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generally the same with most armies to be honest total over kill on everything because hey missiles are fun :slight_smile:
the Taliban seem to love them as well :slight_smile: couldnt hit a barn door from 10 yards though :slight_smile:

just had another little look online and it does appear to be wrong :slight_smile: UK spends a total of £38 billion a year (about $60 billion )
france spends 32 billion EUROS which is about right for them spending about 10 billion dollars less a year :slight_smile:

i normally use globalfirepower.com , generally they’re bang on although slightly off with the size of the british army although thats being cut so fast i dont think anyone knows for sure how small or big it is

Sorry dude, I still trust in Sipri:

[quote=“Sipri.org”]
SIPRI is an independent international institute dedicated to research into conflict, armaments, arms control and disarmament […] to policymakers, researchers, media and the interested public. [/quote]

Its scientific data while globalfirepower says:

[quote=“globalfirepower.com”]
this website is for entertainment value[/quote]

i can beat you :slight_smile:

that is the actual UK ministry of defence publication on its spending and over all situation report for the year 2012/2013

In 2012/13, Defence Spending totalled £34.3 billion with the main area
of Resource expenditure being personnel (£11.9 billion) and the main
area of Capital expenditure being Single Use Military Equipment (£4.8
billion).

so with inflation etc 2013/2014 would be around £36 billion :slight_smile:

and the french budget for 2015 is €31.4bn, with €2.4bn of that to be found from ‘exceptional receipts’

thats a quote from the french prime minster :slight_smile:

so when you convert

france spends
£22 billion
uk spends
between £38 to £34 billion :slight_smile:

according to our defence minster

our budget for 2015 is £34bn

i knew we spent more than france any way as we are the only nation in europe who currently meets the 2% of GDP requirement of NATO :slight_smile:

France - 2.0
Estonia - 2.0
Germany - 1.9
Greece - 2.3
Poland - 1.8
Turkey - 1.8

These are 2013 figures and all listed are most likely above 2 now (I know Poland is, Czech Republic will be within a couple of years from 2013’s 1.1).

both of us our wrong me more so :slight_smile: just had a check only 4 nations meet the 2%

estonia

greece

USA

UK

(chart about half way down the article )
but a total of 7 have pledged to meet it in the next few years .

we are expected to drop below it although we dont know until the government decide their budget for next year in September

jesus christ just came across this fact

In 1814 British defence expenditure accounted for 21.8% of GDP

I prefer primary sources. http://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_topics/20140224_140224-PR2014-028-Defence-exp.pdf

Especially after BBC reported on how illegal guns are sold on every corner in Prague (but the reporter never bought any in order “not to break the law”).

Especially after BBC reported on how children may be easily purchased in the Czech Republic (but the reporter never bought any in order “not to break the law”).

Especially after National Geographic reported on how Prague is the crime den of Europe… in a documentary … that was using all actors and staged scenes.

and your source backs up what i said you read the wrong table :slight_smile:

column on the far right being the most up to date

cant even find where you got your numbers from on your source

ahhh i see what you done , :slight_smile: you’re eyes got confused

looking at the right table just getting your column muddled :slight_smile: highlight from the start and go across

estonia 2.0%
france 1.9%
germany 1.3%
greece 2.3%

:slight_smile:

uk down the bottom on 2.4%
US 4.4%

Conflicts the U.S has been in since 1945 the total being 248.

Britians conflicts since 1945. It dosn’t even begin to compare to the amount of conflicts the U.S has been in. So ill stick with my statement we have the most combat tested experience military in the world right now.

Yes the U.S is developing something similar but we’ll actually be able to afford it unlike Russia :smile:

I think you’ll find the majority of the U.S conflicts Britain wasn’t involved with. The large wars yes except Vietnam which really pissed of America.

I won’t take back my statement about China’s military. Like i said one of their generals even said they’re decades behind the U.S. They’re military is large but very poorly trained and the military is has huge corruption problems. They’re constantly changing generals.

I would think most of it goes to baby sitting countries like Japan and Germany. We also have an obscene number of bases all around the world including one in the U.K.

@TheDivineInfidel

Have you surrendered your kitchen knives already?

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Yes just handing them over now :slight_smile:

They have already paid for it .

Their defence budget is still going up regardless of the sanctions . He would rather his people starved :slight_smile:

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4214, topic:21032”]
I won’t take back my statement about China’s military. Like i said one of their generals even said they’re decades behind the U.S. They’re military is large but very poorly trained and the military is has huge corruption problems. They’re constantly changing generals.
[/quote] yes , at their current position but their president , supreme being what ever they fucking call him is cleansing alot of the corruption in the country as a whole . so they are on the road .

its only their military thats stopping them from really challenging you for that super power spot .

personally i think they will kick off once they complete their modernisation and that will be the do or die for china .

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4214, topic:21032”]
The large wars yes except Vietnam which really pissed of America.
[/quote] we did send a very small number of SF :slight_smile: but i mean like a single unit .

@SirWarriant @snejdarek @McWonderBeast @Daniel_Boon

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Which leads to another problem. Russia’s population is supposed to decline by around 50 million in by 2050. Mean while Americas population is supposed to increase by that number.

China’s days are numbered. There population is also supposed to start declining by 2050. And also by that time its predicted they will run out of fresh drinking water because they have so much fucking pollution.
Their military is also riddled with health problems.
Don’t be too surprised if China either collapses or faces another revolution.

Yeah i wouldn’t really consider that much support. People often forget how much Australia and South Korea were apart of that war as well. South Korea was actually responsible for the most war crimes during the war.

Is it your birthday? Well if it is happy birthday ill send you some tea :wink:

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and if we stay in the EU our population will rise by like 300 million :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4219, topic:21032”]
China’s days are numbered. There population is also supposed to start declining by 2050. And also by that time its predicted they will run out of fresh drinking water because they have so much fucking pollution. Their military is also riddled with health problems. Don’t be too surprised if China either collapses or faces another revolution.
[/quote] i dont see them having a revolution but yes your other points to hold ground