@snejdarek it turns out i made a good call in waiting for more information on the black Texas women who was arrested. Turns out she actually killed her self in jail, she had tried to kill her self a year prior due to a miscarriage, and suffered from depression. So there’s one fact CNN got wrong, can’t wait for it to surface that she assaulted the cop 
And since CNN already claimed she was killed in police custody, its logical to assume they got plenty of other facts wrong 
When did this assault supposedly occur? Have you watched the dash cam footage?
The cop was a prick and out of line.
Maybe when he was leaning in the car lol? He’s allowed to ask her to get out of the car, and when she refused and he leaned in the car she could have very well hit him.
Was this arrest really valid? No i don’t think so, that is of course unless she assaulted him. But i don’t hardly think it was a racially motivated arrest. The only reason this story is caught attention is because she’s black.
Just be careful with stories like this early on. What really went down doesn’t often surface till later.
She has a legal right to refuse. He was only writing her a ticket not detaining her.
I don’t think so (not impossible though) he kept accelerating that situation (classic police bullying) had she actually hit him (in the car) he would have dragged her ass out immediately and slammed her to the ground or tased her within the vehicle.
That and dead.
I watched the longest dash cam video I could find (close to 20 mins).
To me it looked like a classic case of police bullying and false charges. I haven’t seen sources that say when she supposedly “assaulted him”.
If she did assault him it must have been after she walked out of dash cam view (worth noting the officer didn’t force her out of camera sight like many do “when the are assaulted”) but I would not be shocked to find out the supposed assault was do to him trying to subdue her (people react out of pain its hard not resist).
Heed your own advice there. I have not proclaimed an opinion one way or another on the matter (other then the officer being a prick and out of line).
She very well could have killed herself, just as well as she could have been murdered. In any case the real question is why are the pushing the race issue so much? what do they not want us paying attention to?
Seems any more that all media has turned into failed screen plays for shitty 80’s movies.
No, watch the video when they’re interviewing the ex DEA agent. Cops are allowed to ask you to get out of the car if they pull you over, even if its a ticket.
Maybe, although you can’t say that for sure.
Haha no. Where are the cameras when whites are wrongfully arrested? Where are they when whites are shot dead by cops? Why doesn’t Obama make statements for them? Why aren’t there mass protests or mass looting?
More whites are killed by police every year than blacks are. Do you remember when that white homeless man was beat to death by six cops? Where were the mass protests or presidential statements then?
Or the 11th month old baby who was shot by some fucking blacks a few months before Trayvon Martin was killed? Where the fuck were the cameras then???
I haven’t either, but while he was leaning inside the car she very well could have. Remember all the news channels were reporting Micheal brown was murdered which couldn’t be farther from the truth.
I haven’t really either. I’m usually very split on stories like these. On one hand i know cops act like this a lot in the U.S. On the other hand i know a cop is risking his career and life every time he has to arrest a black person, or shoot them in self defense.
Keep in mind there are plenty of good cops out there, more than bad ones. But the media has an anti cop/ anti white agenda right now.
Gun grab most likely. I found it convenient that Obama pushed a bill to take fire arms away from social security recipients it met resistance, and a few days later a 58 year old white man shoots a place up.
I don’t really believe in coincidences like that do you?
I was on to one about the uniforms being too small because they were all made in the time of the famine …1961… But due to me laughing to hard by the time I came back round he had edited the post
And you have yet to provide any reasonable counter argument or source. You provide a few pictures of China showing off their top stuff, they have good tanks yes but very very few of them. Just like we have very few of the m1a2s.
Um i never edited the post.
I would love to show you sources by I’m currently on a sun bed in crotia … Besides most of it is simple common knowledge . That China doesn’t use the same kit it did in 1961 . Just type into fucking Google images the chineese army in 1960’s and the one in the 21st century and that’s tour first " fact"blown out the water .
God forbid you ever get sent to fight them . You would most likely charge in with a hand gun because you think they have nothing but sticks , then Get mowed down by .50 cal .
And i’m sitting on a bed in the U.S…
Already linked the China uncensored channel.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0c1d526c-9890-11e3-8503-00144feab7de.html#axzz3gswhcY87
I don’t believe i said they did although it wouldn’t surprise me the U.S still has plenty of vehicles from the 70s. Due to the Chinese population have more access to health care and food than they did 20 years ago they’re literally growing out of their tanks. The study was done by the PLA so fuck off with your propaganda claims.
Hahha. That clumsy attempt at an insult gave me a good chuckle so thanks for that. I never said they had sticks, i just said your claims about them being able to kick the shit out of America were bullshit.
You seemed to have missed the part about me saying they could cause us serious fucking damage in the South China sea.
Nice to sources one from Bloomberg a major U.S. news source
And one from the Washington post .
Clap clap fucking clap . Try some non us sources
They got their information from the PLA. Why would they make up something like that? If it was propaganda they would make China seem like much more of a threat than it really is, like they did with Iraq.
So what makes those sources trust worthy to you in our other arguments? I’m beginning to think you’re trolling.
Like China state run media?
I guess the Chinese are lying about their tanks being too small. You have so much inside knowledge about other countries, are you a spy?
What is their MBT ? Do you know it ? Name it . Then the year it came into service .
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Hahha. That clumsy attempt at an insult gave me a good chuckle so thanks for that. I never said they had sticks, i just said your claims about them being able to kick the shit out of America were bullshit.
[/quote] don’t believe I ever said that . They would certainly bloody your nose and not be rolled over in a day like you think .
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You seemed to have missed the part about me saying they could cause us serious fucking damage in the South China sea.
[/quote]. So you agree with me this entire fucking time as that’s all I’ve ever claimed . Never claimed they could invade the fucking world .
So let’s get this straight the PLA being the chineese army , handed over to AMERICAN news publishers major inside problems to do with the Chinese army .
Let’s put that into prospective . That would be the same as a U.S. official handing over information to Chinese media . Could you fucking imagine the shit storm
2014 brand fucking new. They have very few of them, but they are very good better than the m1a1 and probably on par with the m1a2 and Russia s new Armada tank.
How ever most of their tanks are an older design like the m1 Abrams. These new generations of tanks are extremely fucking expensive.
You said if they sank our carrier with their imaginary weapon of destruction, we would bitch out and fucking surrender,]. If they sank one of our carriers, all it would do is give us a reason to go to war with them, and the American public would be behind it.
The PLA is a bunch of fucking old idiotic commies. They do and say stupid shit all the time, like the head of defense. Sending fishing boats armed with explosives after U.S destroyers lol. Or his predictions, like Baghdad never falling to coalition forces hours before it did.
The links talk about he problems with the U.S military like obesity in the army so yes they did pretty much hand over that information.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-02/19/content_17290515.htm
Heres even a fucking Chinese source saying the same thing. What more fucking proof do you need, good god man.
Wrong . Their current MBT in the type 99 entered service in 1999/2000
And their are 1000+ of them
Their kit is newer than ours . Not better .
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You said if they sank our carrier with their imaginary weapon of destruction, we would bitch out and fucking surrender
[/quote] I stand by it you would most likely seek alternative options . A sinking of a U.S. super carrier would be fucking huge and a great defeat to the U.S. .
It would limit US air strikes as you would lose 90 aircraft in a split second .
Any others would have to land on the other carrier . Over crowding it’s flight deck forcing It to move back to an airfield it could unload some of the jets .
The moment they sunk one they would be out for another of which they could because of the over crowding on the second carrier in the fleet it would be unable to launch air cover as quickly or at all depending on how many extra planes they would have too take on board .
The politicians would pull the plug on full scale war . I would suspect they would do a face saving counter attack on China then while it seems they have got even . Go for more peaceful methods .
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Or his predictions, like Baghdad never falling to coalition forces hours before it did.
[/quote] bit like the CIA then saying saddam could nuke the west in 30 minutes and that he had loss of nuclear weapons when he had fucking zero . Both sides say shitty stupid shit . Doesn’t make either side less dangerous
I’m sure the public would be behind it but the senate would shit themselves in fear of losing anymore carriers.
In the days of Reagan or Eisenhower I would agree with you that the U.S. would
Go back at them swinging fully but today’s politcians no fucking chance . All comes down to money for them and a £13bn carriers at the bottom of the sea along with billions more in planes and kit lost doesn’t make good for profit margins .
No see the link above. Their newest tank first showed off in 2014.
So you just proved me right. They have 8000+ tanks so that means those are even older than 2000, which means they could very well be too small.
Yeah the Japs did something similar. It was a shocking and great defeat. Boy did they regret it.
14,000 left.
Or one of the dozens of bases we have in the Pacific?!
Yeah i’m thinking we would keep going until they surrendered too us. If China attacked us then they would be out to invade our allies in the Pacific. There no other real reason.
The CIA were lying their asses off to get the public behind a war. Do you seriously think they believed Saddam had WMDs?
Yes just like they did when we were attacked at Pear harbor and lost most of our fleet. But we didn’t bitch out, and we’re talking about one carrier here. Sure it would be a terrible loss but nothing compared to an attack on a U.S territory along with an entire fleet going under.
With Obama in power, we would probably apologize to the Chinese. Completely depends who’s in power. If strong president was in office, we would make China pay dearly.
Yes money, which is a reason we would go after them. War makes arms dealers and other large companies that sell materials rich. A lot of people in Washington got rich off the war in Iraq through weapon sales, just imagine how much they would make off a war with China. Billions and Billions.
And since China’s weapon of doom is still a concept how are they taking down an entire carrier fleet by surprise?
It’s still in development . That’s their future MBT not their current one .
They have type 98’s also I believe but their main battle tank . by this I mean the one that makes up the majority of their tank force is the type 99 .
One on one with a challenger 2 or leopard 2 or Abrams i imagine it would be a heap of metal
In matter of seconds but on China’s main land they would hugely outnumber us so we would have issues
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Yeah the Japs did something similar. It was a shocking and great defeat. Boy did they regret it.
[/quote]as I said politcians in these days had a set of balls now they do not and you know it . Obama
For example would run for the hills .
Don’t you agree ? George w bush is likely your last president that would of hit back
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Sure it would be a terrible loss but nothing compared to an attack on a U.S territory along with an entire fleet going under.
[/quote]the carrier is the fleet . Lose the carriers and the fleet withdraws . End of .
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With Obama in power, we would probably apologize to the Chinese. Completely depends who’s in power. If strong president was in office, we would make China pay dearly.
[/quote] totally agree . But I can’t see any strong presidential candidates .
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And since China’s weapon of doom is still a concept how are they taking down an entire carrier fleet by surprise?
[/quote]same way they got a submarine to appear in the middle of US fleet undetected
Not in range for a jet returning from a patrol or operation . Would have to land on the second carrier which would then have too sail back .
Depending on the situation they would either withdraw the entire fleet until a second carrier comes to replace it (if you did hit back ) or if the situation is serious send the fleet back in with the remaining carrier once it was unloaded
