also have a system which i very much like the sound of which gives the squad leader like a tablet screen which displays the location of all his men .
the base of this kit we saw in crimea which was by the sounds of it the test for the kit as not long after it was given the green light and all paper work signed . and all russian troops to be equipped with it by mid to late 2020’s with all the gadgets etc at the moment i believe only their spetznaz are receiving it before then as would be standard with any military . they always get the cool stuff first .
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You may disagree but i think the U.S fully aware of the situation. We haven’t been the ones gutting our military
[/quote] touche
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I mean’t of the last 50 years or so. No country as been to war more than us in that time. So i would say as of this moment we have the most combat tested and experienced military.
I think we’ve been in over 50 wars maybe more.
[/quote] nope that goes to us Britain has been in constant war since WW2 i believe only 4 of those .
in the last 50 years name a war which we wasnt by your side we always have your back homie
good article comparing our up to date kit .
so yes they have some way before they can match us completely tech wise but the gap is certainly closing . another reason i think for the sanctions being put on russia which i think putin knows as they’re pressing ahead regardless .
so china seems to be going for the navel approach and russia going for you ground force approach . NATO should be able to say ahead in all area’s if we take what russia and china are doing seriously .
if we carry on with the attitude that russia and china have crap and poor armed forces we are going to get a nasty shock come 2030 ish certainly in europe
I think USA have world most strongest army, and thats why:
http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/milex/milex-graphs-for-data-launch-2015/The%20share%20of%20world%20military%20expenditure%20of%20the%2015%20states%20with%20the%20highest%20expenditure%20in%202014.png
the US spends far to much i think they could cut their budget massively and not effect their military capability’s .
i would love to see just how much of their budget goes on bureaucracy and admin crap and what they actually spend on core military kit and upkeep . sure still be way way way more than anyone else but be shocking to see how much they waste on wankers in suits
also that photo is slightly out of date as we spend more than france does by 10 billions
When the Czech Army just casually sent 5.000 thermobaric RPG 75s to the Kurds, I wondered how many RPGs our army may have in stock considering that we have just 16.000 active soldiers.
Today the police confiscated 50.000 (fifty thousand) RPGs from the manufacturer’s warehouse saying that the storage did not conform with the explosives safety laws. So I don’t know how many RPGs we do currently have, but I’d say now we have a good few more
That puts into perspective the Czech soldiers’ stories from Afghanistan about “RPGing the shit out of anyone who shoots at them”.
Its date from 2014, and Sipri is most trustable public source if you want to compare worldwide military expediture. Comparing military data is not always easy, you know…
