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That’s China for you. China is so fucked up, that’s why i laugh so hard when people say its going to be the next super power.

Worse stuff happened in 19th century Britain yet we were the most powerful and riches country on the face of the planet .

Money and guns talk not the social situations of the lowest in a nations society .

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Ohh right so @ProkyBrambora is getting tobi’s man stick but @snejdarek isn’t so he is jealous .

It’s all coming together now .

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No lol worse stuff did not happen in 19th century Britain. China has next to no fresh water, their rivers mostly are red, smog over there blankets cities like fog does in other countries.

Their military is riddled with health issues, not to mention corruption issues, as the military is under direct command of the communist party.

Chinas head of defence was the one who said they would use fishing boats against American destroyers. Another funny thing Chinas equipment, tanks, uniforms are too small for them now, because they were made during the huge famines.

Overpopulation is 10 times worse for them, they’re supposed to have huge population declines within 50 years.

No there is no way in hell China is becoming the next super power.

At this current state China would not be able to take over Japan. Especially with Japan’s recent military build up. And the U.S backing them. The only thing China has is the numbers, not to mention they haven’t fought war since their invasion of Vietnam in the 70s which they lost CONVENTIONALLY. IT wasn’t public support or guerrillas that beat them it was the main Vietnamese army.

I’m afraid you have been sucked in to so much us propaganda it’s untrue .
For example the uniforms being to small actually made me laugh . That you actually believe that shit

I’m still on holiday till Sunday so I’m not getting drawn into a big debate .

A lot worse did happen in 19th century britian such as 6 year olds being sent to fix machinery in mills which would often result in. The child being mashed up into little bits .
Kids starving in the streets etc , mass pollution . The river Thames for example used to be filled with human shit and piss . Which young kids used to also wash In .

Human waste was also chucked into the streets and onto people if they stood in the wrong place at the wrong time .

I could go on , I doubt you have ever studied britian on a social level

Lol no its not propaganda. Do you watch the Chinese state run media or something? Everything negitive i bring up about China or Russia, you call propaganda. China is a shit hole deal with it. The head of defence even said the smog is so thick it protects China from laser guided missiles from the U.S.

He’s the same head of defence who said Iraq would never be defeated, the same head of defence who said Gaddfii would never be found, 3 hours before he was executed by rebels.

Why is that hard to believe? Their equipment is from a time when millions were fucking dying of starvation. You seem to worship Russia and China and refuse to accept anything negative about them.

So pretty China today?

I’m sure this is all evil western propaganda.

They actually have smog days there where kids don’t have to go to school, kinda like the U.S has snow days. :laughing:

If anyones believe bullshit propoganda its you my friend. Spouting nonsense about how Chinas going to be the next super power, and how they will bring the U.S to its knees with their super missile which has never been tested or even fucking built :smiley:

They will be out of fresh water by 2030 unless of course the fools running the place are overthrown which wouldn’t be too unrealistic.

From now on @TheDivineInfidel i’m just going to call all negative things said about the U.S, bullshit European propaganda, okay? :smile:

Briefly i learned a lot about the Cholera out breaks in the late 1800s in London. 18th century Europe isn’t taught much in schools here, unless we’re talking about the French revolution and the Napoleonic wars.

No I just have an open mind to information . Do you watch US media ?

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4790, topic:21032”]
China is a shit hole deal with it
[/quote]not denying it isn’t but the country is still very rich . Second richest I think. Many parts of the USA are complete shit holes

The very fact you think China has the same kit it did in 1961 shows your level of understanding

Don’t dodge my question. No i do not watch U.S media, i don’t even have cable TV atm. China uncensored is a good channel, it mainly covers the issues in China today.

The U.S still has a bunch of shit from the 70s, hell we were using aircraft carriers made in the 40s in desert storm.

Just do some research for yourself if you doubt my claims. The Chinese government has said their tanks are too cramped for the soldiers now a days, whether this is from the people eating better, or the obesity problems in their military, i don’t know. But i know i’m not wrong about that.

Yes the U.S is super rich too. Doesn’t mean we don’t suffer from issues.

I wouldn’t go with many. , Ive travelled a fair amount around the country and most places ive been have not been complete shit holes. How ever i have yet to see a river running red in the U.S or smog so thick you can’t see 10 feet in front of you.

The dumpiest place ive ever seen is LA. But even there the smog isn’t as bad as China. In fact i just recently got back from California which is notorious for its smog, but it still wasn’t as bad as China.

I’m sure there are plenty of nice places in China too but as a hole i would say the U.S is a lot nicer, based on research.

But I’m confused as to why we’re bringing up the issues of the U.S? We’re talking about China. Notice how I’m not saying “propaganda” when you bring up issues with the U.S?

A lot of it is yes .

And if you actually read what I put .i make no mistake a lot of China is very poor and very deprived but the country is still very rich the wealth just hasn’t be shared out as much as it has in the USA much like 19th century britian . Where the government was very rich yet it’s peopled struggled for a single slice of bread .

Another issue I take you up on is the miltary , because you spout bollocks . China’s miltary is not North koreas it’s a proper modern fighting force . What it lacks is a proper navy . (In the process of developing ).

Your image of China’s army is this
In reality

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4792, topic:21032”]
Yes the U.S is super rich too. Doesn’t mean we don’t suffer from issues.
[/quote] my point exactly same case as China of course China has a much higher level though

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4792, topic:21032”]
The Chinese government has said their tanks are too cramped for the soldiers now a days, whether this is from the people eating better, or the obesity problems in their military, i don’t know. But i know i’m not wrong about that.
[/quote] China’s tanks are mostly brand new . Thy don’t drive t-34’s you know ?

Again your view of China

Reality

[quote=“SirWarriant, post:4792, topic:21032”]
Don’t dodge my question.
[/quote] what question would that be ? I answered I don’t watch chineese media . 1. Doesn’t interest me mostly propaganda 2.dont speak ting tong 3. Wouldn’t be able to watch it in the UK .

You see I respect China and Russia so if I ever had to fight them I would do so with the respect they deserve . You have no respect just hate . And that’s a one way ticket to defeat .

respect is the key to every success be it war or business or life In general

Now if you don’t mind I’m going to the bar then to bed to have coitus with ones female partner

Oh shut up. You literally say everything negative about China and Russia is propaganda. But then you’ll happily slam the U.S saying its all facts.

Nope Chinas millitary is absolute ass. Health problems, corruption problems, lack of funding, Where in gods name are you getting this information? The Chinese state run media?

Their pilots get a pathetic amount of a flight time per month (far less than Japanese pilots).

As for those pictures are you trying to deny that top picture are Chinese troops?

As for the bottom picture, i see the little Chinese symbol up in the corner, if that was made by Chinese state then count as “bullshit propaganda”. In reality most of their military is equipped with the top picture uniforms.

Nope most of their tanks are old. They are of course getting new ones, but the majority of their equipment is older. I’m going to ask again for your source.

I want your sources.

I don’t hardly hate either country, just because i point out their crippling issues doesn’t mean i hate them. You hold both countries high up on a pedestal. I’ve already said several times China could cause us huge trouble in the South China sea.

Check out this channel. He even gets a lot of his information from the Chinese media about their military.

Oh by the way China doesn’t have join command for their military.

@TheDivineInfidel I am so very disappointed in you.

Disappointed because i proved him wrong, or disappointed because he didn’t argue that point?

Anyway its getting so pointless arguing about this with him. He never cites his sources when he goes on about how great Russia and China are. And when i try to prove him wrong and bring up their many issues he just calls it “propaganda” @snejdarek will back me up this.

that he didn’t exploit your slip up.

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Not hardly a slip up. The M1 Abram’s was designed in the 70s and a lot of them are over 20 years old. A lot of our planes are around that age as well, that goes to show they’re a very good design.

Also as for the aircraft carrier . I did a tour of the U.SS Midway when i was in San Diego. It was constructed in 1945 and used through Desert storm. A carriers life spawn is around 50 or so years, which i was told by 30 year navy veterans.

We do have new versions of the Abrams the M2 how ever they’re so fucking expensive we only have a small number. Just like China only has a small number of their best tank. Next he’s going to be saying Russia has thousands of Armada tanks :laughing:

Our equipment is so expensive that we really do re use a lot of it.

Yes but your wording was off. it suggests they were made in the 40s for Desert storm.

You forgot the whole “and used through” part. I am disappointed that he didn’t utilize this opportunity to demoralize and discredit you.

I thought this was the troll cave. Not the glitter unicorns, rainbows, and ponies society #G.U.R.P.S.

Go fuck yourself, i typed a big long thing on why you were wrong, and it turns you were just nit picking my grammar :smile:

#G.U.R.P.SSAYSWHAT?

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So I think from now on you all should troll people by adding a #G.U.R.P.S to your posts.

its passive aggressive and they can’t take offense to something they don’t understand…Oh shit that’s right that’s why they are offended im stupid sorry guys stop reading now anything posted from this point on is useless filler that really serves no purpose other then entertaining myself thoroughly because you know there are no better inside jokes then the ones that are so deep inside your the only one that knows them so when you giggle to yourself only you know that your not really crazy but a comical genius that no one really understand because they have no real understand of their purpose in this life, oh yeah don’t hassle the Hoff.

@TheDivineInfidel @SirWarriant @snejdarek @Daniel_Boon

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